Iplayer to need TV licence from 1/9/2016 - full fee required

[Cotty]

eldar said:

You mean that if you didn't need a licence would you still buy one?

That’s exactly what he means. Some people are suggesting that if you do not watch TV you should still pay the TV licence as its “only” £12 a month.

Similarly I don’t require a rod licence as I don’t fish. If I start fishing ill get a licence, that is how it is supposed to work. The Environment Agency don’t come knocking on my door to check if I have any fishing rods.

[ashleyman]

Can someone tell me the answer to this:

If I DON'T have a TV license, is it ok to watch ITV, 4OD and 5 content online so long as it is not live?
We don't have any means of receiving live tv and do not have iPlayer installed on any of our devices.

[technodup]

Cotty said:

That’s exactly what he means. Some people are suggesting that if you do not watch TV you should still pay the TV licence as its “only” £12 a month.

Similarly I don’t require a rod licence as I don’t fish. If I start fishing ill get a licence, that is how it is supposed to work. The Environment Agency don’t come knocking on my door to check if I have any fishing rods.

I'm sure Edinburgher has all the licences just to be safe, dog licence, TV licence, fishing licence, waste licence etc. After all they're only £100 a year so why wouldn't anyone want the full set?

Top Trumps (Licence Edition) is an entertainment gap waiting to be filled.

[ashleyman]

pgh said:

ashleyman said:

Can someone tell me the answer to this:

If I DON'T have a TV license, is it ok to watch ITV, 4OD and 5 content online so long as it is not live?
We don't have any means of receiving live tv and do not have iPlayer installed on any of our devices.

Yes, completely fine.

Watching nothing broadcast and since the law changed, watching no BBC catchup content = no licence required.

Great information resource here: http://tv-licensing.blogspot.co.uk/p/free-book.htm...

Awesome! Thanks so much.

[All that jazz]

Edinburger said:

You lot are unbelievable. All that say £12 per month?!

It annoys me that my taxes pay for things I don't use but hey-ho.

Idiot.

[Countdown]

pgh said:

Edinburger said:

You lot are unbelievable. All that say £12 per month?!

It annoys me that my taxes pay for things I don't use but hey-ho.

Or alternatively, quite legitimately not spending £12 month because we never consume any BBC content. In parallel, find the behavior of the BBC, their 'stars' and their method of revenue collection increasingly abhorrent.
Would feel exactly the same about any other organisation that adopts the guilty until proven innocent model that the BBC and Capita operate.

If "people don't consume any BBC content" then why are the extensive debate about possible loopholes in the legislation?

[Edinburger]

amusingduck said:

Edinburger said:

You lot are unbelievable. All that say £12 per month?!

It annoys me that my taxes pay for things I don't use but hey-ho.

If you woke up tomorrow and decided you were no longer interested in consuming live TV, on-demand BBC content, etc, would you continue paying for a TV licence?

Yes - on the basis it's an irrelevant sum and excellent value.

I don't understand how anyone can live and consume zero BBC content.

And before you start, I'd just read people sharing how to charge their laptops and watch BBC on battery power to evade the licence fee. It's pathetic.

[Edinburger]

Cotty said:

amusingduck said:

If you woke up tomorrow and decided you were no longer interested in consuming live TV, on-demand BBC content, etc, would you continue paying for a TV licence?

Bet you won't get an answer to that,

Wrong.

[Edinburger]

ashleyman said:

Can someone tell me the answer to this:

If I DON'T have a TV license, is it ok to watch ITV, 4OD and 5 content online so long as it is not live?
We don't have any means of receiving live tv and do not have iPlayer installed on any of our devices.

Do you listen to BBC radio? Do you visit BBC websites? Do you use any other BBC services?

If so, why should I pay for you?

If not, I don't believe you.

[Edinburger]

technodup said:

'm sure Edinburgher has all the licences just to be safe, dog licence, TV licence, fishing licence, waste licence etc. After all they're only £100 a year so why wouldn't anyone want the full set?

Top Trumps (Licence Edition) is an entertainment gap waiting to be filled.

Aye, very good.

Do you avoid council tax, road tax, and everything else too?

[Edinburger]

All that jazz said:

Edinburger said:

You lot are unbelievable. All that say £12 per month?!

It annoys me that my taxes pay for things I don't use but hey-ho.

Idiot.

How do you have time to post that?

Don't you need to charge your laptop wearing stonewashed blue jeans from a westerly solar panel to an even numbered battery charge level with the screen facing north west because "it's free" if you do?!

And you're calling me an idiot?

[FiF]

Surely the basic point is that if someone genuinely doesn't do anything which requires them to hold a TV licence then good luck to them, get on with it.

