Iplayer to need TV licence from 1/9/2016 - full fee required

[Cotty]

Edinburger said:

So just to be clear, you never ever use any BBC services? Never?

It's £12 per month. An absolute bargain. Life really is far too short to worry about it.

I have not even switched my TV on for the last 5 months. No point paying for something I don't use.

BBC website is free but I don't use it. My alarm clock plays Capital Radio in the mornings. Think I have use iplayer once years ago but these days not interested in the content, assuming its just delayed TV.

[Hosenbugler]

Edinburger said:

So just to be clear, you never ever use any BBC services? Never?

It's £12 per month. An absolute bargain. Life really is far too short to worry about it.

Since when is paying for something you do not use a bargain? Total contradiction of terms.

[chris watton]

I find it strange in this day and age that there are still many people who find it hard to believe that a lot of other people no longer watch live terrestrial TV, it's like they're still in an '80's/'90's time warp and have no idea of the vast amount of choice outside of the main channels that is now available.

For us, the BBC means nothing, it is outdated and offers very little we want to watch. yet we still pay for it. (In fairness, ITV and C4 are not watched that much, too)

Edited by chris watton on Friday 9th September 13:19

[CrutyRammers]

Hosenbugler said:

Edinburger said:

So just to be clear, you never ever use any BBC services? Never?

It's £12 per month. An absolute bargain. Life really is far too short to worry about it.

Since when is paying for something you do not use a bargain? Total contradiction of terms.

Well, when it fits in with the argument you're trying to make I think

[Funk]

CrutyRammers said:

Hosenbugler said:

Edinburger said:

So just to be clear, you never ever use any BBC services? Never?

It's £12 per month. An absolute bargain. Life really is far too short to worry about it.

Since when is paying for something you do not use a bargain? Total contradiction of terms.

Well, when it fits in with the argument you're trying to make I think

Indeed. It's like someone telling me that XYZ-brand tampons are on offer in Sainsbury's. Brill, you buy some - I don't need or want them!

[FiF]

chris watton said:

I find it strange in this day and age that there are still many people who find it hard to believe that a lot of other people no longer watch live terrestrial TV, it's like they're still in an '80's/'90's time warp and have no idea of the vast amount of choice outside of the main channels that is now available.

For us, the BBC means nothing, it is outdated and offers very little we want to watch. yet we still pay for it. (In fairness, ITV and C4 are not watched that much, too)

Edited by chris watton on Friday 9th September 13:19

Turning that around, I find it strange that some people who, for whatever reasons, find nothing within the BBC output for them, feel the need to articulate the insults that anyone who does watch some that output, be it recorded live or on catch-up and is happy to pay for that, is some sort of out of touch dinosaur stuck in the 80's, with the side implication that it's only the cool kids on the block who are street wise and aware of what's out there away from main stream media.

[Cotty]

FiF said:

Turning that around, I find it strange that some people who, for whatever reasons, find nothing within the BBC output for them, feel the need to articulate the insults that anyone who does watch some that output, be it recorded live or on catch-up and is happy to pay for that, is some sort of out of touch dinosaur stuck in the 80's, with the side implication that it's only the cool kids on the block who are street wise and aware of what's out there away from main stream media.

You have been on PH long enough to know that however large a certain group is there will always be a few bad eggs willing to st on, look down on or generally take the piss out of people that do not agree with the views of that group.

I believe that most people who do not watch TV couldn’t care less whether other people watch it. But there will be a small minority trying to sound all high and mighty for not watching TV. You just have to take the rough with the smooth and not let it bother you.

[All that jazz]

FiF said:

chris watton said:

I find it strange in this day and age that there are still many people who find it hard to believe that a lot of other people no longer watch live terrestrial TV, it's like they're still in an '80's/'90's time warp and have no idea of the vast amount of choice outside of the main channels that is now available.

For us, the BBC means nothing, it is outdated and offers very little we want to watch. yet we still pay for it. (In fairness, ITV and C4 are not watched that much, too)

Edited by chris watton on Friday 9th September 13:19

Turning that around, I find it strange that some people who, for whatever reasons, find nothing within the BBC output for them, feel the need to articulate the insults that anyone who does watch some that output, be it recorded live or on catch-up and is happy to pay for that, is some sort of out of touch dinosaur stuck in the 80's, with the side implication that it's only the cool kids on the block who are street wise and aware of what's out there away from main stream media.

