Families need more help with tackling childhood obesity?!
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Cereals, I do like 'em, but I rarely eat them. Most cereals are the equivalent of having sherbet dabs for a meal.
Derek, look at Fleetneedles Forage on facebook. It's amazing how there is stuff in the garden that can help most things.
And if your perspiration is up, make sure you take something like diorlyte to replace the electrolytes.
Derek, look at Fleetneedles Forage on facebook. It's amazing how there is stuff in the garden that can help most things.
And if your perspiration is up, make sure you take something like diorlyte to replace the electrolytes.
Halb said:
Cereals, I do like 'em, but I rarely eat them. Most cereals are the equivalent of having sherbet dabs for a meal.
I noticed this too. Even the stuff advertised as healthy really isn't. The sugar content is always through the roof!I just settle on 300ml of milk with a scoop each of whey and casein mixed in a shake. I am sat on my arse most of the day, the last thing I need is unwanted carbs and especially sugar...
chris watton said:
Halb said:
Cereals, I do like 'em, but I rarely eat them. Most cereals are the equivalent of having sherbet dabs for a meal.
I noticed this too. Even the stuff advertised as healthy really isn't. The sugar content is always through the roof!I just settle on 300ml of milk with a scoop each of whey and casein mixed in a shake. I am sat on my arse most of the day, the last thing I need is unwanted carbs and especially sugar...
jjlynn27 said:
otolith said:
Did you weigh the cereal? And the rice?
This really pisses me off. This is a still from an Alpen advert.
This is an actual official sized portion of the stuff, 140-ish calories of it - the bowl on the right.
Easy to see how people pour themselves a 500 calorie breakfast without even being aware of it.
Seems to me that you had a breakfast of mostly starch and sugar, a lunch of starch and a little bit of protein and a dinner of more starch and sugar. You might find that you are less hungry if you eat less carbohydrate, less sugar and more protein.
Not much to add, but thanks for posting that, my bowl portions of cereals was nothing like those. Again, thanks. This really pisses me off. This is a still from an Alpen advert.
This is an actual official sized portion of the stuff, 140-ish calories of it - the bowl on the right.
Easy to see how people pour themselves a 500 calorie breakfast without even being aware of it.
Seems to me that you had a breakfast of mostly starch and sugar, a lunch of starch and a little bit of protein and a dinner of more starch and sugar. You might find that you are less hungry if you eat less carbohydrate, less sugar and more protein.
That said, isn't Alpen a 'pretend' healthy food?
I mix rice crispies, cornflakes and all bran (1/3rds) and have FF milk. I check that the bran I buy is the most cardboard version you can get (many are spiked with salt and sugar to make them have a 'more paletable' taste which just ruins them imo)
I then rotate between mix cereal, decent multi-seed bread toasted (from local bakers, buttered), and porridge (slow microwaved scottish oats in milk + some honey).
They're all quick to do, cost sod all, fill me up till lunch even when I'm working physically all morning, and probably sub 500 calories per breakfast.
Paying £££ for those stupid 'healthy' cereals that aren't is bonkers.
Mr Whippy said:
If the tiny portion is 140 calories, and you need ~ 2500 calories a day, then I'm sure you can have a huge bowl for breakfast and be fine.
Yes, on the same basis you can have nine Mars bars for breakfast and be OK.The point is that very many people systematically overeat. And we have an obesity problem. And we have cereal manufacturers quoting portion sizes that nobody understands to be a portion, not least because the adverts show a f
king great bowl of it. That's the problem with trying to pin the problem on one factor - it's many factors. It's not the fizzy drink, or the oversized cereal portion, or the 190 calorie cups of coffee, or the bits of crisps or biscuits or chocolate between meals, or the take-out or lack of portion control or the pint or glass of wine - it's all of them, cumulatively.otolith said:
Mr Whippy said:
If the tiny portion is 140 calories, and you need ~ 2500 calories a day, then I'm sure you can have a huge bowl for breakfast and be fine.
Yes, on the same basis you can have nine Mars bars for breakfast and be OK.The point is that very many people systematically overeat. And we have an obesity problem. And we have cereal manufacturers quoting portion sizes that nobody understands to be a portion, not least because the adverts show a f
king great bowl of it. That's the problem with trying to pin the problem on one factor - it's many factors. It's not the fizzy drink, or the oversized cereal portion, or the 190 calorie cups of coffee, or the bits of crisps or biscuits or chocolate between meals, or the take-out or lack of portion control or the pint or glass of wine - it's all of them, cumulatively.If it is a bowl of cereal (with milk of course), a latte and a banana then you can get well over 500 calories very easily.