In the other hand people who do, and are quite happy to pay the licence fee shouldn't receive the sort of condescending comments that have been seen on this thread.

In my experience if you tell TV licencing that you don't need a licence they leave you alone. You get a reminder every so often, it wasn't every month as some claim, maybe once a year? If you don't reply then the frequency increases.

[technodup]

Countdown said:

If "people don't consume any BBC content" then why are the extensive debate about possible loopholes in the legislation?

Because it's got fk all to do with 'BBC content'. A licence is required to legally watch ANY live TV (and now iPLayer), BBC or not. But BBC get the cash.

They rip the piss. They can't complain when others rip it right back.

[Cotty]

Edinburger said:

Do you listen to BBC radio? Do you visit BBC websites? Do you use any other BBC services?

If so, why should I pay for you?

[/]/If not, I don't believe you.[/b]

Do you realise how much you sound like the BBC.

"we don't believe you, we want to come round your house and check" and what are they going to check? Me sitting in a chair not watching TV?

[ashleyman]

Edinburger said:

ashleyman said:

Can someone tell me the answer to this:

If I DON'T have a TV license, is it ok to watch ITV, 4OD and 5 content online so long as it is not live?
We don't have any means of receiving live tv and do not have iPlayer installed on any of our devices.

Do you listen to BBC radio? Do you visit BBC websites? Do you use any other BBC services?

If so, why should I pay for you?

If not, I don't believe you.

Do I listen to BBC radio? Not at home, no. I use Apple Music. In the car I tend to listen to Kiss, Capital or Apple Music.

Do I visit the BBC website? I just checked my search history and the last time I visited bbc.co.uk was 19 May 2016 which was to read about license changes.

Do I use any other BBC services? Not that I know of, no.

As far as I am aware though, I don't need a TV license to listen to BBC radio in the car, view the BBC website or use any other BBC service. Unless you can tell me where I am mistaken and then I'll buy a license if required to do so.

This is straight from the TV licensing web page:

Think you don’t need a TV Licence?

No TV and not using a computer, laptop, phone or other device to watch live TV on any channel or any BBC programmes on iPlayer?

Edited by ashleyman on Friday 30th September 17:42

[amusingduck]

Edinburger said:

amusingduck said:

Edinburger said:

You lot are unbelievable. All that say £12 per month?!

It annoys me that my taxes pay for things I don't use but hey-ho.

If you woke up tomorrow and decided you were no longer interested in consuming live TV, on-demand BBC content, etc, would you continue paying for a TV licence?

Yes - on the basis it's an irrelevant sum and excellent value.

I don't understand how anyone can live and consume zero BBC content.

And before you start, I'd just read people sharing how to charge their laptops and watch BBC on battery power to evade the licence fee. It's pathetic.

Paying for something you won't use? Clearly our definitions of "excellent value" differ drastically.

How can people live without the BBC? The rest of the world seem to be coping alright

Edited by amusingduck on Friday 30th September 17:45

[All that jazz]

amusingduck said:

Edinburger said:

amusingduck said:

Edinburger said:

You lot are unbelievable. All that say £12 per month?!

It annoys me that my taxes pay for things I don't use but hey-ho.

If you woke up tomorrow and decided you were no longer interested in consuming live TV, on-demand BBC content, etc, would you continue paying for a TV licence?

Yes - on the basis it's an irrelevant sum and excellent value.

I don't understand how anyone can live and consume zero BBC content.

And before you start, I'd just read people sharing how to charge their laptops and watch BBC on battery power to evade the licence fee. It's pathetic.

Paying for something you won't use? Clearly our definitions of "excellent value" differ drastically.

Indeed. A bell end of epic propoptions.

[technodup]

Edinburger said:

Aye, very good.

Do you avoid council tax, road tax, and everything else too?

I'll tell you what I did do today, watched (some of) last night's Question Time on Youtube.

Some naughty boy posted it. I watched it. Am I a criminal? Was the poster? Is Youtube? Do I care?

Passwording the iPlayer is yet another pointless exercise, if they can't stop people sharing their stuff elsewhere (which they clearly can't).

Home taping didn't kill music. Harry Potter being passed around school playgrounds like a scudbook didn't stop JK Rowling becoming a multimillionaire. The BBC on sharing sites? They'd better get used to it.

[All that jazz]

technodup said:

The BBC on sharing sites? They'd better get used to it.

[chrispmartha]

amusingduck said:

How can people live without the BBC? The rest of the world seem to be coping alright

Edited by amusingduck on Friday 30th September 17:45

And quite al lot of the rest of the world has to pay a license fee, without getting anything as good as the BBC in return.