Iplayer to need TV licence from 1/9/2016 - full fee required

[Welshbeef]

Funk said:

I didn't ask about Sky, Fox or HBO. How much of the BBC's output is repeats currently? Also forgive me for not knowing the latest on The Voice's status - I watched one once and never bothered again - but I recalled the BBC spending some £20m+ to get the rights to it.

Pointing at other broadcasters and saying, "...but they're crap too.." isn't an answer. Every once in a blue moon the BBC comes out with something brilliant ("The Night Manager" was superb, even if it needed AMC on board to deliver) but so much drivel is broadcast and across so many channels. Repeats are clearly the only way to fill the time.

Strip it back, tighten it up, produce intelligent, interesting and unique programming and I'd prepared to change my tune. What's clear is that not only are people like me (in my 30s) switching off, an entire generation below me isn't even switching on in the first place.

Carry on like this and in a couple of generations' time the BBC will be toast unless there is an ill-advised and immoral raid on our incomes to continue to fund the st gravy-train.

Edited by Funk on Friday 2nd September 16:43

Well you banged on about repeats - so it's ok for pay TV to show countless repeats but BBC not. Ok got you.

[Welshbeef]

Einion Yrth said:

Logically this exchange leads me to three possibilites:-

1) Welshbeef is an idiot.
2) Welshbeef is a manipulative arse who thinks we are all idiots.
3) Both 1 and 2

I think I dislike him even more than I did, because sadly I think 1 is the least likely.

You sir sound like a charming young lad you are.
Seems your take is if anyone disagrees with you you have an inability to debate so they are arses or idiots. As only your view can be correct.

Sad little young man - don't worry school is back soon.

[Welshbeef]

Funk said:

I don't have to pay for Sky if I only want to watch C4.

Do you only watch Ch4?

I'm confident they have repeats too.

[Welshbeef]

I think we should have the licence fee increases.

I want more people to watch latest films more sports from sky.
Just think the relative extra cost per person in the UK will be very small v full sky package.

Come on BBC up the fee buy these great HBO dramas have more channels and the sports too. Let's let the British BC take on the US BSKYB.

We want a fairer society. It's not fair that some can afford to watch sky sports and go to the cinema or sky box office let's all chip in together for the greater good.



Or let's nationalise BSKYB within UK.

[Welshbeef]

technodup said:

Welshbeef said:

We want a fairer society.

I couldn't give a fk about a fairer society tbh.

But heh, obvious troll is...

Are you suggesting Jeremy Corbyn is a troll

Obvious really.

[Welshbeef]

Cotty said:

21TonyK said:

IF,, just IF!! they said one licence per property they would all happily chuck in a couple of quid a month each. But, when they are told they have to have a licence per "room", ie. 9 x £145 for on house you can imagine the laughter.

They may not need one per room.

http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one...
What about shared student housing?
If a student has a separate tenancy agreement for their room, they will need to be covered by a separate licence.
If there's a joint tenancy agreement for the whole house – a common type of shared house arrangement – the occupants will probably only need one licence between them. But, if a student’s accommodation is self-contained, e.g. they pay for their own utilities or have their own entrance to the property, they may need their own licence.
If you're still not sure, check our advice for tenants and lodgers to find out more.

That was our situation at uni no room had Yale locks and it was one tenancy for he entire property. So the cost was literally peanuts

[Welshbeef]

21TonyK said:

Ignoring the technicalities, all the Beeb are doing is breeding a generation who are not familiar and/or potentially adverse to their output.

Not a good idea IMHO.

It's odd you say that as nearly all other countries have a TV licence set up (similar cost if not more) without any BBC equivalent radio and TV programmes.

More like an entire generation who have been brought up on the wonderful CBeebies and cbbc - commercial kids channels are utterly rubbish in comparison. They too will bring their kids up on that same output and adults generally have babies from 16 - 36 ish.smack bang in that age range your indicating.

[Welshbeef]

21TonyK said:

But do those countries have the same as here in the UK where there is a free option as well? The problem here (as I see it) is that there is plenty of content available free of charge so whats the motivation to watch the BBC output (if as a student you are only watch odd bits on demand) if you have to pay near £15 a month for it?

No.

This has been coveredctime and time again in these threads.

[Welshbeef]

All this noise for he sake that it's £12/PCM.

Put it into general taxation instead and lower the starting point of income tax so we all pay for it job done. Or if £12/PCM is so much for you get rid of the smart phone and your car too as you clearly cannot afford it.

[Welshbeef]

The BBC produce excellent shows and have exceptional talent throughout the organisation.
It is such good value for the consumer be it radio tv digital or on the go.

It truely is beyond reproach and long may that continue.

[Welshbeef]

Cotty said:

and the value for the non consumer?

What sort of music and visuals do you enjoy: what genre?