Iplayer to need TV licence from 1/9/2016 - full fee required

[Edinburger]

technodup said:

Hosenbugler said:

Edinburger said:

So just to be clear, you never ever use any BBC services? Never?

It's £12 per month. An absolute bargain. Life really is far too short to worry about it.

Since when is paying for something you do not use a bargain? Total contradiction of terms.

That's our Edinburgher.

As for his OP I'm not sure what the radio or website have to do with anything as they are entirely separate from the terms of the TV licence. In relative terms they really do cost fk all.

As per the other poster I have saved over £1k, had a good laugh at the retarded monthly threats and watched the (very) odd programme on iPlayer. But as the BBC really doesn't cater for 30 something men there's nothing for me to go without.

Anything which is half decent becomes available elsewhere anyway, be it DVD, Netflix or wherever. Not that I've ever bought a DVD.

Really?

So how do you think the BBC's online and radio content is funded?

But here you are boasting that you watch the odd iPlayer programme and you laugh in the face of the threats for non-payment of the licence fee.

Do you understand that?

What's your views on tax dodgers? Evasion not avoidance? Hmm...? There's a theme with you, isn't there?

From their website:

A standard colour TV Licence costs £145.50 – the equivalent of £12.13 per month or just under 40p per day.
The fee you pay provides a wide range of TV, radio and online content, as well as developing new ways to deliver it to you. In addition to funding BBC programmes and services, a proportion of the licence fee contributes to the costs of rolling out broadband to the UK population and funding Welsh Language TV channel S4C and local TV channels. This was agreed with the government as part of the 2010 licence fee settlement.

http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one...

[Edinburger]

Pesty said:

Edinburger said:

Oh dear. There's a lot of people out of touch with the world on this thread.

Think I'll be ducking out of this thread. I've read some strange stuff in my life.

We know what you mean. Your only argument is you must like what I like because I like it. I'd duck out too.

Do you agree with everything the government spend your tax on?

[dxg]

They day the radio licence is re-introduced, I will happily get one. Until then, I'll continue to enjoy radio without the need to pay for television.

[Edinburger]

dxg said:

They day the radio licence is re-introduced, I will happily get one. Until then, I'll continue to enjoy radio without the need to pay for television.

Seriously?

Is BBC radio free to produce?!

Unbelievable.

[Impasse]

Edinburger said:

Seriously?

Is BBC radio free to produce?!

Unbelievable.

No idea. But The Chart Show sponsored by Monster Energy Drink and Gardeners' World in conjunction with our friends at John Innes should be relatively easy to monetise should the need come about.

[dxg]

Edinburger said:

dxg said:

They day the radio licence is re-introduced, I will happily get one. Until then, I'll continue to enjoy radio without the need to pay for television.

Seriously?

Is BBC radio free to produce?!

Unbelievable.

You are attempting to make a moral case that I just don't support. I prefer to focus on the legal one which, after all, is a codified form of the values of society at large.

[technodup]

Edinburger said:

Really?

So how do you think the BBC's online and radio content is funded?

I'm well aware how it's funded but I don't give a fk. You do not need a TV licence to listen to the radio or read the website.

Edinburger said:

But here you are boasting that you watch the odd iPlayer programme and you laugh in the face of the threats for non-payment of the licence fee.

It's hardly a boast, BBC content is largely ste, which is why I rarely watch it.

Edinburger said:

What's your views on tax dodgers? Evasion not avoidance? Hmm...? There's a theme with you, isn't there?

My view is tax should be minimised at all levels. The government should take the minimum necessary and people should look to minimise that again. If it's legal it should be avoided. If we're talking morals I think it's utterly immoral for the state to take half of anyone's earnings.

I have no wish to pay for your social worker.

[TheInternet]

Funk said:

AJL308 said:

Atomic12C said:

Funk said:

Make no mistake; TVL will play dirty in order to get a 'win'.

That is just disgusting behaviour.

