Families need more help with tackling childhood obesity?!

[Foliage]

Adrian W said:

its great to see so many righteous experts on here, its simple eat less etc etc, however the real problem must be the vested interests, otherwise why not just make it illegal for any business to sell crap food.

Black market burgers anyone?

says it all that you think burgers are bad for you and the cause of the problem..

[Digga]

Otispunkmeyer said:

Its not even about doing some exercise. SImply eat less.

bks.

By telling people that, you;re ignoring the holistic consensus which says even if we are not overweight, modern sedentary life (especially for us office wallahs) is incredibly unhealthy.

Also, turning the food vs. exercise debate on it's head, when I used to race cross-country mtb, the calories i needed were ridiculous. So there is little doubt that expending energy is a bit part - along with eating clean - of healthy lifestyle.

[anonymous-user]

Sticks. said:

snotrag said:

The blame for fat kids lies solely with the parents/carers.

Turkey Twizzlers.

Yeah right The kids school has just started offering Krispy Kreme donuts ffs, I despair when I look on parentpay and see the sh!t they are providing.
But hey the private school caterers can make the money instead of the local shops. (And yes I know about packed lunches before you start on that one.)

[Burwood]

sugerbear said:

HTP99 said:

Adrian W said:

its great to see so many righteous experts on here, its simple eat less etc etc, however the real problem must be the vested interests, otherwise why not just make it illegal for any business to sell crap food.

Black market burgers anyone?

Eat less and eat correctly, it isn't hard, you can have a Burger, you can have a bacon sarnie, you can have crisps, you can have cheese, but not every single day and not in vast quantities.

Walk to to school, walk to the shops, take the stairs as opposed to the lift.

It ain't hard.

But clearly it is. Otherwise children wouldn't be getting fatter. Banning food adverts on TV would be a great way to start the reversal of bad eating habits.

Ban things? I don't think so. Ever seen a parent put coke in a baby bottle. A bottle designed for milk. You know, babies use them? Or should we just ban FF coke? I rarely get caught out by sneaky food labels and some manufacturers do take the piss with this fat free BS then load it with sugar and salt. Times are changing but obesity is getting worse. I have a friend who must be 250 kg. He denies eating st food in truck sized portions but he does. His penchant, cheese and bread. He can eat a loaf of bread, nothing on it, just bread. He wolfs down cheese in 250g portions. We do all take the piss out of him on occasion. He doesn't drink but decided to drink beer at a bbq. He downed 10 cans of lager in 30 mins and threw his food up. The sausages he had eaten, at least 10, all came up whole, well in halves. He just swallows his food-inhales it. He also sts himself on a weekly basis and doesn't even know he's done it. I kid you not. He doesn't think he has a problem and won't change. He too was fat as a kid.

[walm]

HTP99 said:

It ain't hard.

It is hard.
Particularly once you have built up bad habits.

If it were easy then the multi-billion-pound diet industry wouldn't exist and I would have a 6-pack on my torso, not in my fridge.

Don't forget that for many people (including me sometimes) the highlight of a day of drudgery is rewarding yourself with a food/drink treat. A glass of wine over dinner or ice cream for desert.
That can quickly become a bottle of wine and a tub of ice cream.

The "fk-it I'll get back on track tomorrow" mentality is VERY hard to beat, IMHO.

As for kids, do not underestimate the power of a whinging child.
As I said before, without a kinder egg advert on the telly, they won't be whinging for a kinder egg!
The government CAN help. Just like they do with fags.

[130R]

It takes willpower not to stuff your face with chocolate and eat healthily. Fatties don't have any and no amount of government intervention is going to help them or their children.

[jas xjr]

took my dad to a local clinic this morning for an xray. whilst waiting for him i observed that 80% of the people at the clinic were obese. their kids also

[Burwood]

Walm, it isn't easy. I love food and drinking. To enable me to do so guilt free i exercise 5 times a week (vigorously). I also plan ahead if i know I'm having beer and pizza in the evening. As a parent i too understand a whinging kid, but, if a parent sees a beer gut sized belly on their kid. Stretch marks and a waist the size of an adult, then they have a serious problem and it's bordering on abuse to just shrug it off.

[walm]

130R said:

It takes willpower not to stuff your face with chocolate and eat healthily. Fatties don't have any and no amount of government intervention is going to help them or their children.

That's just empirically false.

Government intervention helps with things like this ALL THE TIME.

Smoking ban in pubs, for example.

Sure they will still be fat but they might be a little LESS FAT!!

[Burwood]

ever stood on a small piece of leg in bare feet (on a wooden floor). fking hurts. They should ban Lego adverts too. My house is full of the stuff.

[Gecko1978]

Burwood said:

sugerbear said:

HTP99 said:

Adrian W said:

its great to see so many righteous experts on here, its simple eat less etc etc, however the real problem must be the vested interests, otherwise why not just make it illegal for any business to sell crap food.

