Discussion
recycled said:
Has anyone blamed the state of the railways on Brexit yet?
The Green Party woman on Any Ansswers this afternoon seemed to be having a go at that. The 50p we were getting back on every pound we sent to Brussels was carefully targetted to improive transport in the south west apparently...///ajd said:
I was thinking of a 335d next - recently they were £32k new for a touring on broadspeed with prof nav, but fear those days are long over.
How 'recently' is recently?
You'd be hard pushed to see change from 41K and that's without prof nav.
I'd buy a 330D and get it remapped
It would outrun a boggo 335D, out perform a M3/4 and spin the earth quicker on it's axis getting the UK out of it's imaginary recession quicker.
Win all around
I haven't yet read the whole thread but got up to the post about the guys fil who's furniture buisness literally stopped on the 24th
I wonder if I a lot of what's going on now in smaller buisness is due to the area they are from. Perception of trouble ahead.
For example I'm in essex where almost everyone voted out, as such I hear no bad things locally, I'm a trade and the phone is actually ringing more than usual. My wife for example thinks it's all over, when I tell her of potential trouble she looks at me like I'm smoking crack.
I wonder if smaller buisness which is struggling is in areas which were mainly in voters and as such worried about the future.
I'm an out and actually feel fairly confident. Just put our house up for sale (for too much money because everything else is too much iykwim) but we have had 6 viewings in 4 days. Only one said it was too much. A couple didn't like the place, a couple I'm waiting to hear what their thoughts are but assuming they won't offer.
As someone else said, good places going quick. Other stuff is too much money and not shifting.
I wonder if I a lot of what's going on now in smaller buisness is due to the area they are from. Perception of trouble ahead.
For example I'm in essex where almost everyone voted out, as such I hear no bad things locally, I'm a trade and the phone is actually ringing more than usual. My wife for example thinks it's all over, when I tell her of potential trouble she looks at me like I'm smoking crack.
I wonder if smaller buisness which is struggling is in areas which were mainly in voters and as such worried about the future.
I'm an out and actually feel fairly confident. Just put our house up for sale (for too much money because everything else is too much iykwim) but we have had 6 viewings in 4 days. Only one said it was too much. A couple didn't like the place, a couple I'm waiting to hear what their thoughts are but assuming they won't offer.
As someone else said, good places going quick. Other stuff is too much money and not shifting.
RYH64E said:
eatcustard said:
2 houses on my estate came up for sale both sold within 3 days
Both houses were over 300K each
Brexit must be doing well then
They would sell very quickly where I live at those prices, the sellers wouldn't happy though as it would be about a third of the pre-Brexit values...Both houses were over 300K each
Brexit must be doing well then
m3jappa said:
I haven't yet read the whole thread but got up to the post about the guys fil who's furniture buisness literally stopped on the 24th
I wonder if I a lot of what's going on now in smaller buisness is due to the area they are from. Perception of trouble ahead.
For example I'm in essex where almost everyone voted out, as such I hear no bad things locally, I'm a trade and the phone is actually ringing more than usual. My wife for example thinks it's all over, when I tell her of potential trouble she looks at me like I'm smoking crack.
I wonder if smaller buisness which is struggling is in areas which were mainly in voters and as such worried about the future.
I'm an out and actually feel fairly confident. Just put our house up for sale (for too much money because everything else is too much iykwim) but we have had 6 viewings in 4 days. Only one said it was too much. A couple didn't like the place, a couple I'm waiting to hear what their thoughts are but assuming they won't offer.
As someone else said, good places going quick. Other stuff is too much money and not shifting.
This 100% companies that don't move with the times will fail companies failed during the boom years that were priced out of the market by stronger companies. People were priced out of the housing market by greed and by people thinking of houses as investments rather than just a home. I wonder if I a lot of what's going on now in smaller buisness is due to the area they are from. Perception of trouble ahead.
For example I'm in essex where almost everyone voted out, as such I hear no bad things locally, I'm a trade and the phone is actually ringing more than usual. My wife for example thinks it's all over, when I tell her of potential trouble she looks at me like I'm smoking crack.
I wonder if smaller buisness which is struggling is in areas which were mainly in voters and as such worried about the future.
