Iplayer to need TV licence from 1/9/2016 - full fee required
Discussion
Edinburger said:
Yes - on the basis it's an irrelevant sum and excellent value.
I don't understand how anyone can live and consume zero BBC content.
I don't understand how you don't understand that it's possible to survive without any BBC content. For about 5 years I've been licence-free and watched the odd Top Gear when it was Clarkson and co and occasionally PMQs on iPlayer. Since Top Gear is now on Amazon that's fine and I can live withou PMQs.I don't understand how anyone can live and consume zero BBC content.
I barely saw any BBC content before and since the changes requiring a licence to watch iPlayer I've dropped it completely. It's been no loss at all.
The thing that should worry the BBC is that I'm far from unique.
Welshbeef said:
Cotty said:
and the value for the non consumer?
What sort of music and visuals do you enjoy: what genre?
Edited by Funk on Saturday 1st October 10:09
chrispmartha said:
Pesty said:
I listen to radio 4 but easily live without it.
There is nothing, nothing I watch on BBC to since top gear ended
And that was 6 shows a year did watch a May programme that was what 2-3 years ago? Nothing at all I want to watch, I don't even know what's on anyway. I don't have sky any more ( I chose not to pay) so no to guide.
Why is it so hard for some people to understand we don't like what you like. I have amazon and that's it.
It''s not hard to understand that people like different things, i think it's harder to understand why people say there's nothing on the BBC you would like, especially as you have just admitted you don't even know what is actually on it.There is nothing, nothing I watch on BBC to since top gear ended
And that was 6 shows a year did watch a May programme that was what 2-3 years ago? Nothing at all I want to watch, I don't even know what's on anyway. I don't have sky any more ( I chose not to pay) so no to guide.
Why is it so hard for some people to understand we don't like what you like. I have amazon and that's it.
Edited by Pesty on Friday 30th September 19:37
For example, I've spent the that few weeks catching up on Halt and Catch Fire on amazon, entirely at my convenience. Until last night, however, when I caught up to real time and now have to wait to Wednesday for the next episode. Now that's an unusual, unwanted and long-forgotten experience for someone like me!
Welshbeef said:
Cotty said:
and the value for the non consumer?
What sort of music and visuals do you enjoy: what genre?So I either download content from Amazon Prime things like Haven http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1519931/?ref_=nv_sr_1 and Lucifer http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4052886/?ref_=nv_sr_1 or i buy DVD's and copy them to my ipod. Some of the DVD's that I have purchased are produced by the BBC, so paying for the licence is like paying for them twice. Life on Mars, Death In Paradise, The Life Collection etc
Music wise im usually listening to some Dance & Electronic type stuff by DJ Tiestso, Paul Oakenfold and occasionly a bit of dubstep by Nit Grit. Maybe some chillstep like Electus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xfs0EmlhEl4 chucked in with some Pink Floyd. But I don't understand what that has to do with the BBC or TV Licence.
Edited by Cotty on Saturday 1st October 13:29
Cotty said:
But I don't understnd what that has to do with the BBC or TV Licence.
He's going to try to 'prove' that the BBC caters for you somehow. That due to the unique way it's funded they are across all genres of all entertainments and therefore have something for everyone and you should simply pay up.It's b
ks of course, but that won't stop him. 
Funk said:
Please don't try and tell me you're about to suggest the BBC is responsible for great music...
Actually it's one of the things they excell at, BBC introducing is fantastic for up and coming bands, and the coverage of Glastonbury is outstanding, plis BBC radio 3 is great.Edited by Funk on Saturday 1st October 10:09
Its a strange curcular argument, those that despise the BBC seem to think that anyone that thinks its good is a 'lefty' and chained to the corporation, when in reality most people occupy the middle ground and happily pay the license.
chrispmartha said:
Actually it's one of the things they excell at, BBC introducing is fantastic for up and coming bands, and the coverage of Glastonbury is outstanding, plis BBC radio 3 is great.
Its a strange curcular argument, those that despise the BBC seem to think that anyone that thinks its good is a 'lefty' and chained to the corporation, when in reality most people occupy the middle ground and happily pay the license.
Do not tar all of us with the same brush to try and make a point.Its a strange curcular argument, those that despise the BBC seem to think that anyone that thinks its good is a 'lefty' and chained to the corporation, when in reality most people occupy the middle ground and happily pay the license.
I do not 'despise' the BBC, I simply do not watch listen to much of its content. I pay the licence, but given a choice, I would not. I would pay for what I watch.
Funny, I have my box set of Richard Miles' 'Ancient Worlds' on earlier. In one scene, he is in an Italian bar, notices a framed picture of Lenin on the wall, and says, while holding his glass to the picture 'Ah, Lenin, Brava, Brava'! (I have nothing against Miles, I even own a few of his books, but he never expressed his favoured ideology in them..)
I bought my wife the entire box set of Waking the Dead, and in one scene, the Trever Eve character says something like 'private businesses are evil and public sector is good, everyone knows that...' Most, if not all of BBC drama and current affairs content is seemingly aimed specifically at the hallowed public sector - private sector seems to be always shown in a bad light, or ignored altogether.
There is this kind of stuff running through almost all of the BBC made box sets I have. I don't mind so much, but it does show that ideology certainly spills out and permeates through almost all BBC content these days. It never used to be so blatant, or perhaps as I have gotten older I have become more aware of it. I would prefer if there were no bias either way at all.
As for music, a lot of new and upcoming artists now use social media to great effect.
Cotty said:
Here is a good analogy road tax (or road fund licence etc) you only need to pay road tax if you use a car on the road. If you do not own a car you do not have to pay road tax. Or if you have a car that you do not use on the road you do not have to pay and you can declare it SORN (Statutory Off Road Notification). Some people in London do not own cars and use public transport to get around, the DVLA do not send enforcement officers round to check if they have a car. Even if they did you do not need the licence unless you are using it on a public road.
Not really you still need insurance even if the car is Sorn'd and in bits so you cant use it.!Toaster said:
Not really you still need insurance even if the car is Sorn'd and in bits so you cant use it.!
road tax (or road fund licence etc) is not insurance. You do not need insurance if the car is not being driven on the road. Insurance companies do no ask you to prove you are not using the car on the road. 
If you want to insure a car that is off the road that is entirely optional.
Cotty said:
road tax (or road fund licence etc) is not insurance. You do not need insurance if the car is not being driven on the road. Insurance companies do no ask you to prove you are not using the car on the road.
If you want to insure a car that is off the road that is entirely optional.
Spot on, thats my mistake I thought you had to Continuously insure even when a vehicle is SORN'd cleary not, thanks for putting me straight. If you want to insure a car that is off the road that is entirely optional.
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