Is the Isle of Wight an "inbred, poor, white ghetto'?
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"The chairman of Ofsted is facing calls to resign after he said the Isle of Wight is an "inbred, poor, white ghetto".
David Hoare used the words to describe one of England’s worst-performing educational areas."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/2016/08/05/of...
David Hoare used the words to describe one of England’s worst-performing educational areas."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/2016/08/05/of...
In a nut shell: yes.
Some areas are very poor and the job market on the Island is small and seasonal. The expensive ferry tickets mean most people can't even think of looking to the mainland for work and commuting. If you have a well paid job you can, otherwise you're stuck. Its very similar to some of the North Yorkshire market towns; people either have plenty of money or none. Theres very little inbtween.
The inbred comments aren't wrong either, the village of Wroxall has a well deserved reputation on the Island. As does the West Wight, which is know to some as banjo country.
What I would like to have seen from the Islands leaders in responce to this was to admit they have an issue, and use it to get more funding. Funding they need. Instead they've gone into full denial mode.
Some areas are very poor and the job market on the Island is small and seasonal. The expensive ferry tickets mean most people can't even think of looking to the mainland for work and commuting. If you have a well paid job you can, otherwise you're stuck. Its very similar to some of the North Yorkshire market towns; people either have plenty of money or none. Theres very little inbtween.
The inbred comments aren't wrong either, the village of Wroxall has a well deserved reputation on the Island. As does the West Wight, which is know to some as banjo country.
What I would like to have seen from the Islands leaders in responce to this was to admit they have an issue, and use it to get more funding. Funding they need. Instead they've gone into full denial mode.
DMN said:
In a nut shell: yes.
Some areas are very poor and the job market on the Island is small and seasonal. The expensive ferry tickets mean most people can't even think of looking to the mainland for work and commuting. If you have a well paid job you can, otherwise you're stuck. Its very similar to some of the North Yorkshire market towns; people either have plenty of money or none. Theres very little inbtween.
The inbred comments aren't wrong either, the village of Wroxall has a well deserved reputation on the Island. As does the West Wight, which is know to some as banjo country.
What I would like to have seen from the Islands leaders in responce to this was to admit they have an issue, and use it to get more funding. Funding they need. Instead they've gone into full denial mode.
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Isle_of_WightSome areas are very poor and the job market on the Island is small and seasonal. The expensive ferry tickets mean most people can't even think of looking to the mainland for work and commuting. If you have a well paid job you can, otherwise you're stuck. Its very similar to some of the North Yorkshire market towns; people either have plenty of money or none. Theres very little inbtween.
The inbred comments aren't wrong either, the village of Wroxall has a well deserved reputation on the Island. As does the West Wight, which is know to some as banjo country.
What I would like to have seen from the Islands leaders in responce to this was to admit they have an issue, and use it to get more funding. Funding they need. Instead they've gone into full denial mode.
el stovey said:
It always seems odd when there are these deprived southern coastal areas in the U.K. Like the IOW or Kent or some parts of Devon.
They're on the coast they have great views, the weather is often better than average U.K. Weather, they ought to be fantastic places to live.
Agreed. I owned a couple of flats in Folkestone, one of them was a stones throw from the beach, and the harbour. On paper they should have been great flats. The reality was something different!They're on the coast they have great views, the weather is often better than average U.K. Weather, they ought to be fantastic places to live.
It was amazing how many large places with sea views were in a terrible state of repair, especially when you have the high speed link to london.
el stovey said:
It always seems odd when there are these deprived southern coastal areas in the U.K. Like the IOW or Kent or some parts of Devon.
They're on the coast they have great views, the weather is often better than average U.K. Weather, they ought to be fantastic places to live.
A lot of seaside towns have become benefit traps, with the B&Bs catering for out of town welfare claimants. It's not unique to the South; ask anyone from Blackpool or Scarbados (Scarborough for the uninitiated).They're on the coast they have great views, the weather is often better than average U.K. Weather, they ought to be fantastic places to live.
el stovey said:
It always seems odd when there are these deprived southern coastal areas in the U.K. Like the IOW or Kent or some parts of Devon.
They're on the coast they have great views, the weather is often better than average U.K. Weather, they ought to be fantastic places to live.
I think that virtually everywhere in the UK you will find some good and bad areas often much closer together than you might imagine.They're on the coast they have great views, the weather is often better than average U.K. Weather, they ought to be fantastic places to live.
For example:
Devon is for the most part lovely but then you remember Plymouth is in Devon.
I've just come back from a week in Pembrokeshire, South Wales which was beautiful but I suspect areas around the Milton Haven oil refinery weren't quite so nice. Port Talbot didn't look that glamorous on the way there either.
