Iplayer to need TV licence from 1/9/2016 - full fee required

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Murph7355 said:

Welshbeef said:

They are tasked to create a wide range of shows for the whole UK demographic some commercially would be unviable but are needed none the less.

Bit I've put in bold - ?

Edited to add - can I start with Eastenders.

Fair point - I wants fussed about it but my wife always was and as such I do enjoy it purely for mindless TV or the kiss take how come nobody has a washing machine how can market traders afford to have London pub beers every episode. Stacey Slater has a certain appeal.

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oyster said:

Reasonable level?

It's the cheapest entertainment of all.


A meal out costs more than an entire year of television and radio access.

Yea.

We're all here arguing the toss over £144 a year!!
If that's the biggest concern the non payers have their lives must be pretty sweet - then again they are ignoring the big pink elephant in the room our Ponzi state pension and most public sector pension Ponzi schemes which we are all on the hook for -oh well if that helps them sleep at night

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danllama said:

What grinds me is that i'm paying for biased crap. If it was balanced I would have no issue with it. The way they handled the referendum and brexit is something I will never forgive or forget.

I will not be renewing my tv license when I move home soon.

Forgive and forget?

Jesus you don't have very thick skin do you.

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98elise said:

Why do they have soap operas on in the evening, and Saturday night celeb shows then? Day time stuff is all pretty much by the numbers as well, its either

1. Filming the public
2. Game shows
3. Antiques
4. all of the above

The BBC are essentially taking customers from commercial channels, and making you pay for it even if you only use the commercial channels. That alone seems wrong.

TV is entertainment, and is becoming less relevant as every year goes by. My kids do not watch broadcast TV ever. They watch Netflix, Youtube or Facebook. We're even going that way. TV is on because we're used to it but generally we're paying more attention to our tablets. My kids have a play room with a TV. It broke 3 months ago and after initially telling me it didn't work they never mentioned it again.

Can I suggest your kids watch CBeebies it is exceptional truly educational unlike the normal cartoons you get on sky kids channels.

You can pass me a Internet pint for that .

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21TonyK said:

Changes also mean that students in a shared house (with individual tenancy agreements) all need separate licenses so they can watch iPlayer on their laptops.

Doubt many will.

They will need to input a TV licence number.


Really & Ive done this before - landlord should pay TV licence and simply add that into the rental cost. Takes away all the churn hassle.

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CrutyRammers said:

Welshbeef said:

They will need to input a TV licence number.

So how do you stop people sharing numbers around?
It's a model that's totally at odds with how the world is now, and can only be made to work by a very costly process of chasing people through the courts, which achieves what, exactly, for society?

Limit the number of users per licence.

Just like sky do with sky go.

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Efbe said:

google: Kodi
or search on ebay for: Kodi

Apple iPhone doesn't allow that application ?

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technodup said:

Edinburger said:

iPlayer content is not free.

Up until whenever the cut off is that's exactly what it is. As it should be because the licence is to watch shows 'as they are broadcast'.

Not my fault they fked up their definitions. You'd think with all those billions they'd employ smarter people.

Still now you can pay your way to watch it legally.

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alock said:

I thought I would see how this is going to work, so I navigated my Chrome browser to iPlayer and clicked on a program. I got this:


I click 'I have a TV license' and it started playing. Where do I enter my license?

The thing is if say you didn't have a TV licence but have actually selected Yes you do there is no debate about if you did or didn't tell any porkie pies.


I'm looking forward to these TV licence fee Dodgers paying up so will reduce the mass publics increase.

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technodup said:

on't hold your breath.

You can suffer BBC if you like, I've got a whole world of TV to choose from.

That's fine provided you don't ever use the service then fair enough otherwise pay up get those cobwebs off your wallet.

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technodup said:

ell you what, next time I want to watch Gregg Wallace mincing round a factory talking bks for 5 year olds instead of the West Wing, Breaking Bad or Friday Night Dinner I'll dust off the old Glaswegian wallet.

Until then...

I'll be waiting for it.

West wing is pretty old I watched those series live at the time how come your so backward? Next you'll be saying 24 box set run.

Or Button moon.


Dust it off.

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Pesty said:

Lol just went on I player to see how it would work. It asks if you have a license if you say yes on you go.

Yep that's going to work.

But you've then committed the crime no ifs or buts.

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All that jazz said:

Does Welshbeef work for the BBC or should I be copying his posts into the "one single thing that makes you think "knob" thread" ?

I cannot state that I do not. ...