Something I read that really drove it all home to me was on Quora where the question was "how do rich people/celebrities stay thin?"
The best reply was:
"For those who look like (or are) on the front page of magazines, they eat ABSOLUTELY TINY portions. Almost nothing - you would be shocked to see the size of those portions."
So they would be having that cereal with fat-free milk and a black americano I would guess!
How do rich people/celebs stay thin?
There entire existence, income, lifestyle relies on them looking good.
For many it's a fulltime job.
Gruelling workouts with a PT every day.
Micro managed diets.
Hair, nails, skin all receive the spa treatment.
Lipo, cosmetic surgery, laser treatment, botox, tanning.
And many use drugs that the IOC would not allow as well as recreational stuff that ups the metabolism.
Plus they are decent looking people to start with.
I'm talking about the TOWIE types.
This thread is about Obesity and once again it's giving far too many different opinions and getting into the debate about which milk is best and such.
The people i see waddling around are not like that because of a lack of knowledge about nutrition.
They are like it because they are lazy, lack any self control and like eating lots of food.
Educate them all you like it won't make a bit of difference. They know a banana is preferable to a kitKat and a Chicken salad is better than a Dominos but they can't be arsed.
There entire existence, income, lifestyle relies on them looking good.
For many it's a fulltime job.
Gruelling workouts with a PT every day.
Micro managed diets.
Hair, nails, skin all receive the spa treatment.
Lipo, cosmetic surgery, laser treatment, botox, tanning.
And many use drugs that the IOC would not allow as well as recreational stuff that ups the metabolism.
Plus they are decent looking people to start with.
I'm talking about the TOWIE types.
This thread is about Obesity and once again it's giving far too many different opinions and getting into the debate about which milk is best and such.
The people i see waddling around are not like that because of a lack of knowledge about nutrition.
They are like it because they are lazy, lack any self control and like eating lots of food.
Educate them all you like it won't make a bit of difference. They know a banana is preferable to a kitKat and a Chicken salad is better than a Dominos but they can't be arsed.
Edited by Thankyou4calling on Tuesday 23 August 10:30
I think that too many people with fairly sedentary lifestyles severely overestimate their daily calorie requirements, also many do not have a clue what damage a lot of the crap they eat during the day can do. I was amazed at just how little I need, calorie-wise, even training 6 times per week for 90 minutes a session (around 2000 per day for me, at 5'7" and 72kg)
At my wife's place of work, she tells me that most of the workers there (sitting behind a desk all day) have an all day breakfast roll in the morning, from the local burger van, and then a KFC or McDonalds for dinner, and then (presumably), a meal when they get home. I can understand manual labourers eating like that, but not office-bound staff.
At my wife's place of work, she tells me that most of the workers there (sitting behind a desk all day) have an all day breakfast roll in the morning, from the local burger van, and then a KFC or McDonalds for dinner, and then (presumably), a meal when they get home. I can understand manual labourers eating like that, but not office-bound staff.
chris watton said:
At my wife's place of work, she tells me that most of the workers there (sitting behind a desk all day) have an all day breakfast roll in the morning, from the local burger van, and then a KFC or McDonalds for dinner, and then (presumably), a meal when they get home. I can understand manual labourers eating like that, but not office-bound staff.
I've worked in places like that; apart from the crap they are eating, it astounds me how anyone can afford to eat like that. Worked with a guy; skinny thing, who when he arrived in the morning would pop over the road and buy two large bags of Haribo and 2 energy drinks; Monster usually, this was his breakfast.
He would be bouncing off the walls for 30 or so minutes and then be a miserable sod until lunchtime, then he'd pop out and buy some crap such as a McDonlads, or a KFC, after eating that, an hour later it was back to the garage over the road for his afternoon fix of Haribo and Monster.
He did this daily, he was skinny but early 20's so yet to catch up with him, however even though he was a good looking guy he had awful skin and colour.
Halb said:
It partiality is lack of knowledge. More well off types are more likely to know/lead a nutritional life.
There is a correlation with socioeconomic status, but I've seen some porky sorts on a City trading floor before now. I think a lot of middle aged men get fat when the lifestyle they could live with in their twenties catches up with them. Metabolic changes, for sure, but possibly also family commitments reducing the amount of time they have for themselves.otolith said:
There is a correlation with socioeconomic status, but I've seen some porky sorts on a City trading floor before now. I think a lot of middle aged men get fat when the lifestyle they could live with in their twenties catches up with them. Metabolic changes, for sure, but possibly also family commitments reducing the amount of time they have for themselves.