I would also like to know why they were not prosecuted for attempted miscarriage of justice (Perjury). ?

I assume that it is a question of who you prosecute. You need to prove who it was who altered the video evidence.

Someone somewhere knows. It's disgusting that it didn't make the mainstream news.

The account provided by Funk isn't quite accurate. Having looked into it I can't believe (a) the amount of tinfoilery and (b) that he wasn't found guilty.

[Funk]

TheInternet said:

Funk said:

AJL308 said:

Atomic12C said:

Funk said:

Make no mistake; TVL will play dirty in order to get a 'win'.

That is just disgusting behaviour.

I would also like to know why they were not prosecuted for attempted miscarriage of justice (Perjury). ?

I assume that it is a question of who you prosecute. You need to prove who it was who altered the video evidence.

Someone somewhere knows. It's disgusting that it didn't make the mainstream news.

The account provided by Funk isn't quite accurate. Having looked into it I can't believe (a) the amount of tinfoilery and (b) that he wasn't found guilty.

Which bit 'isn't quite accurate'..?

He had no live signal capable of being received. Why can't you believe he 'wasn't found guilty'? Genuinely interested to know how you arrived at that conclusion.

[Welshbeef]

I think we should have the licence fee increases.

I want more people to watch latest films more sports from sky.
Just think the relative extra cost per person in the UK will be very small v full sky package.

Come on BBC up the fee buy these great HBO dramas have more channels and the sports too. Let's let the British BC take on the US BSKYB.

We want a fairer society. It's not fair that some can afford to watch sky sports and go to the cinema or sky box office let's all chip in together for the greater good.



Or let's nationalise BSKYB within UK.

[FiF]

Where's that popcorn

[technodup]

Welshbeef said:

We want a fairer society.

I couldn't give a fk about a fairer society tbh.

But heh, obvious troll is...

[D-Angle]

I think people have started consuming tv shows the way they consume books, watching a couple of episodes of a series when you have time has become the same as reading a couple of chapters. That's why Netflix releasing whole series has been so successful, you can cram the whole thing or just put it on when you have time.

I think that TV schedules are being replaced by viewers creating their own schedules to suit their lives. I don't bother with anything the BBC does apart from Radio 4 and if they could pay for that by sticking some adverts on it, that would be fine with me. I don't see why they should get to demand tribute from every person in the UK who wants to watch TV.

Truth is, the BBC know that they are largely an outdated jobs-for-boys organisation that keeps their friends employed making 'worthy' programming that they think the plebs should be impressed by. If they didn't they would let the TV license evolve into a BBC subscription service but they seem very quiet on that idea.

[Welshbeef]

technodup said:

Welshbeef said:

We want a fairer society.

I couldn't give a fk about a fairer society tbh.

But heh, obvious troll is...

Are you suggesting Jeremy Corbyn is a troll

Obvious really.

[chr15b]

PW said:

Funk said:

Indeed. It's like someone telling me that XYZ-brand tampons are on offer in Sainsbury's. Brill, you buy some - I don't need or want them!

Throw in that every year Sainsbury's will send you a letter insisting you must contact them to tell them that you don't want tampons, and if you don't they'll send people to your house and take you to court for tampon theft.

I used a similar analogy with them when they kept insisting I tell them I don't consume live TV, I cancelled my licence last year and told them in writing I no longer watch live TV. at what would have been licence renewal time they started sending me letters every few days so i reminded them of my contact from a few months previously. The came out with that I need to keep them updated with that I'm still not watching live TV. I suggested it was like me phoning the local pizza shop to remind them I don't want one of their pizzas delivered tonight. I've not heard from them since.

I'm not trying to be awkward, I'm not playing on any of this they're harassing me nonsense etc, but I do see them as a service, much like sky, virginmedia, or the local gym, if I want to use their service, I'll contact them and pay, until then leave me alone.