I'm an out and actually feel fairly confident. Just put our house up for sale (for too much money because everything else is too much iykwim) but we have had 6 viewings in 4 days. Only one said it was too much. A couple didn't like the place, a couple I'm waiting to hear what their thoughts are but assuming they won't offer.
As someone else said, good places going quick. Other stuff is too much money and not shifting.
People have suffered hard during the boom years by greed of others.
The business that adapt are the ones that survive if they don't and the market drops for whatever reason its either sell out or change. Brexit or no brexit we have lost and gained jobs while in the eu and we do so while out of the eu.
But both boeing and avon said before the vote that they invest in the country and airbus isn't leaving the uk any time soon like the rest.
don'tbesilly said:
///ajd said:
I was thinking of a 335d next - recently they were £32k new for a touring on broadspeed with prof nav, but fear those days are long over.
How 'recently' is recently?
You'd be hard pushed to see change from 41K and that's without prof nav.
I'd buy a 330D and get it remapped
It would outrun a boggo 335D, out perform a M3/4 and spin the earth quicker on it's axis getting the UK out of it's imaginary recession quicker.
Win all around
M3 tempting but still £££ and I really need a touring.
Might still look go for a used E63. Armageddon is around the corner so why not
AJS- said:
The Green Party woman on Any Ansswers this afternoon seemed to be having a go at that. The 50p we were getting back on every pound we sent to Brussels was carefully targetted to improive transport in the south west apparently...
Ironically, the main reason rail privatisation was such a shambles - the splitting of train operators from infrastructure with consequent disastrous effects on safety - was the result of EU Directive 91/440. The government of the day was not allowed to use any other model.230TE said:
AJS- said:
The Green Party woman on Any Ansswers this afternoon seemed to be having a go at that. The 50p we were getting back on every pound we sent to Brussels was carefully targetted to improive transport in the south west apparently...
Ironically, the main reason rail privatisation was such a shambles - the splitting of train operators from infrastructure with consequent disastrous effects on safety - was the result of EU Directive 91/440. The government of the day was not allowed to use any other model.MG CHRIS said:
RYH64E said:
eatcustard said:
2 houses on my estate came up for sale both sold within 3 days
Both houses were over 300K each
Brexit must be doing well then
They would sell very quickly where I live at those prices, the sellers wouldn't happy though as it would be about a third of the pre-Brexit values...Both houses were over 300K each
Brexit must be doing well then
Tampon said:
Well overnight my father furniture business has stopped, literally no one came into the shops for the first couple of weeks after Brexit. People have started trickling in but not buying. That is very real effect, turnover from £4-8k a week to zero, the night after Brexit. Summer sale season as well, he takes a third of his annual turnover now, currently taking nothing.
His Italian suppliers have upped their prices 21% the week after, his costs in relation to his French Suppliers have gone up because of the Euro. This is eating into his margins if he does sell anything. Now at a age where he doesn;t fancy riding out another ressesion (it will be his 3rd now) and is thinking of packing it all in. Very sad.
Our house was put on the market the week after Brexit, previous weeks a house would pop up on our street (cheapest houses in the area, first time buyer with family heaven, either us or a flat) and would sell within days, normally before the sign was up. Really had to wait for something to pop up and pounce.
Now there are 4 houses on our street up for sale at the same time, we have had 22 viewings, 4 second viewing, 2 third viewings with parents. Literally everybody is saying "we are going to wait to see what happens with Brexit before putting in a offer". Houses that need to sell have dropped £40k well over 10%, and there is a 70K spread on the prices of these houses (we are at the bottom end), nothing is moving. That is a very real effect of Brexit.
We have lost out on a house we want to move to because of this. Estate agents down on the coast have said that seller aren't putting houses on the market round here due to the vote as they don't want their house to sit on the market or take a hit on the price. That just leaves the s
t that people need to sell on the market.
Brixit vote does have some very real effects to very real people. We are currently feeling it very much.
Hopefully in time there will be some benefit of it, right now we are cursing it.
Just wondering what type of furniture your dad sells? You mentioned the options are French, Italian and Chinese. I am not certain that they are the only options.His Italian suppliers have upped their prices 21% the week after, his costs in relation to his French Suppliers have gone up because of the Euro. This is eating into his margins if he does sell anything. Now at a age where he doesn;t fancy riding out another ressesion (it will be his 3rd now) and is thinking of packing it all in. Very sad.
