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Gogoplata said:
walm said:
alfie2244 said:
Gogoplata said:
BlackLabel said:
Or not as an article linked in the comments suggests: 
http://this-is-sunderland.co.uk/guardian-article-2...
Just when I thought I could trust everything the media writes!
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/dec...
He woke up the morning after the vote and found the area had a new optimistic "strangely buoyant" atmosphere and he decided that this is wrong and I must get out...
Extra Grauniad points for shoe horning into the article the phrase "economic migrants if you will" as a way to point out and reinforce the mantra that this area has always had migrants and Brexit is bad and if you voted for brexit your against migrants and you are not getting any Christmas presents you naughty boy.
Is there a worse rag than the Graun ? it's worse than the Mail by a long shot because its raddled with damp self righteousness that is hard to ignore, at least with the ultra-Right Mail you can laugh and point and forget, the Graun just rages me.
Apparantly Brexit is going to cause a "human rights crisis" which could leave us all with "a similar level of legal protection to people in Belarus, a dictatorship".
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com...
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com...
BlackLabel said:
Apparantly Brexit is going to cause a "human rights crisis" which could leave us all with "a similar level of legal protection to people in Belarus, a dictatorship".
Risible. What they really mean is they they have fewer places to peddle their shyster nonsense and fewer 'customers' - if immigration control is tightened in the way Brexit promises - to rope into their schemes.
jsf said:
That is precisely what the UK has been saying to the EU, sort out a deal that's sensible or the EU is going to lose it's partner in fighting crime. London is a fantastic place to launder money, that will only get worse (depending on your perspective) if the EU play silly buggers.
So are you really trying to suggest the UK will tolerate money laundering if we do not get a good brexit deal? You de realise we are signatories to a number of treaties under which we cannot do that?Mrr T said:
jsf said:
That is precisely what the UK has been saying to the EU, sort out a deal that's sensible or the EU is going to lose it's partner in fighting crime. London is a fantastic place to launder money, that will only get worse (depending on your perspective) if the EU play silly buggers.
So are you really trying to suggest the UK will tolerate money laundering if we do not get a good brexit deal? You de realise we are signatories to a number of treaties under which we cannot do that?You would have to be utterly naive to believe that there isn't an easy system in place in London that allows money laundering on an industrial scale, just look at the number of Russians that live in London. That situation is only going to get worse (depending on your perspective) if the ability of the law enforcement groups lose some of their tools.
Money laundering? Small potatoes.
Brexit's gonna kill the white Rhino...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/05/brex...
Brexit's gonna kill the white Rhino...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/05/brex...
jsf said:
Mrr T said:
jsf said:
That is precisely what the UK has been saying to the EU, sort out a deal that's sensible or the EU is going to lose it's partner in fighting crime. London is a fantastic place to launder money, that will only get worse (depending on your perspective) if the EU play silly buggers.
So are you really trying to suggest the UK will tolerate money laundering if we do not get a good brexit deal? You de realise we are signatories to a number of treaties under which we cannot do that?You would have to be utterly naive to believe that there isn't an easy system in place in London that allows money laundering on an industrial scale, just look at the number of Russians that live in London. That situation is only going to get worse (depending on your perspective) if the ability of the law enforcement groups lose some of their tools.
t. No matter what happens in the brexit negotiations cooperation between EU countries and the UK on financial crime will be fully maintained. This is a requirement of treaty’s we are all party to. It’s not a negotiating point it’s what will happen. It will have no effect on any of the 1,000’s of other things that need to be agree for brexit. It’s a bit like TM’s suggestion the rEU must give us a good deal on brexit or we will not cooperate on security matters.
Truly deluded.
As is your idea money laundering is easy.
Ridgemont said:
Money laundering? Small potatoes.
Brexit's gonna kill the white Rhino...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/05/brex...
Brexit's gonna kill the white Rhino...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/05/brex...
Wow! Desperate or what!?
Mrr T said:
jsf said:
Mrr T said:
jsf said:
That is precisely what the UK has been saying to the EU, sort out a deal that's sensible or the EU is going to lose it's partner in fighting crime. London is a fantastic place to launder money, that will only get worse (depending on your perspective) if the EU play silly buggers.
So are you really trying to suggest the UK will tolerate money laundering if we do not get a good brexit deal? You de realise we are signatories to a number of treaties under which we cannot do that?You would have to be utterly naive to believe that there isn't an easy system in place in London that allows money laundering on an industrial scale, just look at the number of Russians that live in London. That situation is only going to get worse (depending on your perspective) if the ability of the law enforcement groups lose some of their tools.
t. No matter what happens in the brexit negotiations cooperation between EU countries and the UK on financial crime will be fully maintained. This is a requirement of treaty’s we are all party to. It’s not a negotiating point it’s what will happen. It will have no effect on any of the 1,000’s of other things that need to be agree for brexit. It’s a bit like TM’s suggestion the rEU must give us a good deal on brexit or we will not cooperate on security matters.
Truly deluded.
As is your idea money laundering is easy.
Tampon said:
Hopefully it is short term, but Dad won't last long, he will probably be fine, he has run his business for 30 odd years and has a nice house he can downsize and commercial property he can sell but the people he will let go might find it particularly tough if others are doing the same.
I realise this post is a few months old but if he's been in business 30 years presumably this won't be the first time he's faced something like this that causes a massive dip in consumer spending on his products? As a country the UK has faced recession, currency devaluation etc on and off for all that time, the time round 2006 was quite bad for a lot of industries dealing in non-essentials - IMO this just goes to show how essential it is to have a diverse portfolio of interests so if one business slows down there are other revenue streams to balance the load. If one has a profitable business for a couple of decades one owes it to oneself to invest reasonable proportions of the surplus elsewhere I reckon.
jsf said:
Money laundering is easy, very very easy.
Depends what you mean by money laundering.If you mean the conversion of money obtained from illegal activities into fund which appear to be legitimate. This is normally a 3 stage process, placement, layering and integration. Since a number of high profile cases and eye watering fines. This is now very difficult. Colleague who are closer to this than I am, say the rules are now so strict the biggest complains are from legitimate customers who are being denied access to legitimate funds.
If by money laundering you mean washing money, typically involving leaving a note or two, in the pocket of your jeans when you put them in the washing machine. Then I would agree it’s quite easy. In my experience it becoming rarer because of contactless.
Mrr T said:
Depends what you mean by money laundering.
If you mean the conversion of money obtained from illegal activities into fund which appear to be legitimate. This is normally a 3 stage process, placement, layering and integration. Since a number of high profile cases and eye watering fines. This is now very difficult. Colleague who are closer to this than I am, say the rules are now so strict the biggest complains are from legitimate customers who are being denied access to legitimate funds.
If by money laundering you mean washing money, typically involving leaving a note or two, in the pocket of your jeans when you put them in the washing machine. Then I would agree it’s quite easy. In my experience it becoming rarer because of contactless.
If you mean the conversion of money obtained from illegal activities into fund which appear to be legitimate. This is normally a 3 stage process, placement, layering and integration. Since a number of high profile cases and eye watering fines. This is now very difficult. Colleague who are closer to this than I am, say the rules are now so strict the biggest complains are from legitimate customers who are being denied access to legitimate funds.
If by money laundering you mean washing money, typically involving leaving a note or two, in the pocket of your jeans when you put them in the washing machine. Then I would agree it’s quite easy. In my experience it becoming rarer because of contactless.
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