Because for the most part it's true. Generally all those that constantly bang on about how great the BBC is and why everyone should be forced to pay for it are usually retired (or close to) lefties that don't even have a clue how to access any kind of televised or filmed content outside of their beloved BBC. Once the current 50+ generation dies off the BBC will be toast in its current format, I will guarantee that.

[FiF]

All that jazz said:

FiF said:

chris watton said:

I find it strange in this day and age that there are still many people who find it hard to believe that a lot of other people no longer watch live terrestrial TV, it's like they're still in an '80's/'90's time warp and have no idea of the vast amount of choice outside of the main channels that is now available.

For us, the BBC means nothing, it is outdated and offers very little we want to watch. yet we still pay for it. (In fairness, ITV and C4 are not watched that much, too)

Edited by chris watton on Friday 9th September 13:19

Turning that around, I find it strange that some people who, for whatever reasons, find nothing within the BBC output for them, feel the need to articulate the insults that anyone who does watch some that output, be it recorded live or on catch-up and is happy to pay for that, is some sort of out of touch dinosaur stuck in the 80's, with the side implication that it's only the cool kids on the block who are street wise and aware of what's out there away from main stream media.

Because for the most part it's true. Generally all those that constantly bang on about how great the BBC is and why everyone should be forced to pay for it are usually retired (or close to) lefties that don't even have a clue how to access any kind of televised or filmed content outside of their beloved BBC. Once the current 50+ generation dies off the BBC will be toast in its current format, I will guarantee that.

Right on cue another one arrives to air some inaccurate prejudices.

@Cotty, you're probably correct in your observations, there are some that really aren't worth the effort.

[Edinburger]

Oh dear. There's a lot of people out of touch with the world on this thread.

Think I'll be ducking out of this thread. I've read some strange stuff in my life.

[chris watton]

FiF said:

chris watton said:

I find it strange in this day and age that there are still many people who find it hard to believe that a lot of other people no longer watch live terrestrial TV, it's like they're still in an '80's/'90's time warp and have no idea of the vast amount of choice outside of the main channels that is now available.

For us, the BBC means nothing, it is outdated and offers very little we want to watch. yet we still pay for it. (In fairness, ITV and C4 are not watched that much, too)

Edited by chris watton on Friday 9th September 13:19

Turning that around, I find it strange that some people who, for whatever reasons, find nothing within the BBC output for them, feel the need to articulate the insults that anyone who does watch some that output, be it recorded live or on catch-up and is happy to pay for that, is some sort of out of touch dinosaur stuck in the 80's, with the side implication that it's only the cool kids on the block who are street wise and aware of what's out there away from main stream media.

The thing is, I'm about as far removed from a 'Cool Kid' as one can go, being a very ordinary, balding near 50 year old git. I am being honest when I say there is almost nothing I want to watch on the BBC, that is a genuine comment, nothing to do with trying to appear 'down with the kids' I didn't even know I could watch Amazon Prime and Netflix on our PS4 until a few months ago. Until that time, I watched stuff through our PC under the TV, which we've had in one form or another for the past decade. Most of out TV stuff comes from that or via the PS4. In fact, it's got to a point where we're even considering trimming SKY to the bare bones, because we hardly watch that, too - we only have it for the Sky Atlantic and FX channels. All the latest news can be obtained from the internet, even on our phones!
With that in mind, from my point of view (and it's only my point of view I can comment upon) the BBC is a dinosaur being kept on life support from almost every household in the country with a regressive tax, when every other media outlet does not have this luxury. How is that fair?

[All that jazz]

Edinburger said:

It's £12 per month. An absolute bargain.

[All that jazz]

chris watton said:

With that in mind, from my point of view (and it's only my point of view I can comment upon) the BBC is a dinosaur being kept on life support from almost every household in the country with a regressive tax, when every other media outlet does not have this luxury. How is that fair?

Because it's only £12 per month and that's a bargain. You should stop questioning it, shut up about it and just pay your TV taxes like a good little boy. The BBC and their lefty apologists know what's best for you.

[Funk]

Edinburger said:

Oh dear. There's a lot of people out of touch with the world on this thread.