Black market burgers anyone?

Eat less and eat correctly, it isn't hard, you can have a Burger, you can have a bacon sarnie, you can have crisps, you can have cheese, but not every single day and not in vast quantities.

Walk to to school, walk to the shops, take the stairs as opposed to the lift.

It ain't hard.

But clearly it is. Otherwise children wouldn't be getting fatter. Banning food adverts on TV would be a great way to start the reversal of bad eating habits.

Ban things? I don't think so. Ever seen a parent put coke in a baby bottle. A bottle designed for milk. You know, babies use them? Or should we just ban FF coke? I rarely get caught out by sneaky food labels and some manufacturers do take the piss with this fat free BS then load it with sugar and salt. Times are changing but obesity is getting worse. I have a friend who must be 250 kg. He denies eating st food in truck sized portions but he does. His penchant, cheese and bread. He can eat a loaf of bread, nothing on it, just bread. He wolfs down cheese in 250g portions. We do all take the piss out of him on occasion. He doesn't drink but decided to drink beer at a bbq. He downed 10 cans of lager in 30 mins and threw his food up. The sausages he had eaten, at least 10, all came up whole, well in halves. He just swallows his food-inhales it. He also sts himself on a weekly basis and doesn't even know he's done it. I kid you not. He doesn't think he has a problem and won't change. He too was fat as a kid.

wait wait what hje sts himself an does not see that as a problem WTF!!!

An rough guess 250kg is what 40stone ffs thats more than a Gixxer with fuel.

How does he afford such huge portions and new underpants

[CoolHands]

HTP99 said:

Adrian W said:

its great to see so many righteous experts on here, its simple eat less etc etc, however the real problem must be the vested interests, otherwise why not just make it illegal for any business to sell crap food.

Black market burgers anyone?

Eat less and eat correctly, it isn't hard, you can have a Burger, you can have a bacon sarnie, you can have crisps, you can have cheese, but not every single day and not in vast quantities.

Walk to to school, walk to the shops, take the stairs as opposed to the lift.

It ain't hard.

But what about my glandular problem?

[RizzoTheRat]

Gecko1978 said:

ok could we not do what my kids pre school does no junk food avalible lots of fresh fruit an veg etc lean meat. So if kids are there 5 days a week they get at least 1 good meal a day or as with most pre schools breakfast lunch an dinner. Snack time is veggie sticks etc.

So expand that model and do it in Schools up to 16. Make the meals free make them compulsory sure some kids will refuse to eat most wont etc.

My wife teaches at a 6th form college, they've changed to a healthier menu in the canteen and removed all the vending machines that used to sell chocolates and fizzy drinks. The teachers are all moaning that they can't eat chips and sugary drinks and loads of the kids wander over the road to McDonalds for lunch

[FredClogs]

It's addiction, pure and simple, compulsive behaviour - it's all very well suggesting a lack of will power but I'm afraid the brain just doesn't work like that, anyone who's been an addict will tell you. The problem with food is that it's so obviously an intrinsic and necessary part of our existence, we've just got to a point (in the west) where our brains aren't able to handle the conflicting evolutionary messages and modern requirement for moderation - add to that sugar and well, we're fked basically. Of course government and culture needs to change, and it is the Scandinavians have been on top of this for some time, it's just not changing fast enough to help the current generation.

Edited by FredClogs on Thursday 18th August 15:47

[Cupramax]

Burwood said:

ever stood on a small piece of leg in bare feet (on a wooden floor)

what did the owner of said leg have to say?

[walm]

Cupramax said:

Burwood said:

ever stood on a small piece of leg in bare feet (on a wooden floor)

what did the owner of said leg have to say?

Well it stopped the little bugger whinging for a kinder egg, that's for sure!

[dudleybloke]

You don't see many obese marathon runners.

[Halb]

FredClogs said:

Thinks it's about time we started to consider sugar to be addictive and control it's supply (and demand). I'm not nutritional biologist but from what I understand the effect it has on your gut bacteria and the cravings it causes are symptomatic of such.

He says swigging his daily can of Coke and scoffing a white bread tuna and sweetcorn butty.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01k0fs0/episodes/guide

[130R]

walm said:

That's just empirically false.

Government intervention helps with things like this ALL THE TIME.

Smoking ban in pubs, for example.

Sure they will still be fat but they might be a little LESS FAT!!

Electronic cigarettes have done far more to reduce smoking rates than the smoking ban in pubs ever did, and I'm struggling to see all these other things that government intervention has helped with. Alcohol taxes don't work and a "fat tax" already failed in Denmark.

Education and personal responsibility is the only answer. People blaming the government for their kids being fat is pathetic. They need to look in the mirror to see who is really culpable.

[walm]

130R said:

Electronic cigarettes have done far more to reduce smoking rates than the smoking ban in pubs ever did.

I don't know but I would be astonished if that were true.