Everyone is so offended.

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irocfan

40,606 posts

191 months

Friday 19th August 2016
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mybrainhurts said:
Jimbeaux said:
irocfan said:
what made Britain great? The ability to be bigger bds than the other lot who wanted to be great
There is much true and profound in that simple phrase.yes
Except he doesn't understand the significance of Great in the context of Great Britain.
Hence 'great' rather than 'Great' - subtle difference I'm sure you will agree

PH XKR

1,761 posts

103 months

Friday 19th August 2016
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Randy Winkman said:
Is this really about people being offended, or just people having a different opinion? What's the point of posting anything if not to get some sort of response?
I got banned from a thread on the Lord Duke of Wimbourne Westminster death, I had not said anything offensive and yet because I couldn't care he had died because I don't know him, I got booted out of the thread. Then some muppet started on about do I not care about some member on here whose son had been diagnosed with cancer? Actually, I don't, I don't feel it is good news nor would I wish it upon anyone but I don't have any emotional bond so I don't actually care in much the same way I wouldn't expect strangers to care for my wellbeing.

The fact I said this chaps death wasn't news worthy got me kicked out of a thread which then the typical decent of insulters started having a go where I couldn't reply.

Mr Happy

5,698 posts

221 months

Friday 19th August 2016
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And you don't see anything wrong with what you did?

If you didn't care, why bother commenting? Commenting just to wave your e-peen around about how much you just don't care is trolling 101, normal people just don't bother clicking and move on.

Stopping you participating in the thread in this case is the correct thing to do, and the correct decision taken by the moderators.

PH XKR

1,761 posts

103 months

Friday 19th August 2016
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Because I felt it wasn't newsworthy, so I said it wasn't newsworthy when 1000s of other people die each day, its just we afford some sort of status to someone born into vast wealth. I don't buy in to that, I posted my opinion, if all you want to see is nothing bot agreement you'll soon end up in some sort of mutual love fest.

Randy Winkman

16,264 posts

190 months

Friday 19th August 2016
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I think some people just want to make a point.

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 19th August 2016
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Randy Winkman said:
I think some people just want to make a point.
I can see why you would think that
As regards the guy "not feeling" for Dukie's death. Roll back a few years well ok nearly 20. Many people were genuinely shocked about Dianas Death. Equally many were shocked about the "event" it became. They couldn't get the outpouring of gried/ borderline hysteria - take your pic, it provoked.

The way it seems now if the same thing was repeated happen those that didn't feel like signing a book of condolence or leaving flowers outside the Town hall might be castigated for it.
The guy above simply tells it how he sees it. He doesn't feel or care for someone completely unconnected from him born into wealth, he doesn't think it any more important than a "lesser" person dying.
He isn't evil, he isn't anti social, he isn't an outright bd. He is just what he is honest and comes across as true to himself.

MrBarry123

6,030 posts

122 months

Friday 19th August 2016
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Mr Happy said:
And you don't see anything wrong with what you did?

If you didn't care, why bother commenting? Commenting just to wave your e-peen around about how much you just don't care is trolling 101, normal people just don't bother clicking and move on.

Stopping you participating in the thread in this case is the correct thing to do, and the correct decision taken by the moderators.
Perhaps he was making a point that compared with much of the injustice in the world, a death of one Duke really isn't newsworthy?

ETA: XKR - I've just seen you made that exact point, should have read your previous comment properly!

Of course there are few people who you would wish death upon, the Duke certainly not being one of them, however having zero emotional feeling towards it isn't, in my opinion, a harsh reaction to have.

And furthermore, I feel exactly the same way as XKR i.e. I'm not happy he's died however I had no emotional response to the news.

Edited by MrBarry123 on Saturday 20th August 00:00

gruffalo

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7,543 posts

227 months

Saturday 20th August 2016
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PH XKR said:
Because I felt it wasn't newsworthy, so I said it wasn't newsworthy when 1000s of other people die each day, its just we afford some sort of status to someone born into vast wealth. I don't buy in to that, I posted my opinion, if all you want to see is nothing bot agreement you'll soon end up in some sort of mutual love fest.
I am with you, I will not expect to feel grief if someone Dies who I don't know and who never had a direct effect on my life.

Why would you?

All that jazz

7,632 posts

147 months

Saturday 20th August 2016
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techiedave said:
I can see why you would think that
As regards the guy "not feeling" for Dukie's death. Roll back a few years well ok nearly 20. Many people were genuinely shocked about Dianas Death. Equally many were shocked about the "event" it became. They couldn't get the outpouring of gried/ borderline hysteria - take your pic, it provoked.