Think I'll be ducking out of this thread. I've read some strange stuff in my life.

Me too - mostly your posts though to be fair.

Edited by Funk on Friday 9th September 17:38

[FiF]

chris watton said:

FiF said:

chris watton said:

I find it strange in this day and age that there are still many people who find it hard to believe that a lot of other people no longer watch live terrestrial TV, it's like they're still in an '80's/'90's time warp and have no idea of the vast amount of choice outside of the main channels that is now available.

For us, the BBC means nothing, it is outdated and offers very little we want to watch. yet we still pay for it. (In fairness, ITV and C4 are not watched that much, too)

Edited by chris watton on Friday 9th September 13:19

Turning that around, I find it strange that some people who, for whatever reasons, find nothing within the BBC output for them, feel the need to articulate the insults that anyone who does watch some that output, be it recorded live or on catch-up and is happy to pay for that, is some sort of out of touch dinosaur stuck in the 80's, with the side implication that it's only the cool kids on the block who are street wise and aware of what's out there away from main stream media.

The thing is, I'm about as far removed from a 'Cool Kid' as one can go, being a very ordinary, balding near 50 year old git. I am being honest when I say there is almost nothing I want to watch on the BBC, that is a genuine comment, nothing to do with trying to appear 'down with the kids' I didn't even know I could watch Amazon Prime and Netflix on our PS4 until a few months ago. Until that time, I watched stuff through our PC under the TV, which we've had in one form or another for the past decade. Most of out TV stuff comes from that or via the PS4. In fact, it's got to a point where we're even considering trimming SKY to the bare bones, because we hardly watch that, too - we only have it for the Sky Atlantic and FX channels. All the latest news can be obtained from the internet, even on our phones!
With that in mind, from my point of view (and it's only my point of view I can comment upon) the BBC is a dinosaur being kept on life support from almost every household in the country with a regressive tax, when every other media outlet does not have this luxury. How is that fair?

Ok is it fair that the BBC has impositions put upon it that other broadcasters do not? It's back to this question of state broadcasters or not.

[Pesty]

Edinburger said:

Oh dear. There's a lot of people out of touch with the world on this thread.

Think I'll be ducking out of this thread. I've read some strange stuff in my life.

We know what you mean. Your only argument is you must like what I like because I like it. I'd duck out too.

[dxg]

Edinburger said:

Are you really suggesting those people avoid all BBC TV channels, never listen to BBC radio and never use BBC online services?

You appear to be confused. You don't need a TV licence to listen to BBC Radio, nor do you need one to consume BBC Online. I happily consume the former and avoid the latter (because it's awful) without a licence.

[technodup]

Hosenbugler said:

Edinburger said:

So just to be clear, you never ever use any BBC services? Never?

It's £12 per month. An absolute bargain. Life really is far too short to worry about it.

Since when is paying for something you do not use a bargain? Total contradiction of terms.

That's our Edinburgher.

As for his OP I'm not sure what the radio or website have to do with anything as they are entirely separate from the terms of the TV licence. In relative terms they really do cost fk all.

As per the other poster I have saved over £1k, had a good laugh at the retarded monthly threats and watched the (very) odd programme on iPlayer. But as the BBC really doesn't cater for 30 something men there's nothing for me to go without.

Anything which is half decent becomes available elsewhere anyway, be it DVD, Netflix or wherever. Not that I've ever bought a DVD.

[Funk]

PW said:

Funk said:

Indeed. It's like someone telling me that XYZ-brand tampons are on offer in Sainsbury's. Brill, you buy some - I don't need or want them!

Throw in that every year Sainsbury's will send you a letter insisting you must contact them to tell them that you don't want tampons, and if you don't they'll send people to your house and take you to court for tampon theft.

Worse than that - they want someone to have a look in my boxers to make sure I'm really a dude!

[Pesty]

PW said:

Funk said:

Indeed. It's like someone telling me that XYZ-brand tampons are on offer in Sainsbury's. Brill, you buy some - I don't need or want them!

Throw in that every year Sainsbury's will send you a letter insisting you must contact them to tell them that you don't want tampons, and if you don't they'll send people to your house and take you to court for tampon theft.

Sometimes even if you pay for the tampons too. Also most of the tampons are used, poor quality, not fit for purpose, every now and again you get a good one @ around twice a year.