Iplayer to need TV licence from 1/9/2016 - full fee required
Discussion
AJL308 said:
technodup said:
FredClogs said:
The TVL people don't need to prove your guilt they just need to prosecute you and provide the evidence.
Yes, of someone watching live TV.FredClogs said:
200,000 prosecutions in 2012/2013, over 3500 a week - do you really think anyone is going to take the time to listen to your bull s
t theoretical excuses.
I'm not sure I believe the numbers tbh.t theoretical excuses. It was reported just the other day there were 15 in Scotland last year. 15.
Regarding possession of a TV needing a licence; I'm stunned that anyone still thinks this is the case.
Say nothing, sign nothing.
Welshbeef said:
I've asked lots of times on here about this legal ability to stream pay TV for free - no one has given instructions on how his is done. We want to share this info to Martin Lewis Money saving expert to save many people lots of money legally.
Why will noone here - who have already stated they do stream and watch all the stuff I watch & pay for - post up about how you do it.
I don't know how you can get to see a film before its gone on DVD /blue ray release - for free. Simply how is that possible? Surely if everyone did that no one would make any films ? Is that the reason there is no one confirming how it's done - or is there a nudge nudge wink wink rolled up trouser leg initiation/ or there is no fight club there is no fight club you will not talk about fight club?
Why would those that utilise the streams want them shared on Martin Lewis' website? They have nothing to gain from helping you and will probably miss out because of extreme demand on the already restricted resources available to the streaming community.Why will noone here - who have already stated they do stream and watch all the stuff I watch & pay for - post up about how you do it.
I don't know how you can get to see a film before its gone on DVD /blue ray release - for free. Simply how is that possible? Surely if everyone did that no one would make any films ? Is that the reason there is no one confirming how it's done - or is there a nudge nudge wink wink rolled up trouser leg initiation/ or there is no fight club there is no fight club you will not talk about fight club?
Secondly, read this. https://www.engadget.com/2016/02/14/kodi-takes-the...
ashleyman said:
Why would those that utilise the streams want them shared on Martin Lewis' website? They have nothing to gain from helping you and will probably miss out because of extreme demand on the already restricted resources available to the streaming community.
Secondly, read this. https://www.engadget.com/2016/02/14/kodi-takes-the...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/bills-and-utilities/tv/could-you-be-fined-for-illegally-streaming-movies-or-tv-shows/Secondly, read this. https://www.engadget.com/2016/02/14/kodi-takes-the...
So no it's not legal.
All of you lol saying you pay that much what a fool you can get it for free... Um maybe you can but its not legal to do so. If your happy with that so be it but don't convince yourself its something it's not.
Illegal
Supporting criminals
No wonder no one would share how they get to see it all for free / share the wealth so to speak as its a dirty secret they have and they don't want a good thing they have to be bounded round the Internet which could land them in difficulties (possible impact to employment).
Welshbeef said:
So no it's not legal.
No wonder no one would share how they get to see it all for free / share the wealth so to speak as its a dirty secret they have and they don't want a good thing they have to be bounded round the Internet which could land them in difficulties (possible impact to employment).
Did anyone say it was? No wonder no one would share how they get to see it all for free / share the wealth so to speak as its a dirty secret they have and they don't want a good thing they have to be bounded round the Internet which could land them in difficulties (possible impact to employment).
I think even the village idiot realises that getting something free which usually has to be paid for isn't strictly kosher. Whether they care or not is another matter.
It's a bit like 'home taping is killing music'. It clearly wasn't.
Some people are always going to cheat. The authorities and providers are always going to try to prevent them. But the internet makes it virtually impossible.
technodup said:
id anyone say it was?
I think even the village idiot realises that getting something free which usually has to be paid for isn't strictly kosher. Whether they care or not is another matter.
It's a bit like 'home taping is killing music'. It clearly wasn't.
Some people are always going to cheat. The authorities and providers are always going to try to prevent them. But the internet makes it virtually impossible.
No but others on this thread are mocking that people pay and actively suggesting you can get it free instead / offer&acceptance / encouraging what now is clearly illegal. I think even the village idiot realises that getting something free which usually has to be paid for isn't strictly kosher. Whether they care or not is another matter.
It's a bit like 'home taping is killing music'. It clearly wasn't.
Some people are always going to cheat. The authorities and providers are always going to try to prevent them. But the internet makes it virtually impossible.
to say to me you can watch sky sports and even sky box office sports for free online is simply not on.
What annoys me personally is I pay full whack and no issue with that never have (though I'll be downgrading soon as I'm not getting the value out of it) but when overseas say I want to watch a game in our room or round the pool something that location will not be showing anywhere hard luck you cannot. Ditto the box sets or whatever. Sure I love reading books and long meals but with kids it does mean 8am on the balcony with wine/beer so would be nice to have the option to view stuff which I've paid for.
