Everyone is so offended.
Discussion
glazbagun said:
Jimbeaux said:
If often does. What is sure is that spreading another's wealth will certainly un inspire those who create it, leaving nothing to spread anyway.
The top 1% (that bad evgroup the left refers to) pay 43% of the nation's taxes, 50% pay none. Do that math.
Surely that's the way it should be (more or less) in a place you'd want to live. It would be a rubbish system if the poorest 50% were paying 43% of the tax and the top 1% paid none. The top 1% (that bad evgroup the left refers to) pay 43% of the nation's taxes, 50% pay none. Do that math.
JMGS4 said:
What I say to these whinging defeatists is "GROW SOME you whinging barstewards, you're NOT the people who made Britain Great!"
You do know the function of the Great prefix I assume, and it has nothing to do with a willingness to upset people on line.So what did make Great Britain great, if indeed it ever was?
We were a rich country in the immediate post industrial revolution days but very little of that filtered down to the masses. Much of that was by having a bigger navy to enforce our wishes on the world, and that included the slave trade as well. Bristol owed its prosperity to it.
We also invaded a significant proportion of the world, taking their riches and making them the inheritors of disputes when the borders we imposed were found to be unhelpful. We killed lots of people in battles, almost destroying the Zulu nation as one example. All the while those at the bottom of the pile in GB were all but slaves themselves.
What made GB great for the majority, the vast majority, of its population was universal suffrage, which to an extent stopped the privileged being in charge. So from the point of view of many I would suggest that great, as opposed to Great, Britain started less than 100 years ago.
What made GB great if you mean the industrial revolution - great for some, not so great for others - is, as some/many historians suggest, having a Dutch king and queen. We became a modern nation when we got rid of the likes of our home grown Tudors and Stewarts - the latter running away of course. So what's great about Great Britain? Holland. So nothing to do with allowing nasty people to be nasty to other people.
Derek Smith said:
You do know the function of the Great prefix I assume, and it has nothing to do with a willingness to upset people on line.
So what did make Great Britain great, if indeed it ever was?
We were a rich country in the immediate post industrial revolution days but very little of that filtered down to the masses. Much of that was by having a bigger navy to enforce our wishes on the world, and that included the slave trade as well. Bristol owed its prosperity to it.
We also invaded a significant proportion of the world, taking their riches and making them the inheritors of disputes when the borders we imposed were found to be unhelpful. We killed lots of people in battles, almost destroying the Zulu nation as one example. All the while those at the bottom of the pile in GB were all but slaves themselves.
What made GB great for the majority, the vast majority, of its population was universal suffrage, which to an extent stopped the privileged being in charge. So from the point of view of many I would suggest that great, as opposed to Great, Britain started less than 100 years ago.
What made GB great if you mean the industrial revolution - great for some, not so great for others - is, as some/many historians suggest, having a Dutch king and queen. We became a modern nation when we got rid of the likes of our home grown Tudors and Stewarts - the latter running away of course. So what's great about Great Britain? Holland. So nothing to do with allowing nasty people to be nasty to other people.
So what did make Great Britain great, if indeed it ever was?
We were a rich country in the immediate post industrial revolution days but very little of that filtered down to the masses. Much of that was by having a bigger navy to enforce our wishes on the world, and that included the slave trade as well. Bristol owed its prosperity to it.
We also invaded a significant proportion of the world, taking their riches and making them the inheritors of disputes when the borders we imposed were found to be unhelpful. We killed lots of people in battles, almost destroying the Zulu nation as one example. All the while those at the bottom of the pile in GB were all but slaves themselves.
What made GB great for the majority, the vast majority, of its population was universal suffrage, which to an extent stopped the privileged being in charge. So from the point of view of many I would suggest that great, as opposed to Great, Britain started less than 100 years ago.
What made GB great if you mean the industrial revolution - great for some, not so great for others - is, as some/many historians suggest, having a Dutch king and queen. We became a modern nation when we got rid of the likes of our home grown Tudors and Stewarts - the latter running away of course. So what's great about Great Britain? Holland. So nothing to do with allowing nasty people to be nasty to other people.
