So, an American chap is going to skydive without a parachute

So, an American chap is going to skydive without a parachute

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anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 31st July 2016
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Nutter - but a very skilled one smile

Well done lad!

The Mad Monk

10,474 posts

118 months

Sunday 31st July 2016
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hornetrider said:
...live on the telly. No 'chute, no wingsuit, just dive onto a net the size of a football pitch.

http://www.people.com/article/luke-aikins-heaven-s...
What can possibly go wrong?

Turquoise

1,457 posts

98 months

Sunday 31st July 2016
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Rather closer the edge of the net than the centre too eek

numtumfutunch

4,728 posts

139 months

Sunday 31st July 2016
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Turquoise said:
Rather closer the edge of the net than the centre too eek
I thought so too!

And it was 100ft which is a bit smaller than a footy pitch

mouseymousey

2,641 posts

238 months

Sunday 31st July 2016
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Very impressive but I'm pretty sure he had a concealed parachute. He definitely does a practice touch where the pilot chute would be and also checks his emergency handles.

Doesn't detract from the fact that it was an awesome stunt though.

Randy Winkman

16,155 posts

190 months

Sunday 31st July 2016
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mouseymousey said:
Very impressive but I'm pretty sure he had a concealed parachute. He definitely does a practice touch where the pilot chute would be and also checks his emergency handles.

Doesn't detract from the fact that it was an awesome stunt though.
I'm not disputing what you say, but I wonder when he would use it? "Whoops, I'm just about to miss the net so I'll open my secret chute. Here goes ......

98elise

26,644 posts

162 months

Sunday 31st July 2016
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mouseymousey said:
Very impressive but I'm pretty sure he had a concealed parachute. He definitely does a practice touch where the pilot chute would be and also checks his emergency handles.

Doesn't detract from the fact that it was an awesome stunt though.
I'm have no experience at all, however it didn't look like he had a concealed chute. I would have thought the team that dropped with him were prepared to latch onto him if things were going wrong on the way down. I would have thought they pulled away once it was very certain he was going to hit the net.

If he was doing checks, could it just be what he's done on 1000's of other drops so its just second nature?

Sheetmaself

5,679 posts

199 months

Sunday 31st July 2016
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Whether he did or didn't wear a chute i have no idea,but i do feel it strange he left it open to people wondering. Surely a tight jump suit (as I geuss he couldnt do it shirtless due to altitude and temperature) would of proved no back up.

Unless he needed the resistance to temper his terminal velocity of course.

KTF

9,808 posts

151 months

Sunday 31st July 2016
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mouseymousey said:
Very impressive but I'm pretty sure he had a concealed parachute. He definitely does a practice touch where the pilot chute would be and also checks his emergency handles.

Doesn't detract from the fact that it was an awesome stunt though.
They are pretty bulky and he didn't appear to have one.

He had people following him down, one pulled at a higher altitude, one at a lower. After that he was on his own. I suspect he landed too far to the side of his intended target but he made it nonetheless. That must have got the pulse racing somewhat.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

240 months

Monday 1st August 2016
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Randy Winkman said:
mouseymousey said:
Very impressive but I'm pretty sure he had a concealed parachute. He definitely does a practice touch where the pilot chute would be and also checks his emergency handles.

Doesn't detract from the fact that it was an awesome stunt though.
I'm not disputing what you say, but I wonder when he would use it? "Whoops, I'm just about to miss the net so I'll open my secret chute. Here goes ......
Perhaps, and it's purely a flight of fantasy on my part, he had airbags in his suit?

Europa1

10,923 posts

189 months

Monday 1st August 2016
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mouseymousey said:
He definitely does a practice touch where the pilot chute would be and also checks his emergency handles.
Maybe he was just trying to push some poo back in?

amancalledrob

1,248 posts

135 months

Monday 1st August 2016
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KTF said:
Thanks for the calculations. I guess there is more give in the net otherwise he would black out when he hits it and experiences 10g which won't look good on TV?
It's a lot of g, but in my uneducated opinion it'd take more than 0.5 seconds for it to render someone unconscious

