Everyone is so offended.

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Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

232 months

Monday 15th August 2016
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glazbagun said:
Jimbeaux said:
If often does. What is sure is that spreading another's wealth will certainly un inspire those who create it, leaving nothing to spread anyway.

The top 1% (that bad evgroup the left refers to) pay 43% of the nation's taxes, 50% pay none. Do that math.
Surely that's the way it should be (more or less) in a place you'd want to live. It would be a rubbish system if the poorest 50% were paying 43% of the tax and the top 1% paid none.
I agree in priciple. My point is that the left makes out that the richest pay nothing and the poorer are the burdened when it comes to taxes. That is clearly not the case. We should not cross the line of penalizing success so those who are successful don't give up being so.

Derek Smith

45,703 posts

249 months

Monday 15th August 2016
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JMGS4 said:
What I say to these whinging defeatists is "GROW SOME you whinging barstewards, you're NOT the people who made Britain Great!"
You do know the function of the Great prefix I assume, and it has nothing to do with a willingness to upset people on line.

So what did make Great Britain great, if indeed it ever was?

We were a rich country in the immediate post industrial revolution days but very little of that filtered down to the masses. Much of that was by having a bigger navy to enforce our wishes on the world, and that included the slave trade as well. Bristol owed its prosperity to it.

We also invaded a significant proportion of the world, taking their riches and making them the inheritors of disputes when the borders we imposed were found to be unhelpful. We killed lots of people in battles, almost destroying the Zulu nation as one example. All the while those at the bottom of the pile in GB were all but slaves themselves.

What made GB great for the majority, the vast majority, of its population was universal suffrage, which to an extent stopped the privileged being in charge. So from the point of view of many I would suggest that great, as opposed to Great, Britain started less than 100 years ago.

What made GB great if you mean the industrial revolution - great for some, not so great for others - is, as some/many historians suggest, having a Dutch king and queen. We became a modern nation when we got rid of the likes of our home grown Tudors and Stewarts - the latter running away of course. So what's great about Great Britain? Holland. So nothing to do with allowing nasty people to be nasty to other people.




irocfan

40,541 posts

191 months

Monday 15th August 2016
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what made Britain great? The ability to be bigger bds than the other lot who wanted to be great

andy_s

19,405 posts

260 months

Monday 15th August 2016
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Every dog has their day, the Romans, Chinese, Turks, Moors, Spanish, Russians... greatness is temporal.

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

232 months

Monday 15th August 2016
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irocfan said:
what made Britain great? The ability to be bigger bds than the other lot who wanted to be great
There is much true and profound in that simple phrase.yes

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

101 months

Monday 15th August 2016
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irocfan said:
what made Britain great? The ability to be bigger bds than the other lot who wanted to be great
Isn't it the fact that Britain is bigger than Brittany?

PugwasHDJ80

7,529 posts

222 months

Monday 15th August 2016
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The difficulty with forums is that the posts lack of the nuance of everyday language, so you can't really tell what someones intention is behind a certain phrase- are they angry, funny, tongue ni cheek, deadly serious etc et

i read some of my posts from years ago and cringe!

cloggy

4,959 posts

210 months

Monday 15th August 2016
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Derek Smith said:
You do know the function of the Great prefix I assume, and it has nothing to do with a willingness to upset people on line.

So what did make Great Britain great, if indeed it ever was?

We were a rich country in the immediate post industrial revolution days but very little of that filtered down to the masses. Much of that was by having a bigger navy to enforce our wishes on the world, and that included the slave trade as well. Bristol owed its prosperity to it.

We also invaded a significant proportion of the world, taking their riches and making them the inheritors of disputes when the borders we imposed were found to be unhelpful. We killed lots of people in battles, almost destroying the Zulu nation as one example. All the while those at the bottom of the pile in GB were all but slaves themselves.

What made GB great for the majority, the vast majority, of its population was universal suffrage, which to an extent stopped the privileged being in charge. So from the point of view of many I would suggest that great, as opposed to Great, Britain started less than 100 years ago.

What made GB great if you mean the industrial revolution - great for some, not so great for others - is, as some/many historians suggest, having a Dutch king and queen. We became a modern nation when we got rid of the likes of our home grown Tudors and Stewarts - the latter running away of course. So what's great about Great Britain? Holland. So nothing to do with allowing nasty people to be nasty to other people.
bowtie

Randy Winkman

16,179 posts

190 months

Monday 15th August 2016
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Derek Smith said:
JMGS4 said:
What I say to these whinging defeatists is "GROW SOME you whinging barstewards, you're NOT the people who made Britain Great!"
You do know the function of the Great prefix I assume, and it has nothing to do with a willingness to upset people on line.