Derek Smith said:
JMGS4 said:
What I say to these whinging defeatists is "GROW SOME you whinging barstewards, you're NOT the people who made Britain Great!"
You do know the function of the Great prefix I assume, and it has nothing to do with a willingness to upset people on line.So what did make Great Britain great, if indeed it ever was?
We were a rich country in the immediate post industrial revolution days but very little of that filtered down to the masses. Much of that was by having a bigger navy to enforce our wishes on the world, and that included the slave trade as well. Bristol owed its prosperity to it.
We also invaded a significant proportion of the world, taking their riches and making them the inheritors of disputes when the borders we imposed were found to be unhelpful. We killed lots of people in battles, almost destroying the Zulu nation as one example. All the while those at the bottom of the pile in GB were all but slaves themselves.
What made GB great for the majority, the vast majority, of its population was universal suffrage, which to an extent stopped the privileged being in charge. So from the point of view of many I would suggest that great, as opposed to Great, Britain started less than 100 years ago.
What made GB great if you mean the industrial revolution - great for some, not so great for others - is, as some/many historians suggest, having a Dutch king and queen. We became a modern nation when we got rid of the likes of our home grown Tudors and Stewarts - the latter running away of course. So what's great about Great Britain? Holland. So nothing to do with allowing nasty people to be nasty to other people.
irocfan said:
to be fair though it is everywhere that people are professionally offended - places of higher education seem to be very high on that list. The very people you'd hope would have an open mind seem to be those most set against ideas that might challenge their thought processes
talking of being offended/SJWs/etc etc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oss7KmiHLmA
Love it. Trigglypuff is triggered beyond reason.talking of being offended/SJWs/etc etc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oss7KmiHLmA
The latest thing to cause offence are the promo shots for the BBC's great British bake off show.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/1623324/bbc-...
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/1623324/bbc-...
BlackLabel said:
The latest thing to cause offence are the promo shots for the BBC's great British bake off show.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/1623324/bbc-...
This is surely the pinnacle of PC madness?https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/1623324/bbc-...
Imagine the uproar if they had been given black and ginger icing...
BlackLabel said:
The latest thing to cause offence are the promo shots for the BBC's great British bake off show.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/1623324/bbc-...
His blue shirt looks really st.https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/1623324/bbc-...
I wonder if this particular recreational offense taking snake will ever eat it's own tail?
It seems to me, a casual observer and part time taker of offense, that whilst there is a certain section of the community who take offense regularly for little reason or the purposes of highlighting a cause slightly related, the section of the community who take offense to their offense taking is often larger, which leads to the reporting of offense taking for the purpose of creating recreational offense taking to the offense taking - which quite frankly I take offense to.
I think it's probably fair to say that all of this offense taking to the taking of offense and shrieks of "SJW" and "PC nonsense" are quite often shortcuts to close debates or prelims to adhoms which purport to be in response to the shortcuts and adhom attacks of the original offense takers who supposedly use them as a tool to shut down debates.
There is an easy way to not have arguments you don't want to have - just don't involve yourself, it's not compulsory to win an argument at all costs, especially with a stranger on twitter or whatever.
It seems to me, a casual observer and part time taker of offense, that whilst there is a certain section of the community who take offense regularly for little reason or the purposes of highlighting a cause slightly related, the section of the community who take offense to their offense taking is often larger, which leads to the reporting of offense taking for the purpose of creating recreational offense taking to the offense taking - which quite frankly I take offense to.
I think it's probably fair to say that all of this offense taking to the taking of offense and shrieks of "SJW" and "PC nonsense" are quite often shortcuts to close debates or prelims to adhoms which purport to be in response to the shortcuts and adhom attacks of the original offense takers who supposedly use them as a tool to shut down debates.
There is an easy way to not have arguments you don't want to have - just don't involve yourself, it's not compulsory to win an argument at all costs, especially with a stranger on twitter or whatever.
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