I grew up in the west of Berkshire which was very pleasant. But at the other end of the same county is Slough.
I've been fortunate to live in some nice places but all of them had either a sink estate or a neighbouring town that was a bit rough.
el stovey said:
It always seems odd when there are these deprived southern coastal areas in the U.K. Like the IOW or Kent or some parts of Devon.
They're on the coast they have great views, the weather is often better than average U.K. Weather, they ought to be fantastic places to live.
Slightly off topic useless bit of info/fact i always remember about these coastal towns is that 50% of the population is/are fish They're on the coast they have great views, the weather is often better than average U.K. Weather, they ought to be fantastic places to live.
Came about regarding an airport passenger study, if you draw a circle on a 10 mile radius around Liverpool airport and the same around Manchester airport much of your target market in Liverpool are fish so why expand it
That's the problem with coastal towns and the poor employment, etc. They only have half the area to commute to jobs in, the bulk of what is there is seasonal, and who wants to invest in infrastructure, etc, there that only has half the catchment of placing it elsewhere...
There's a lot of our coastal towns are drug-riddled s
tholes underneath the neon lights.
There's a lot of our coastal towns are drug-riddled s
tholes underneath the neon lights.B'stard Child said:
I went to Brighton at the weekend - couldn't believe the house prices and the state of the place in some areas..... To me the two did not equate!!
Brighton empties in the morning as the inhabitants head North to either London or Gatwick/Crawley. Evening residents' parking when they all return is chaotic.Until now the easy commute to London has, mostly, been responsible for the sky-high house prices. The ongoing rail dispute coupled with ever-increasing commuter numbers may have some interesting side effects.
B'stard Child said:
I went to Brighton at the weekend - couldn't believe the house prices and the state of the place in some areas..... To me the two did not equate!!
Most overrated place in the UK IMO.Expensive for everything, no where to park, crap beach and populated by some of the most pretentious people on earth.
And breath....
Whitby does have it's fair share of goths all year round. I quite like going there, some lovely hotels across from the Abbey.
We've done a semi ironic tour of seaside towns over the last year or so, mostly just weekends away, Brighton, Whitby, Cleethorpes, Skegness, Robin Hoods Bay, Mablethorpe, most of Anglesey and N Wales together with a lot of the west coast of scotland, We even went to Hull to see what that was like.
Ilfracombe was by far the nicest.
The problem that many seaside towns have, and we live near Morecambe so I feel reasonably qualified to say this, is that they're paces you go to, they're not generally places you want to stay in or live in. They look nice with good views, but once you're past that, there's not much else. Jobs in the area are largely tourist related, and you're at the mercy of everything else around you. For example, we wanted to go see the Humber Bridge, we wouldnt have found an ace little coffee shop that has boardgames (Called the Boardroom if you ever pass) if it wasnt for something else.
The problem for me is that, a bit like Ireland and the Isle of Man, as soon as you involve a sea crossing, it's more expensive than going to Europe, so you have to really want to go there. There isnt a big enough pull for us to try IoW because for the same money we could probably have 4/5 nights in Cyprus all inclusive. Guaranteed decent weather, decent accommodation, we get picked up from and dropped off at the airport. Whatever we want to do between then is up to us. I couldnt find enough to do on somewhere like IoW for that amount of time, it'd probably end up in board games in a cottage looking at the rain, so I dont feel a need to try it to see what it's like
We've done a semi ironic tour of seaside towns over the last year or so, mostly just weekends away, Brighton, Whitby, Cleethorpes, Skegness, Robin Hoods Bay, Mablethorpe, most of Anglesey and N Wales together with a lot of the west coast of scotland, We even went to Hull to see what that was like.
Ilfracombe was by far the nicest.
The problem that many seaside towns have, and we live near Morecambe so I feel reasonably qualified to say this, is that they're paces you go to, they're not generally places you want to stay in or live in. They look nice with good views, but once you're past that, there's not much else. Jobs in the area are largely tourist related, and you're at the mercy of everything else around you. For example, we wanted to go see the Humber Bridge, we wouldnt have found an ace little coffee shop that has boardgames (Called the Boardroom if you ever pass) if it wasnt for something else.
The problem for me is that, a bit like Ireland and the Isle of Man, as soon as you involve a sea crossing, it's more expensive than going to Europe, so you have to really want to go there. There isnt a big enough pull for us to try IoW because for the same money we could probably have 4/5 nights in Cyprus all inclusive. Guaranteed decent weather, decent accommodation, we get picked up from and dropped off at the airport. Whatever we want to do between then is up to us. I couldnt find enough to do on somewhere like IoW for that amount of time, it'd probably end up in board games in a cottage looking at the rain, so I dont feel a need to try it to see what it's like
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