Pupils given detention because parents can't afford.....

[surveyor]

Countdown said:

Ms Birbalsingh has many admirers, people such as Toby Young and Michael Gove

http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/03/i-have-seen-cla...

ian in lancs said:

In my experience, teachers, including lecturers, fall into three categories; the inspired educators with a calling that still I respect and admire and had a life changing influence, the low achievers that wouldn't amount to much in the real word and a host of mediocre academics that drift into education as an easy option. Unfortunately the latter two dominate the education system in the UK and result in bks like this letter. My wife and I have dealings with a couple of prestige universities and a three local colleges - I never cease to be amazed with the petty politics and administrative incompetence that would never be tolerated in business.

Edited by ian in lancs on Saturday 30th July 08:27

I have to say your experience of teachers is different to mine. I've worked as an FD in setting up 2 Academies. The one thing that struck me was how dedicated the teachers were. It's not a role that you go into for money, there were at least 3 people I knew who had given up high-paid jobs in banking and IT to retrain as Teachers. The reason they did it was because they got far more job satisfaction in teaching. they cared about the kids, they wanted to help them get better qualifications and hopefully have more fulfilling lives. Both schools were inner city "failing" schools, kids from single parent families, who were lucky if their parents woke them up, got them changed into school uniform and fed them a decent breakfast before they sent them to school. It's quite a challenging and often scary environment to have to teach in. People (IME) don't "drift" into it because they're low achievers or whatever.

The fact that Gove is an admirer says it all......

[Derek Smith]

surveyor said:

Countdown said:

Ms Birbalsingh has many admirers, people such as Toby Young and Michael Gove

http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/03/i-have-seen-cla...

ian in lancs said:

In my experience, teachers, including lecturers, fall into three categories; the inspired educators with a calling that still I respect and admire and had a life changing influence, the low achievers that wouldn't amount to much in the real word and a host of mediocre academics that drift into education as an easy option. Unfortunately the latter two dominate the education system in the UK and result in bks like this letter. My wife and I have dealings with a couple of prestige universities and a three local colleges - I never cease to be amazed with the petty politics and administrative incompetence that would never be tolerated in business.

Edited by ian in lancs on Saturday 30th July 08:27

I have to say your experience of teachers is different to mine. I've worked as an FD in setting up 2 Academies. The one thing that struck me was how dedicated the teachers were. It's not a role that you go into for money, there were at least 3 people I knew who had given up high-paid jobs in banking and IT to retrain as Teachers. The reason they did it was because they got far more job satisfaction in teaching. they cared about the kids, they wanted to help them get better qualifications and hopefully have more fulfilling lives. Both schools were inner city "failing" schools, kids from single parent families, who were lucky if their parents woke them up, got them changed into school uniform and fed them a decent breakfast before they sent them to school. It's quite a challenging and often scary environment to have to teach in. People (IME) don't "drift" into it because they're low achievers or whatever.

The fact that Gove is an admirer says it all......

All my four kids went to a local school. I'd put the ratio of dedicated to poor to be around 9:1. There was a group of timeservers who did enough and occasionally a bit more and another where they did their best but it wasn't really good enough. Together with the poor I'd put that lot at below 1/3rd.

On parents' evening the teachers would be informed, and helpful as well.

Gove being an admirer of this deluded self-publicist says it all to me as well, but all about Gove as well.

[Turquoise]

Lessons are silent.
Class changeovers and corridors are silent.
And lunchtime detention, that's silent.

So a child that gets a detention may not actually speak to another child for the entire day?!?

I'm sorry but WTF?

[greygoose]

Turquoise said:

Lessons are silent.
Class changeovers and corridors are silent.
And lunchtime detention, that's silent.

So a child that gets a detention may not actually speak to another child for the entire day?!?

I'm sorry but WTF?

Perhaps it is a Trappist school?!

[zarjaz1991]

Turquoise said:

Lessons are silent.
Class changeovers and corridors are silent.
And lunchtime detention, that's silent.

So a child that gets a detention may not actually speak to another child for the entire day?!?

I'm sorry but WTF?

As I said earlier, it's child abuse.

The owners should be arrested.

They won't be though, because in the UK we think this is an acceptable way to treat our children.

Imagine doing this to an adult at work.....wouldn't stand up for five minutes. Yet it's ok to do it to children.

We haven't really moved on far from allowing adults to hit children with a wooden stick.