A34 Tragic crash

[V8 Fettler]

Norfolk plod using unmarked bikes with cameras to "Clampdown on drivers using mobiles".

https://www.norfolk.police.uk/news/latest-news/cla...

[B'stard Child]

V8 Fettler said:

Norfolk plod using unmarked bikes with cameras to "Clampdown on drivers using mobiles".

https://www.norfolk.police.uk/news/latest-news/cla...

They don't need unmarked cars and bikes...... You could stick a policeman on foot 400 yrds from my house and he'd have a field day - it's in towns that the problem is worse to my mind - people equate low speed with low risk

[jmorgan]

V8 Fettler said:

Norfolk plod using unmarked bikes with cameras to "Clampdown on drivers using mobiles".

https://www.norfolk.police.uk/news/latest-news/cla...

Be interesting to see the results.

[Smollet]

B'stard Child said:

V8 Fettler said:

Norfolk plod using unmarked bikes with cameras to "Clampdown on drivers using mobiles".

https://www.norfolk.police.uk/news/latest-news/cla...

They don't need unmarked cars and bikes...... You could stick a policeman on foot 400 yrds from my house and he'd have a field day - it's in towns that the problem is worse to my mind - people equate low speed with low risk

Yup. Same where I live. They could make fortune during the school run.

[rambo19]

V8 Fettler said:

Norfolk plod using unmarked bikes with cameras to "Clampdown on drivers using mobiles".

https://www.norfolk.police.uk/news/latest-news/cla...

A bloody good idea, and long overdue, IMO.

[anonymous-user]

B'stard Child said:

...people equate low speed with low risk

That's because the road safety wonks and plod have pushed nothing but 'speed kills ' for 20 years

[B'stard Child]

fblm said:

B'stard Child said:

...people equate low speed with low risk

That's because the road safety wonks and plod have pushed nothing but 'speed kills ' for 20 years

Agreed

[PurpleTurtle]

Was travelling south on the M40 nr Banbury yesterday afternoon, several miles of crawling traffic as two lanes were closed due to a serious RTC, multiple fire engines and ambulances in attendance, one of the cars involved was so damaged that one of its back wheels was ripped clean off. All rather messy.

Despite everyone seeing the carnage close up, three miles after it some twonk in a blinged up white Q7 was then veering between lanes 2 and 3, texting at the wheel at 80mph. People's stupidity knows no bounds.

[llewop]

PurpleTurtle said:

People's stupidity knows no bounds.

very much the truth - all the discussion of the technology is almost irrelevant: individuals choose to be selfish/stupid/reckless/impatient. or all of the above

[Europa1]

llewop said:

PurpleTurtle said:

People's stupidity knows no bounds.

very much the truth - all the discussion of the technology is almost irrelevant: individuals choose to be selfish/stupid/reckless/impatient. or all of the above

Yep, sadly you're right. There was a fatal crash on the A14 near Cambridge a while back. The police ended prosecuting some motorists for filming the scene on their mobile phones as they drove past.

[Murph7355]

llewop said:

PurpleTurtle said:

People's stupidity knows no bounds.

very much the truth - all the discussion of the technology is almost irrelevant: individuals choose to be selfish/stupid/reckless/impatient. or all of the above

True. But to my mind this means giving the least distractions possible. Modern cars seem to be increasingly about providing ever more distraction, not less.

They should just fit them all with the devices that kill mobile phone signals, keeping the device active unless the engine is off. (I'd be reasonably happy if they did the same with the controls for the entertainment system too ).

I'm sure Clarkson or someone wrote similar years ago. How people drove more carefully in things like Escort MkIs as being in a pile up would almost certainly end in death impaled on the steering column, and how gluing a 12in spike pointing at the driver to the wheel boss would help road safety more than an airbag in the same place

[anonymous-user]

It's quite ironic that the 'safer' cars become (crash performance, airbags, better brakes, better handling etc.) the less safe the act of driving becomes.

Technology works both ways.

[Robertj21a]

Murph7355 said:

True. But to my mind this means giving the least distractions possible. Modern cars seem to be increasingly about providing ever more distraction, not less.

They should just fit them all with the devices that kill mobile phone signals, keeping the device active unless the engine is off. (I'd be reasonably happy if they did the same with the controls for the entertainment system too ).

I'm sure Clarkson or someone wrote similar years ago. How people drove more carefully in things like Escort MkIs as being in a pile up would almost certainly end in death impaled on the steering column, and how gluing a 12in spike pointing at the driver to the wheel boss would help road safety more than an airbag in the same place

Well said, a lot of common sense there.

[mac96]

Robertj21a said:

Murph7355 said:

True. But to my mind this means giving the least distractions possible. Modern cars seem to be increasingly about providing ever more distraction, not less.

They should just fit them all with the devices that kill mobile phone signals, keeping the device active unless the engine is off. (I'd be reasonably happy if they did the same with the controls for the entertainment system too ).

I'm sure Clarkson or someone wrote similar years ago. How people drove more carefully in things like Escort MkIs as being in a pile up would almost certainly end in death impaled on the steering column, and how gluing a 12in spike pointing at the driver to the wheel boss would help road safety more than an airbag in the same place

Well said, a lot of common sense there.

I promise you plenty of people drove Escort Mk1s anything but carefully.Along with Minis they were the lads car of choice in the late 60s and the 70s . And the statistics show what the result was.

It's much safer now- but the depressing difference is we seem to be in danger of letting the number of deaths and injuries increase again after decades of improvement.

[King Herald]

Utter stupid driving from where I live. See clowns doing this once a week or more. People die. Money changes hands, life goes on unpunished.......

https://www.facebook.com/jacobjulian.pinlac/videos...

[Welshbeef]

http://news.sky.com/story/possible-life-sentences-...

This might actually work.

However I'd not want someone who does accidentally kill someone whilst driving for say a tyre blow out or brake fail or awuaplaning or ice or whatever but use of the phone that real life sentence inline with murder should get people thinking very hard.

[King Herald]

When we moved to England in 2002 I was in an insurance shop getting quotes for fresh insurance, and over the phone I was stickybeaking a conversation "....so, insurance cover for a gentleman who has two counts of causing death by dangerous driving....."

WTF?

[Murph7355]

Welshbeef said:

http://news.sky.com/story/possible-life-sentences-...

This might actually work.

However I'd not want someone who does accidentally kill someone whilst driving for say a tyre blow out or brake fail or awuaplaning or ice or whatever but use of the phone that real life sentence inline with murder should get people thinking very hard.

Aquaplaning/ice are not avoidable in terms of having an "accident" as a result of them...

[Welshbeef]

Another crash on the A34 today same place.

Another one last week - same place.

[anonymous-user]

Welshbeef said:

Another crash on the A34 today same place.

Another one last week - same place.

You should slow down.