So what did make Great Britain great, if indeed it ever was?

We were a rich country in the immediate post industrial revolution days but very little of that filtered down to the masses. Much of that was by having a bigger navy to enforce our wishes on the world, and that included the slave trade as well. Bristol owed its prosperity to it.

We also invaded a significant proportion of the world, taking their riches and making them the inheritors of disputes when the borders we imposed were found to be unhelpful. We killed lots of people in battles, almost destroying the Zulu nation as one example. All the while those at the bottom of the pile in GB were all but slaves themselves.

What made GB great for the majority, the vast majority, of its population was universal suffrage, which to an extent stopped the privileged being in charge. So from the point of view of many I would suggest that great, as opposed to Great, Britain started less than 100 years ago.

What made GB great if you mean the industrial revolution - great for some, not so great for others - is, as some/many historians suggest, having a Dutch king and queen. We became a modern nation when we got rid of the likes of our home grown Tudors and Stewarts - the latter running away of course. So what's great about Great Britain? Holland. So nothing to do with allowing nasty people to be nasty to other people.
I'm sure someone will find fault somewhere, but I like that.

AH33

2,066 posts

136 months

Wednesday 17th August 2016
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irocfan said:
to be fair though it is everywhere that people are professionally offended - places of higher education seem to be very high on that list. The very people you'd hope would have an open mind seem to be those most set against ideas that might challenge their thought processes


talking of being offended/SJWs/etc etc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oss7KmiHLmA
Love it. Trigglypuff is triggered beyond reason.

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

124 months

Wednesday 17th August 2016
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The latest thing to cause offence are the promo shots for the BBC's great British bake off show. laugh






https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/1623324/bbc-...

Foliage

3,861 posts

123 months

Wednesday 17th August 2016
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How dare you tell me im offended

InductionRoar

2,014 posts

133 months

Wednesday 17th August 2016
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BlackLabel said:
The latest thing to cause offence are the promo shots for the BBC's great British bake off show. laugh






https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/1623324/bbc-...
This is surely the pinnacle of PC madness?

Imagine the uproar if they had been given black and ginger icing... rolleyes

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

124 months

Wednesday 17th August 2016
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InductionRoar said:
This is surely the pinnacle of PC madness?

Imagine the uproar if they had been given black and ginger icing... rolleyes
And because we bow down to such nutters (the Bbc apologised and removed the images) the problem just gets worse.

AH33

2,066 posts

136 months

Wednesday 17th August 2016
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Bake off is st.

Likes Fast Cars

2,772 posts

166 months

Wednesday 17th August 2016
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BlackLabel said:
The latest thing to cause offence are the promo shots for the BBC's great British bake off show. laugh






https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/1623324/bbc-...
His blue shirt looks really st.

Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Wednesday 17th August 2016
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Likes Fast Cars said:
His blue shirt looks really st.
Obviously Scottish? Too much ginger?

Likes Fast Cars

2,772 posts

166 months

Wednesday 17th August 2016
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Jockman said:
Likes Fast Cars said:
His blue shirt looks really st.
Obviously Scottish? Too much ginger?
Hey I'm 1/4 Scottish!

Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Wednesday 17th August 2016
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Likes Fast Cars said:
Hey I'm 1/4 Scottish!
Go on....which quarter....?

FredClogs

14,041 posts

162 months

Wednesday 17th August 2016
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I wonder if this particular recreational offense taking snake will ever eat it's own tail?

It seems to me, a casual observer and part time taker of offense, that whilst there is a certain section of the community who take offense regularly for little reason or the purposes of highlighting a cause slightly related, the section of the community who take offense to their offense taking is often larger, which leads to the reporting of offense taking for the purpose of creating recreational offense taking to the offense taking - which quite frankly I take offense to.

I think it's probably fair to say that all of this offense taking to the taking of offense and shrieks of "SJW" and "PC nonsense" are quite often shortcuts to close debates or prelims to adhoms which purport to be in response to the shortcuts and adhom attacks of the original offense takers who supposedly use them as a tool to shut down debates.

There is an easy way to not have arguments you don't want to have - just don't involve yourself, it's not compulsory to win an argument at all costs, especially with a stranger on twitter or whatever.