Our house was put on the market the week after Brexit, previous weeks a house would pop up on our street (cheapest houses in the area, first time buyer with family heaven, either us or a flat) and would sell within days, normally before the sign was up. Really had to wait for something to pop up and pounce.
Now there are 4 houses on our street up for sale at the same time, we have had 22 viewings, 4 second viewing, 2 third viewings with parents. Literally everybody is saying "we are going to wait to see what happens with Brexit before putting in a offer". Houses that need to sell have dropped £40k well over 10%, and there is a 70K spread on the prices of these houses (we are at the bottom end), nothing is moving. That is a very real effect of Brexit.
We have lost out on a house we want to move to because of this. Estate agents down on the coast have said that seller aren't putting houses on the market round here due to the vote as they don't want their house to sit on the market or take a hit on the price. That just leaves the s
t that people need to sell on the market.Brixit vote does have some very real effects to very real people. We are currently feeling it very much.
Hopefully in time there will be some benefit of it, right now we are cursing it.
Edited by Tampon on Saturday 30th July 08:32
anonymous said:
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Antiques, mainstream furniture suites. Bedroom, dining with the odd salvage speciality or house clearance trinket Jewels etc.Modern revamp. Dining specialalist, oak, glass etc. Soft furnishings, sofas, chairs as well as accessories. Wall hangings, cushions mirrors etc
Bedroom suites also offered as a side matching range.
ALongside this, all the dressing for the furniture shown in shops, table hardware etc.
Trying some medium range art to fill the walls (this seems to have been a life life).
In you uncertainy, Which ones would recommend?
The polish ones are mainly manufacturers for the Italian brands. The Spanish ones we have seen have been no exsistant. The dutch exporters tend to be higher priced and similar cost wise to British bespoke designers plus shipping that that great exchange rate we have right now.
American designers in the middle ground dont have a presence in the European market.
Please try to remember that you are easily making comments from a armchair to people who have done this or been around it for years/ lifetime, trying to find a way out. Of course I don't expect anyone here to suggest a idea that would save the business. I posted here to help people seemingly entrenched in a view of Brexit from a certain view point understand the realities of the other side in the real world in real situations.
Take it on board or dont, it is still happening.
anonymous said:
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Great, one year short of me then. Your own business ? or do you work for a large independent like Chaplins? or are you part of a larger chain like Halo? Manufacturer, designer or agent?We will have bumped into each other at many of the shows at Birmingham, Exel, Leipgiz, Frankfurt and Milan. I am thinking of going to Bife-Sim on the 17th to help dad out, if your going maybe you can let us buy you a coffee and pick your brains?
Edited by Tampon on Monday 1st August 00:11
Tampon said:
Great, one year short of me then. Your own business ? or do you work for a large independent like Chaplins? or are you part of a larger chain like Halo? Manufacturer, designer or agent?
We will have bumped into each other at many of the shows at Birmingham, Exel, Leipgiz, Frankfurt and Milan. I am thinking of going to Bife-Sim on the 17th to help dad out, if your going maybe you can let us buy you a coffee and pick your brains?
Well I am glad that you are looking further afield in Romania. I was going to suggest Poland or other non Euro European sources if it was the exchange rate killing your business. We've manufactured bespoke product in Poland and I know UK retailers who market Polish produced upholstered items. It was your comment that it was France, Italy or China that shocked me. Yes many of the established luxury brands are mainly French and Italian (and German and Swedish and British) but if you are selling your 'own' product and are not sourcing it from a wholesaler like Halo then you can explore other options.We will have bumped into each other at many of the shows at Birmingham, Exel, Leipgiz, Frankfurt and Milan. I am thinking of going to Bife-Sim on the 17th to help dad out, if your going maybe you can let us buy you a coffee and pick your brains?
Edited by Tampon on Monday 1st August 00:11
///ajd said:
eg Jags - and as an example I recall around 50% of production goes into the EU.
You quoted Jaguar on a different thread a while ago, I corrected you and you ignored the correction.Sales to Europe last year by JLR were 22.6%. That's Europe, not the EU.
UK was 20.7%, US was 19.3% and China was 19%. Rest of the World was 18.4%
So most JLR cars are exported and most go to none EU countries, by quite some margin. In fact, JLR sell pretty much as many cars in the UK as they do in the massive EU Market.
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