[Edinburger]

chr15b said:

I used a similar analogy with them when they kept insisting I tell them I don't consume live TV, I cancelled my licence last year and told them in writing I no longer watch live TV. at what would have been licence renewal time they started sending me letters every few days so i reminded them of my contact from a few months previously. The came out with that I need to keep them updated with that I'm still not watching live TV. I suggested it was like me phoning the local pizza shop to remind them I don't want one of their pizzas delivered tonight. I've not heard from them since.

I'm not trying to be awkward, I'm not playing on any of this they're harassing me nonsense etc, but I do see them as a service, much like sky, virginmedia, or the local gym, if I want to use their service, I'll contact them and pay, until then leave me alone.

However, the TV licence isn't just to pay for live TV. It pays for all BBC services ie online content, iPlayer back book, radio, educational material and events, etc., etc.

If you told HMRC that you don't have any house bound aged relations, would you expect your income tax to reduce because you don't want / need to pay for 'meals on wheels'?

I find it stagerring that you lot have those views. Quite sad, actually.

[Edinburger]

dxg said:

Edinburger said:

Are you really suggesting those people avoid all BBC TV channels, never listen to BBC radio and never use BBC online services?

You appear to be confused. You don't need a TV licence to listen to BBC Radio, nor do you need one to consume BBC Online. I happily consume the former and avoid the latter (because it's awful) without a licence.

It's not quite panto season yet, but "Oh yes you do!".

[Edinburger]

technodup said:

Edinburger said:

Really?

So how do you think the BBC's online and radio content is funded?

I'm well aware how it's funded but I don't give a fk. You do not need a TV licence to listen to the radio or read the website.

Edinburger said:

But here you are boasting that you watch the odd iPlayer programme and you laugh in the face of the threats for non-payment of the licence fee.

It's hardly a boast, BBC content is largely ste, which is why I rarely watch it.

Edinburger said:

What's your views on tax dodgers? Evasion not avoidance? Hmm...? There's a theme with you, isn't there?

My view is tax should be minimised at all levels. The government should take the minimum necessary and people should look to minimise that again. If it's legal it should be avoided. If we're talking morals I think it's utterly immoral for the state to take half of anyone's earnings.

I have no wish to pay for your social worker.

I have no wish to pay for bombs to fall in other countries but my tax and your tax pay for that!

You're trying to write out of the point.

At the end of the day, by fiddling the TV license you're no better than someone trying to incorrectly claim a state benefit they're not entitled to, or some fiddling their taxes or expenses.

End of.

[threadlock]

Edinburger said:

dxg said:

Edinburger said:

Are you really suggesting those people avoid all BBC TV channels, never listen to BBC radio and never use BBC online services?

You appear to be confused. You don't need a TV licence to listen to BBC Radio, nor do you need one to consume BBC Online. I happily consume the former and avoid the latter (because it's awful) without a licence.

It's not quite panto season yet, but "Oh yes you do!".

Oh yes, you do what?
Need a TV licence to listen to BBC radio? Nope.
Need a TV licence to look at the BBC's websites? Nope.

[technodup]

Edinburger said:

dxg said:

Edinburger said:

Are you really suggesting those people avoid all BBC TV channels, never listen to BBC radio and never use BBC online services?

You appear to be confused. You don't need a TV licence to listen to BBC Radio, nor do you need one to consume BBC Online. I happily consume the former and avoid the latter (because it's awful) without a licence.

It's not quite panto season yet, but "Oh yes you do!".

You absolutely, definitely unequivocally do not.

Edinburger said:

by fiddling the TV license you're no better than someone trying to incorrectly claim a state benefit they're not entitled to, or some fiddling their taxes or expenses.

End of.

End of up your arse. I'm not 'fiddling' anything. I'll say it once more seeing as you're either stupid or hard of hearing, YOU DO NOT NEED A TV LICENCE IF YOU DO NOT WATCH LIVE TV. The clue is in the name.