98elise

26,644 posts

162 months

Monday 1st August 2016
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amancalledrob said:
KTF said:
Thanks for the calculations. I guess there is more give in the net otherwise he would black out when he hits it and experiences 10g which won't look good on TV?
It's a lot of g, but in my uneducated opinion it'd take more than 0.5 seconds for it to render someone unconscious
Isn't high G only a problem if the blood is leaving the head (ie if you're upright or sitting). Falling onto his back with that mount of give in the net wouldn't cause him any problems.

amancalledrob

1,248 posts

135 months

Monday 1st August 2016
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98elise said:
amancalledrob said:
KTF said:
Thanks for the calculations. I guess there is more give in the net otherwise he would black out when he hits it and experiences 10g which won't look good on TV?
It's a lot of g, but in my uneducated opinion it'd take more than 0.5 seconds for it to render someone unconscious
Isn't high G only a problem if the blood is leaving the head (ie if you're upright or sitting). Falling onto his back with that mount of give in the net wouldn't cause him any problems.
That's a great point, I hadn't thought of that

Foliage

3,861 posts

123 months

Monday 1st August 2016
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mouseymousey said:
Very impressive but I'm pretty sure he had a concealed parachute. He definitely does a practice touch where the pilot chute would be and also checks his emergency handles.

Doesn't detract from the fact that it was an awesome stunt though.
Muscle memory,

Its more likely that the other jumpers would be equipped to grab him and tandem him down, perhaps even past the height of the net.

Gareth79

7,679 posts

247 months

Monday 1st August 2016
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Foliage said:
Muscle memory,

Its more likely that the other jumpers would be equipped to grab him and tandem him down, perhaps even past the height of the net.
IF he wore one (which I doubt) it would probably only be so that he could pull on his own if he realised very late he might miss, ie. lower than another skydiver could grab him and pull themselves.

I'd like to think that the full TV show had decent shots that show he wasn't wearing one. I guess he could have made a special rig with just a main canopy packed flat, and a suit with tearaway pieces that the pilot chute could push out, but it would be very risky both in terms of operation and it being discovered. I'm sure the main reason for the baggy suit was to slow his fall rate.

popeyewhite

19,931 posts

121 months

Monday 1st August 2016
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Foliage said:
Muscle memory,
Doesn't exist. However if you practice something over and over and over again people may do it without thinking - in other words a simple reaction - especially when placed in the the situation where that specific action is normally required - Who hasn't stamped on the brake pedal when a front seat passenger in a mate's car? biggrin

Foliage said:
Its more likely that the other jumpers would be equipped to grab him and tandem him down, perhaps even past the height of the net.
I'd have thought so too.



audidoody

8,597 posts

257 months

Monday 1st August 2016
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They threw a laser-guided rubber dummy out of the plane.

When it hit net it was quickly grabbed and the chap emerged from a hole dug under the net.

Obvious innit?

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

232 months

Monday 1st August 2016
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98elise said:
mouseymousey said:
Very impressive but I'm pretty sure he had a concealed parachute. He definitely does a practice touch where the pilot chute would be and also checks his emergency handles.

Doesn't detract from the fact that it was an awesome stunt though.
I'm have no experience at all, however it didn't look like he had a concealed chute. I would have thought the team that dropped with him were prepared to latch onto him if things were going wrong on the way down. I would have thought they pulled away once it was very certain he was going to hit the net.

If he was doing checks, could it just be what he's done on 1000's of other drops so its just second nature?
They pulled their chutes at 5,000ft. That is a mile up over a net that would look like a postage stamp. I think that is just when they deployed for safety, hitting that spot at 5,000ft is still an uncertain thing imo. As I said earlier, driving to work is enough danger for me. smile

wc98

10,412 posts

141 months

Monday 1st August 2016
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Gareth79 said:
IF he wore one (which I doubt) it would probably only be so that he could pull on his own if he realised very late he might miss, ie. lower than another skydiver could grab him and pull themselves.

I'd like to think that the full TV show had decent shots that show he wasn't wearing one. I guess he could have made a special rig with just a main canopy packed flat, and a suit with tearaway pieces that the pilot chute could push out, but it would be very risky both in terms of operation and it being discovered. I'm sure the main reason for the baggy suit was to slow his fall rate.
it looked like he was wearing a one piece tracking suit . advantage being extra manouevrablity allowing him to make directional adjustments far quicker than a basic jump suit. fantastic achievement ,but nowhere near the level of these guys.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C_jPcUkVrM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GASFa7rkLtM