Black Lives Matter arrives in UK and shuts down M4

[FN2TypeR]

Mr Snrub said:

irocfan said:

Mr Snrub said:

And how to break the cycle? You won't stop carrying a gun because everyone else still will be, and as one of them pointed out the choice is between selling drugs, being on drugs or working for $8 an hour. Can't move anywhere else because they can't afford it, and the Police and rest of the city would rather contain them in one place. You're brought up to resent authority and surrounded by gangster rap that glamorises the lifestyle and is the only way to make money or escape

and what's wrong with working for minimum wage?

Because selling drugs is seen as easier, more profitable and more glamorous

Not if you end up in jail or beaten up/murdered it isn't

[Mr Snrub]

FN2TypeR said:

Mr Snrub said:

irocfan said:

Mr Snrub said:

And how to break the cycle? You won't stop carrying a gun because everyone else still will be, and as one of them pointed out the choice is between selling drugs, being on drugs or working for $8 an hour. Can't move anywhere else because they can't afford it, and the Police and rest of the city would rather contain them in one place. You're brought up to resent authority and surrounded by gangster rap that glamorises the lifestyle and is the only way to make money or escape

and what's wrong with working for minimum wage?

Because selling drugs is seen as easier, more profitable and more glamorous

Not if you end up in jail or beaten up/murdered it isn't

Except being in jail might be safer than the streets.....

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-prison-blacks-id...

[Digga]

The main interviewee and contact in the BBC video, himself an ex-gulf war serviceman, makes some compelling points;

1. You can innocently drive through a neighbourhood which is in a turf war and get shot, because they assume you're a drive-by shooter.
2. He's lived in countries all over the world and considers these parts of Chicago to now be third world.

Another of the interviewees says "it's like someone just dropped crates of guns in the neighbourhood", because he;s never seen so many people carrying or so heavily armed. He also says "there a few n****s need to die before it's going to get any better".

It is desperately sad and very worrying. There is no answer. This is the sort of escalation which proves why gun ownership laws do not work everywhere.

[Merc 450]

johnxjsc1985 said:

didn't Boris buy a Water canon ?. They need to be flushed away why not with a piece of equipment sitting there doing nothing.

Theresa may sold them just before the referendum my mate took them down to Le mans for what purpose he was not told

[johnxjsc1985]

Merc 450 said:

Theresa may sold them just before the referendum my mate took them down to Le mans for what purpose he was not told

Bugger it could have made Boris a visionary.

[dvs_dave]

mac96 said:

Digga said:

I've only just watched this article but the numbers are staggering, utterly appalling. Whilst there is, undoubtedly, horrific police brutality, there is also, sadly, a huge amount of black on black violence going on in some places.

This report, by the BBC, focuses on Chicago where, since 2001, 7916 people have been killed. Yes, they are mostly black.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/features...

So there is a real dichotemy; who to the police target to spot this and what can be done to stop targeting meaning one law for white and another for black?

That BBC video..
What must it be like for a police officer working in an environment where every young man you stop, or in any way interact with, is likely to have a strong dislike of you on principle as a police officer(perhaps worse if you are black), to be carrying an illegal gun, and to have several like minded friends nearby?

How could you retain a sense of proportion? How could you avoid seeing them as the enemy to be shot down before they kill you? Of course you should, but. If that report is even partly representative of some US communities the surprising thing is that the police can recruit at all.

As a direct result of BLM (and the media stoking the fire), the police have pulled back and the black-on-black murder rate has in turn absolutely soared.

It's ultimately a self defeating organization and the blood of thousands of young black men is on their hands because of their short sighted agenda and a complete inability to control their own communities without the aid of intrusive police tactics.

[Jimbeaux]

dvs_dave said:

As a direct result of BLM (and the media stoking the fire), the police have pulled back and the black-on-black murder rate has in turn absolutely soared.

It's ultimately a self defeating organization and the blood of thousands of young black men is on their hands because of their short sighted agenda and a complete inability to control their own communities without the aid of intrusive police tactics.

Sadly, this is spot on.

[55palfers]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3783834/Bl...

Nice to see taxpayers money being wisely spent (again!)

[PositronicRay]

55palfers said:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3783834/Bl...

Nice to see taxpayers money being wisely spent (again!)

Saw this today in the ST, quality.

[Biker 1]

Who decides on this stuff? Are there no proper checks & balances anymore??

[Digga]

Biker 1 said:

Who decides on this stuff? Are there no proper checks & balances anymore??

No idea, but they really do not inhabit the same planet, let alone country as the rest of us.

[Art0ir]

mac96 said:

That BBC video..
What must it be like for a police officer working in an environment where every young man you stop, or in any way interact with, is likely to have a strong dislike of you on principle as a police officer(perhaps worse if you are black), to be carrying an illegal gun, and to have several like minded friends nearby?

How could you retain a sense of proportion? How could you avoid seeing them as the enemy to be shot down before they kill you? Of course you should, but. If that report is even partly representative of some US communities the surprising thing is that the police can recruit at all.

I agree with Joe Rogan on this one.

No human being is qualified for the role of police officer in the US in 2016. Bring on Robocop.

[Mr Snrub]

All get given a slap on the wrist

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3788741/Bl...

You'd get a bigger punishment for putting two wheels into a bus lane

[Wobbegong]

Mr Snrub said:

All get given a slap on the wrist

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3788741/Bl...

You'd get a bigger punishment for putting two wheels into a bus lane

No surprise

[br d]

Absurd but unsurprising.

[Blaster72]

Anyone want to start a sweepstake on where they'll turn up next.

They've done

Heathrow
London City

my money is on Gatwick......

Are airports going to step up security before someone with more sinister intentions just climbs over the fence in broad daylight??

As for the "protesters" - they'll grow up eventually I suppose.

[irocfan]

Wobbegong said:

Mr Snrub said:

All get given a slap on the wrist

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3788741/Bl...

You'd get a bigger punishment for putting two wheels into a bus lane

No surprise

I'd like to say that I'm shocked and stunned (something these idiots should have been) but I guess it's par for the course. The problem now is that if a black or muslim group tries this and gets banged up.....

[Mr Snrub]

Blaster72 said:

Anyone want to start a sweepstake on where they'll turn up next.

They've done

Heathrow
London City

my money is on Gatwick......

Are airports going to step up security before someone with more sinister intentions just climbs over the fence in broad daylight??

As for the "protesters" - they'll grow up eventually I suppose.

JFK or LA X hopefully, see how our American friends deal with such a protest

[Dr Murdoch]

I don't understand:-

1. How they (white protesters) did not get a custodial sentence (18months is the max? + 5k fine?)
2. How the white woman in particular, didn't get a custodial sentence when this was her 2nd offence of this type (previously Heathrow)

[Greshamst]

William Pettifer, 27, of Radford; Esme Waldron, 23, Brighton; Natalie Fiennes, 25, of Wandsworth; Deborah Francis-Grayson, 31, of Slough; Richard Collet-White, 23, of Kempston; Ben Tippet, 24, of Wandsworth ;Alex Etchart, 26, and Sam Lund-Harket, 32.

cant get much whiter and middle-class with those names.