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21TonyK said:

Exactly. I pay my license fee happily, as do several relatives. We make use of it in the UK and wherever else we might be by whatever means required.

That is fair and reasonable.

Expecting 9 students to pay £145 each when their neighbour (with nine occupants) is payment £145 for all is not fair or reasonable.

Take the locks off the door then and don't be worried if someone walks in when your pulling a sausage.

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21TonyK said:

Ok, so have we established who you work for? So, answer this.

House with 9 bedrooms and shared common areas, kitchen, dining room etc. One has a shared tenancy agreement, one has individual tenancies for each bedroom. The individual tenancy guarantees security for each tenant and places onus on landlord for income. The other has a common tenancy sharing the responsibility for rent between tenants.

Why the difference? Why should my daughter pay £145 a year (when she only watches Enders on catchup) compared to he neighbour paying £15 a year?

No sense.

Put it this way as a landlord myself I put the following charges into the rent/above the rent.
1. council Tax
2. tv licence
3. None of my let properties are on water meters so I pay the flat fee
4. window cleaning external.

Makes it very easy - nothing ever paid late and everything legal plus makes it easier for the tennants 1 bill to pay and it's to me. Happy days.

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All that jazz said:

What about the tenants who never watch or listen to BBC content? Do you refund them the £145 you're conning them out? Let me guess the answer to that one....

What do you mean con?
There is a licence on the properties and clear in all the contracts what is included and uplift mechanisms. No one ever in over what 18 years has ever requested that it is not required (most find this set up very convenient).

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technodup said:

've never rented, but should it ever happen and the landlord includes a TV licence 'for my convenience' he'll changing his mind pretty sharpish.

Fair enough there is no requirement - but i would want verification in writing from you that you would not be using anything to watch live TV otherwise you'd have to accept the £12pcm or find somewhere else.

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21TonyK said:

Perfectly reasonable but "what to do" in a HMO with individual tenancies? £12pcm per person? are you paying BBC £1300+ as a license fee?

No. Its down to the individual. No realistic or ever going to happen.

I don't do HMOs.

But if I did then I'd have the correct number of licences the HMO require so potentially yes I'd be paying £1,300+ per year.


HMOs are really not a great idea for a landlord seldom work and the rolling renovations are materially higher than whole unit. But I guess some people do the HMOs.

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Zoon said:

The BBC have had a cushy number for a long time, obviously it's in their highly paid management's interest that we all have a TV licence so they can keep paying Gary Lineker £1.8 million a year to present MOTD.

It's time they adopted the Netflix approach, give the public the option and they'll vote with their feet. Or credit card numbers.

You do know that Netflix purchases shows from commercial stations and possibly makes some of its own.

IF tv licence is scrapped then the cost per show would step up markedly



Personally I dislike adverts specifically on the Radio who is going to pay for that to remain clear of commercials?
I dislike adverts on TV too
I don't like everything the BBC make but they are world class at CBeebies and CBBC worlds apart from commercial offering.
I've listed many times here the countless award winning shows and the exceptionally high number of viewers they achieve.


The BBC is a wonderful setup and has been said countless times nearly every country in the world has a fee to all for the tv and radio - we however get the BBC for free whereas other countries simply get the commercial offering PLUS the fee. Don't you lot get this? Lose the BBC the fee will remain

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Funk said:

The BBC churns out repetitive, mindless st across too many channels and mediums. It needs culling back, and hard.

Has the BBC reduced the % of repeats since it was revealed a couple of years back that nearly two thirds of its output is regurgitated? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/...

I'd love to see intelligent science programmes (with balanced views on pro-/anti-warming positions) but sadly we just seem to get lots of things like The Voice, Strictly, endless cooking 'competitions' and angry shouty people on Eastenders.

Until earlier this year there were two things I watched from the BBC; Top Gear and, on occasion, PMQs both on iPlayer (I do not have a TV licence). TG is dead and I can live without PMQs so the changes to iPlayer have no effect on me.

I'll simply switch off completely.

Edited by Funk on Friday 2nd September 16:13

Sky too
Fox too
HBO too

The voice is sold to ITV.
Strictly is very traditional British culture - Ballroom dancing and its ability to be cross generational entertainment is hard.
Eastenders - same could be said for Coronation street Emerdale farm Crossroads Hollyoaks if you don't like Solas/long series designed for family viewing don't watch it.
The Sat morning cooking isn't really a cooking show its a combination of interviews with some decent easy cooking and early morning wine drinking on the weekend which should encourage our culture onto those who have joined our country. Getting pissed is part of what we do and often.