The way it seems now if the same thing was repeated happen those that didn't feel like signing a book of condolence or leaving flowers outside the Town hall might be castigated for it.
The guy above simply tells it how he sees it. He doesn't feel or care for someone completely unconnected from him born into wealth, he doesn't think it any more important than a "lesser" person dying.
He isn't evil, he isn't anti social, he isn't an outright bd. He is just what he is honest and comes across as true to himself.
Well said Dave, my thoughts too. yes You see this kind of BS whenever some celeb dies with people crying nonstop for a week and needing to take a month off work to come to terms with it. Getting a fking grip ffs. rolleyes What is wrong with people? rolleyes

Randy Winkman

16,264 posts

190 months

Saturday 20th August 2016
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techiedave said:
He is just what he is honest and comes across as true to himself.
I often see people walking down the street with terrible clothes - but I don't tell them. smile

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 20th August 2016
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Randy Winkman said:
techiedave said:
He is just what he is honest and comes across as true to himself.
I often see people walking down the street with terrible clothes - but I don't tell them. smile
Fantastic I can wear my Bag Jeans in front of you next time I walk down Weaver Walk and know that you wont make remarks about them. But what if I was interviewing someone about looking trendy and was wearing them ? Would you say something out loud ?
What if I was sat with a bunch of friends in the pub or in the garden might you not say something then?

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 20th August 2016
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And I notice that a certain poster has removed his post that was of the typical "I am superior I know best" type that you tend to get on here. Personally I was happy to see it as it showed a bit of the bubbling contempt he/ she held.

Carrot

7,294 posts

203 months

Saturday 20th August 2016
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All that jazz said:
techiedave said:
I can see why you would think that
As regards the guy "not feeling" for Dukie's death. Roll back a few years well ok nearly 20. Many people were genuinely shocked about Dianas Death. Equally many were shocked about the "event" it became. They couldn't get the outpouring of gried/ borderline hysteria - take your pic, it provoked.

The way it seems now if the same thing was repeated happen those that didn't feel like signing a book of condolence or leaving flowers outside the Town hall might be castigated for it.
The guy above simply tells it how he sees it. He doesn't feel or care for someone completely unconnected from him born into wealth, he doesn't think it any more important than a "lesser" person dying.
He isn't evil, he isn't anti social, he isn't an outright bd. He is just what he is honest and comes across as true to himself.
Well said Dave, my thoughts too. yes You see this kind of BS whenever some celeb dies with people crying nonstop for a week and needing to take a month off work to come to terms with it. Getting a fking grip ffs. rolleyes What is wrong with people? rolleyes
Agreed, I was in my late teens when Diana died, and I remember going into work (pizza place) with the manageress wailing her eyes out. I had to manage the store that day as she couldn't take the grief rolleyes and had to go home.

It is sad when someone dies, especially young or through tragic circumstances, but if you don't know them it really is a bit... erm, ghoulish IMO to be openly wailing in the street...


StottyEvo

6,860 posts

164 months

Saturday 20th August 2016
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PH XKR said:
Randy Winkman said:
Is this really about people being offended, or just people having a different opinion? What's the point of posting anything if not to get some sort of response?
I got banned from a thread on the Lord Duke of Wimbourne Westminster death, I had not said anything offensive and yet because I couldn't care he had died because I don't know him, I got booted out of the thread. Then some muppet started on about do I not care about some member on here whose son had been diagnosed with cancer? Actually, I don't, I don't feel it is good news nor would I wish it upon anyone but I don't have any emotional bond so I don't actually care in much the same way I wouldn't expect strangers to care for my wellbeing.

The fact I said this chaps death wasn't news worthy got me kicked out of a thread which then the typical decent of insulters started having a go where I couldn't reply.
From your description it sounds like you were kicked out for having a complete lack of tact coffee

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 20th August 2016
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There are lots of interesting articles about declining empathy and increasing narcissism in young people. Perhaps this is the other side of the debate.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/wired-success...

Funkycoldribena

7,379 posts

155 months

Saturday 20th August 2016
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Think I might buy a mobile flower shop.

Randy Winkman

16,264 posts

190 months

Saturday 20th August 2016
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techiedave said:
Randy Winkman said:
techiedave said:
He is just what he is honest and comes across as true to himself.
I often see people walking down the street with terrible clothes - but I don't tell them. smile
Fantastic I can wear my Bag Jeans in front of you next time I walk down Weaver Walk and know that you wont make remarks about them. But what if I was interviewing someone about looking trendy and was wearing them ? Would you say something out loud ?
What if I was sat with a bunch of friends in the pub or in the garden might you not say something then?
Fair point. Perhaps not a great example. I think I was looking at it from the point of view that I dont care about the Duke of Westminster either but it never occurred to me to post about it on that thread.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Saturday 20th August 2016
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Funkycoldribena said:
Think I might buy a mobile flower shop.
Mobile flowers?

No...think of the mess they'd leave in their wake.

Bloody cats are bad enough...smile



PoleDriver

28,651 posts

195 months

Saturday 20th August 2016
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mybrainhurts said:
Funkycoldribena said:
Think I might buy a mobile flower shop.
Mobile flowers?

No...think of the mess they'd leave in their wake.

Bloody cats are bad enough...smile
Especially lilies! Getting those pollen stains out is a nightmare!

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Saturday 20th August 2016
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el stovey said:
There are lots of interesting articles about declining empathy and increasing narcissism in young people. Perhaps this is the other side of the debate.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/wired-success...
Please, not more bloody psychology...aka statin' the bleedin' obvious and getting paid for it...smile

PS...that offended me...hehe