Iplayer to need TV licence from 1/9/2016 - full fee required
Discussion
Cotty said:
21TonyK said:
She's in a shared house with 8 other students. Only one has a license fee and they also have a telly. All of the remaining students have agreed they are more than happy with all the other TV they occasionally watch and the Amazon Prime they got free with their student bank accounts.
Check the "any channel" bit. Just watch ITV? need a licence.
http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one
Edited by Cotty on Tuesday 27th September 19:13
No TV and not using a computer, laptop, phone or other device to watch live TV on any channel or any BBC programmes on iPlayer?
Empty property or unoccupied address?
Covered by another licence?"
Wow... just wow.. So now the beeb are charging for ITV live.
IF,, just IF!! they said one licence per property they would all happily chuck in a couple of quid a month each. But, when they are told they have to have a licence per "room", ie. 9 x £145 for on house you can imagine the laughter.
21TonyK said:
"Think you don’t need a TV Licence?
No TV and not using a computer, laptop, phone or other device to watch live TV on any channel or any BBC programmes on iPlayer?
Empty property or unoccupied address?
Covered by another licence?"
Wow... just wow.. So now the beeb are charging for ITV live.
IF,, just IF!! they said one licence per property they would all happily chuck in a couple of quid a month each. But, when they are told they have to have a licence per "room", ie. 9 x £145 for on house you can imagine the laughter.
It's been that way for quite a while AIUI. You need a TV license if you watch live telly. Now, you need a TV license if you watch iPlayer also.No TV and not using a computer, laptop, phone or other device to watch live TV on any channel or any BBC programmes on iPlayer?
Empty property or unoccupied address?
Covered by another licence?"
Wow... just wow.. So now the beeb are charging for ITV live.
IF,, just IF!! they said one licence per property they would all happily chuck in a couple of quid a month each. But, when they are told they have to have a licence per "room", ie. 9 x £145 for on house you can imagine the laughter.
Who told them they need a license per room? Pretty sure that's nonsense. 2 Adults and 2 Children don't need 4 licenses.
21TonyK said:
Wow... just wow.. So now the beeb are charging for ITV live.
The beeb charge you for watching any channels that receive live TV even if it is not their own. To put it in a Pistonhead context its like needing a licence to drive on the road but all the money goes to Ford, even if you drive a Honda. Sorry just clarifying the position.
21TonyK said:
IF,, just IF!! they said one licence per property they would all happily chuck in a couple of quid a month each. But, when they are told they have to have a licence per "room", ie. 9 x £145 for on house you can imagine the laughter.
They may not need one per room. http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one...
What about shared student housing?
If a student has a separate tenancy agreement for their room, they will need to be covered by a separate licence.
If there's a joint tenancy agreement for the whole house – a common type of shared house arrangement – the occupants will probably only need one licence between them. But, if a student’s accommodation is self-contained, e.g. they pay for their own utilities or have their own entrance to the property, they may need their own licence.
If you're still not sure, check our advice for tenants and lodgers to find out more.
Cotty said:
21TonyK said:
She's in a shared house with 8 other students. Only one has a license fee and they also have a telly. All of the remaining students have agreed they are more than happy with all the other TV they occasionally watch and the Amazon Prime they got free with their student bank accounts.
Check the "any channel" bit. Just watch ITV? need a licence.
http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one
Edited by Cotty on Tuesday 27th September 19:13
Cotty said:
21TonyK said:
IF,, just IF!! they said one licence per property they would all happily chuck in a couple of quid a month each. But, when they are told they have to have a licence per "room", ie. 9 x £145 for on house you can imagine the laughter.
They may not need one per room. http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one...
What about shared student housing?
If a student has a separate tenancy agreement for their room, they will need to be covered by a separate licence.
If there's a joint tenancy agreement for the whole house – a common type of shared house arrangement – the occupants will probably only need one licence between them. But, if a student’s accommodation is self-contained, e.g. they pay for their own utilities or have their own entrance to the property, they may need their own licence.
If you're still not sure, check our advice for tenants and lodgers to find out more.
funkyrobot said:
Cotty said:
Im glad they are doing it, that way they can not accuse me of watching it when I am not.
Indeed. Helps us people who don't have a licence."have to sign in to view or listen to programmes “in early 2017”,"
VIEW OR LISTEN
wtf?
So, this is a fundamental reform of the TV licence to also cover radio programmes?
And if they go down this route, am I going to have to get a licence to cover radio - live or just catch up?
Even if I do, I *still* won't watch their dire TV output on principle.
fk me. I did not vote for being forced to pay for this propaganda.
Hosenbugler said:
Europa1 said:
This is an annoying development. One of the things that winds me up about watching any Channel 4 (and its offshoots) output online is it's yet another thing I need a username and password for.