Once I have used a link someone emailed me as I was desperate to watch the Wales 6N game - I managed to see a bitty in and out of connection game. That's not right that someone who pays didn't get that. If the country your going to needs £ for certain rights fine no problem have it as an optional bolt on / why not they have sky everywhere.
technodup said:
id anyone say it was?
I think even the village idiot realises that getting something free which usually has to be paid for isn't strictly kosher. Whether they care or not is another matter.
It's a bit like 'home taping is killing music'. It clearly wasn't.
Some people are always going to cheat. The authorities and providers are always going to try to prevent them. But the internet makes it virtually impossible.
The internet makes it easy! Scrap the licence fee and tax the internet. Job done.I think even the village idiot realises that getting something free which usually has to be paid for isn't strictly kosher. Whether they care or not is another matter.
It's a bit like 'home taping is killing music'. It clearly wasn't.
Some people are always going to cheat. The authorities and providers are always going to try to prevent them. But the internet makes it virtually impossible.
Pesty said:
Or scrap the bbc tax and make it subscription like Amazon. they make such great programmes apparently that everybody will sign up don't see why it's a problem.
They are tasked to create a wide range of shows for the whole UK demographic some commercially would be unviable but are needed none the less. Think less of me me me and my illegal streaming of pay per view and bigger picture. British culture British history not the trash you get on say Ch5 Big brother all year round, or Ch4 Naked attraction or God knows how many shows about location location or get rich quick schemes. No show me some sheep and dogs I'll be happy with my Velcro
Welshbeef said:
No but others on this thread are mocking that people pay and actively suggesting you can get it free instead / offer&acceptance / encouraging what now is clearly illegal.
There's plenty on here would tacitly suggest speeding is OK (leptons 
), even more so do it when they know it's illegal. There are hundreds of examples. At the end of the day you do what you feel comfortable with, knowing the risks. None of us are saints.Personally I find the BBC tax more abhorrent than some people 'borrowing' a few quid off Rupert Murdoch. But each to their own.
I suspect the numbers stealing TV are either too small to bother with, or too large to deal with. Not that it matters to me either way. I've recently been enjoying Friday Night Dinner. Free, legal and actually funny. BBC take note.
Pesty said:
Or scrap the bbc tax and make it subscription like Amazon. they make such great programmes apparently that everybody will sign up don't see why it's a problem.
Why not just fund the BBC out of general taxation? If having a public broadcaster which makes lots of stuff for the public good that commercial channels wouldn't is such a benefit to society then what's wrong with the society at large paying for it?Or have a specific tax for the BBC. Say, a percentage applied to every contract relating to buying rights to sporting events. Football seems to exist in its own bizarre economic bubble separate from reality so tax that. How about every Premiership player having to give, say, £10K a week of the insane wages they earn towards the BBC?
You then don't have any problem getting people to pay up and save loads of money chasing people who don't want to pay. Capita would be f
ked but such is life.Murph7355 said:
Welshbeef said:
They are tasked to create a wide range of shows for the whole UK demographic some commercially would be unviable but are needed none the less.
Bit I've put in bold - ?Edited to add - can I start with Eastenders.
technodup said:
AJL308 said:
Why not just fund the BBC out of general taxation? How about every Premiership player having to give, say, £10K a week of the insane wages they earn towards the BBC?
How about forgetting new taxes and just let people buy what they want?Now, you can debate the rights and wrongs of that, whether it works and whether it's even needed. If it exists for public benefit though then it is at least a reasonable argument that the public at large should pay for it.
Funk said:
La Liga said:
FredClogs said:
Good for the BBC, they're by far the best braodcaster in the world and largely because of the (not so) unique way they're funded. One of the best value bits of British culture there is, like the NHS, something we should all be incredibly proud of, probably the only two things we have left to be proud of.
I agree, but it's much cooler to take the default, parroted, 'anti-BBC / establishment / lefty-bias' view. I'm one of the cool kids taking the default, parroted, 'anti-BBC'/establishement/left-bias view that it needs getting rid of. FredClogs thinks it's ace though.
Welshbeef said:
Fair point - I wants fussed about it but my wife always was and as such I do enjoy it purely for mindless TV or the kiss take how come nobody has a washing machine how can market traders afford to have London pub beers every episode. Stacey Slater has a certain appeal.
That's an interesting point. I haven't seen Eastenders in about 10 years now but you do have a point! Those people are living an unrealistic lifestyle!
paulrockliffe said:
The Sky On Demand stuff is a bit of a grey area isn't it? Last time I looked On Demand operated a system of broadcast and record on a hidden bit of the hard disk for a lot of the content, rather than defaulting to an internet stream for everything. You could argue that both ways I think
I'm not sure whether it is possible to identify whether you're watching a pre-record or a stream either?
It is funny when one elects to dload a programme and wammo! It's there straight away!I'm not sure whether it is possible to identify whether you're watching a pre-record or a stream either?
There used to be an old 'watch now' sort of thing where one could watch popular stuff, but I think the updated systems have replaced it.
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