Yeah, couplehood has an effect as well, unless you're both gym bunnies. 
HTP99 said:
He did this daily, he was skinny but early 20's so yet to catch up with him, however even though he was a good looking guy he had awful skin and colour.
Yarp, one thing a crap diet will do is make you look crappy. The council estate pallour. I just eat loads of veg with a bit of meat. I like to eat things that are as close to natural as possible as a general rule.
I find if i stuff myself with vegetables i'm too full to snack.
Recently got into road cycling this seems to be really helping remove the chub.
Breakfast is fruit with full fat Greek yogurt (blueberries, raspberries, banana, apple, strawberry's)
elevenses protein shake to fill me up stop me eating crap.
Lunch rice. Loads of veg, mixed in with some brown rice, paprika, garlic, with some meat, normally tuna, today chicken and chorizo.
Tea, shepherds pie. Loads and loads of veg mixed in with some beef mince. Tiny amount of mash potato on top.
I cook everything from scratch with a big emphasis on eating loads and loads of veg at any meal.
Recently i have cut out all extra sugars. For 3 weeks now i have been having a cup of tea/coffee with no sugar.
Where i fall down is white bread i get very addicted to it. I just have to completely ignore bread all together.
I find if i stuff myself with vegetables i'm too full to snack.
Recently got into road cycling this seems to be really helping remove the chub.
Breakfast is fruit with full fat Greek yogurt (blueberries, raspberries, banana, apple, strawberry's)
elevenses protein shake to fill me up stop me eating crap.
Lunch rice. Loads of veg, mixed in with some brown rice, paprika, garlic, with some meat, normally tuna, today chicken and chorizo.
Tea, shepherds pie. Loads and loads of veg mixed in with some beef mince. Tiny amount of mash potato on top.
I cook everything from scratch with a big emphasis on eating loads and loads of veg at any meal.
Recently i have cut out all extra sugars. For 3 weeks now i have been having a cup of tea/coffee with no sugar.
Where i fall down is white bread i get very addicted to it. I just have to completely ignore bread all together.
Mr_B said:
Diane Abbott responds to the government’s obesity strategy:
“Obesity is ruining the quality of life for growing numbers of people… this Tory Government are failing to take the obesity crisis seriously”
Hmmm? Taking dietry/lifestyle advice from Diane Abbot to combat obesity? Let's take a moment to consider the wisdom of that!“Obesity is ruining the quality of life for growing numbers of people… this Tory Government are failing to take the obesity crisis seriously”
ChunkyloverSV said:
I just eat loads of veg with a bit of meat. I like to eat things that are as close to natural as possible as a general rule.
I find if i stuff myself with vegetables i'm too full to snack.
Recently got into road cycling this seems to be really helping remove the chub.
Breakfast is fruit with full fat Greek yogurt (blueberries, raspberries, banana, apple, strawberry's)
elevenses protein shake to fill me up stop me eating crap.
Lunch rice. Loads of veg, mixed in with some brown rice, paprika, garlic, with some meat, normally tuna, today chicken and chorizo.
Tea, shepherds pie. Loads and loads of veg mixed in with some beef mince. Tiny amount of mash potato on top.
I cook everything from scratch with a big emphasis on eating loads and loads of veg at any meal.
Recently i have cut out all extra sugars. For 3 weeks now i have been having a cup of tea/coffee with no sugar.
Where i fall down is white bread i get very addicted to it. I just have to completely ignore bread all together.
Bread has been my downfall in the past, I'm almost completely off it now, just three eggs scrambled for breakfast and a home made chicken salad and fruit for lunch, 90% of our evening meals are from scratch too so no nasties. I find if i stuff myself with vegetables i'm too full to snack.
Recently got into road cycling this seems to be really helping remove the chub.
Breakfast is fruit with full fat Greek yogurt (blueberries, raspberries, banana, apple, strawberry's)
elevenses protein shake to fill me up stop me eating crap.
Lunch rice. Loads of veg, mixed in with some brown rice, paprika, garlic, with some meat, normally tuna, today chicken and chorizo.
Tea, shepherds pie. Loads and loads of veg mixed in with some beef mince. Tiny amount of mash potato on top.
I cook everything from scratch with a big emphasis on eating loads and loads of veg at any meal.
Recently i have cut out all extra sugars. For 3 weeks now i have been having a cup of tea/coffee with no sugar.
Where i fall down is white bread i get very addicted to it. I just have to completely ignore bread all together.
At the moment however I'm holidaying in Sardinia; bread with everything, lots of cheese and meats.
I don't have a sweet tooth so sugar isn't an issue for me.
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