Under the new charter, the Beeb can charge for additional services under a subscription basis. Most likely as preperation for the whole shooting match to go to a subs based model, not before time IMHO. I'd happily pay a subscription just for the radio - if they offer that.
dxg said:
I'd happily pay a subscription just for the radio - if they offer that.
How would that work in a car? Which is about the only time I might listen to the radio.As an aside, I lived in Italy in the '80s and when you bought your annual car tax, it would cost more for a car with a radio than one without. Of course it was up to you to say if you had a radio or not and I've never heard of anyone being done for not paying the extra when they should have.
You can imagine how many people actually stumped up the extra radio tax...
catso said:
dxg said:
I'd happily pay a subscription just for the radio - if they offer that.
How would that work in a car? Which is about the only time I might listen to the radio.As an aside, I lived in Italy in the '80s and when you bought your annual car tax, it would cost more for a car with a radio than one without. Of course it was up to you to say if you had a radio or not and I've never heard of anyone being done for not paying the extra when they should have.
You can imagine how many people actually stumped up the extra radio tax...
I don't have iplayer itself installed on anything, but I do have the iplayer radio app installed on all my mobile devices and I use it extensively, throwing it to various bluetooth speakers around the house.
catso said:
How would that work in a car? Which is about the only time I might listen to the radio.
Don't know - but there are some countries that operate car radio licence (e.g. Walloon region of Belgium).You need a separate licence for each car that has a radio.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_licence#B...
Moonhawk said:
Don't know - but there are some countries that operate car radio licence (e.g. Walloon region of Belgium).
You need a separate licence for each car that has a radio.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_licence#B...
Im sure you can get a CD or mp3 driven head unit to get round that if you don't listen to radio.You need a separate licence for each car that has a radio.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_licence#B...
pgh said:
But what they absolutely don't need is a licence to watch anything on Amazon Prime or Netflix.
Students can also watch 'live broadcast TV' on devices that are being powered by batteries as long as their parents residence has a TV licence (sometimes called the caravan exemption). Plug the device in though and then you need a licence for the property you are currently in.
Great guide here: http://tv-licensing.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/student...
This was mentioned a while back and I'm not sure it's correct. The argument went that you could watch without a licence whilst powering the device with its battery but if you plugged it in to charge and continued watching then you need to be licensed. Students can also watch 'live broadcast TV' on devices that are being powered by batteries as long as their parents residence has a TV licence (sometimes called the caravan exemption). Plug the device in though and then you need a licence for the property you are currently in.
Great guide here: http://tv-licensing.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/student...
The wording in the Act (from memory) is "..powered by an internal battery...". Well, surely if you have the phone/laptop plugged in it's still powered by its internal battery and not the mains? The mains is just charging the battery but the battery is still powering the device.
21TonyK said:
Ignoring the technicalities, all the Beeb are doing is breeding a generation who are not familiar and/or potentially adverse to their output.
Not a good idea IMHO.
It's odd you say that as nearly all other countries have a TV licence set up (similar cost if not more) without any BBC equivalent radio and TV programmes. Not a good idea IMHO.
More like an entire generation who have been brought up on the wonderful CBeebies and cbbc - commercial kids channels are utterly rubbish in comparison. They too will bring their kids up on that same output and adults generally have babies from 16 - 36 ish.smack bang in that age range your indicating.
Welshbeef said:
21TonyK said:
Ignoring the technicalities, all the Beeb are doing is breeding a generation who are not familiar and/or potentially adverse to their output.
Not a good idea IMHO.
It's odd you say that as nearly all other countries have a TV licence set up (similar cost if not more) without any BBC equivalent radio and TV programmes. Not a good idea IMHO.
More like an entire generation who have been brought up on the wonderful CBeebies and cbbc - commercial kids channels are utterly rubbish in comparison. They too will bring their kids up on that same output and adults generally have babies from 16 - 36 ish.smack bang in that age range your indicating.
21TonyK said:
But do those countries have the same as here in the UK where there is a free option as well? The problem here (as I see it) is that there is plenty of content available free of charge so whats the motivation to watch the BBC output (if as a student you are only watch odd bits on demand) if you have to pay near £15 a month for it?
No. This has been coveredctime and time again in these threads.
AJL308 said:
This was mentioned a while back and I'm not sure it's correct. The argument went that you could watch without a licence whilst powering the device with its battery but if you plugged it in to charge and continued watching then you need to be licensed.
The wording in the Act (from memory) is "..powered by an internal battery...". Well, surely if you have the phone/laptop plugged in it's still powered by its internal battery and not the mains? The mains is just charging the battery but the battery is still powering the device.
A laptop will still run on mains power if you remove the batteryThe wording in the Act (from memory) is "..powered by an internal battery...". Well, surely if you have the phone/laptop plugged in it's still powered by its internal battery and not the mains? The mains is just charging the battery but the battery is still powering the device.
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