Families need more help with tackling childhood obesity?!
Discussion
130R said:
People blaming the government for their kids being fat is pathetic. They need to look in the mirror to see who is really culpable.
No one sensible is doing that.The sensible people are suggesting that the government could do more/SOMETHING to help.
Seriously, why not ban junk food adverts in the commercial breaks of kids TV?
Unless you are McDonalds or Cadburys, I really don't see why not.
dudleybloke said:
You don't see many obese marathon runners.
You see few obese people full stop outside of the wealthier, developed nations. Not many fatties in Belsen or Auschwitz either, apart from the ones wearing grey uniforms.Part of the generational issue is, IMHO, a throw-back to the end of rationing.
FWIW and for those who didn't see it, the BBC's Fat vs. Sugar is one of the best, most illustrative pieces I have ever seen on the subject: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1amh2t_bbc-horiz...
Digga said:
You see few obese people full stop outside of the wealthier, developed nations. Not many fatties in Belsen or Auschwitz either, apart from the ones wearing grey uniforms.
Part of the generational issue is, IMHO, a throw-back to the end of rationing.
FWIW and for those who didn't see it, the BBC's Fat vs. Sugar is one of the best, most illustrative pieces I have ever seen on the subject: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1amh2t_bbc-horiz...
BBC have made some wonderful programmes on nutrition. The Truth about series is very good.Part of the generational issue is, IMHO, a throw-back to the end of rationing.
FWIW and for those who didn't see it, the BBC's Fat vs. Sugar is one of the best, most illustrative pieces I have ever seen on the subject: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1amh2t_bbc-horiz...
jas xjr said:
nothing to stop mcdonalds et al making and selling healthy products
People dont go to the golden arches because they want a salad. They go there because its cheap and/or ticks the 'dirty burger' box.As already stated, there is nothing wrong with a McDonalds now and again, its when it becomes a habit that there is an issue. Sadly some people will never 'get it' however many times they are told.
jas xjr said:
nothing to stop mcdonalds et al making and selling healthy products
Most of them do don't they? I know subway do a low calorie range, and I don't think I've seen anyone order one. Most of the burger places do some relatively healthy options, but people tend to buy a portion of chips and gallon on coke to go with it.Frimley111R said:
FFS! Eat less, eat less s
t foods and do some fking exercise!
Just saw some woman on the TV complaining that her doctor said that her kid would only be put on a waiting list for pills or something. Why are we wasting money on this stuff (yes, I know, NHS later life etc.). Just wait for tomorrow when its all about pressures on young people to look like models/anorexics too!
The mother wasn't exactly slim either. Hardly a role model more of a roll one. t foods and do some fking exercise! Just saw some woman on the TV complaining that her doctor said that her kid would only be put on a waiting list for pills or something. Why are we wasting money on this stuff (yes, I know, NHS later life etc.). Just wait for tomorrow when its all about pressures on young people to look like models/anorexics too!
what did the owner of said leg have to say?
Smollet said:
The mother wasn't exactly slim either. Hardly a role model more of a roll one.
Thats the thing, most of the programs where the kids are fat also have fat parents. The doctors themselves say its not a genetics issue but an 'environmental' one.If the parents eat crap then so will the kids because they all eat the same thing.
Educating the parents is the key but a lot of them are deaf to this sort of thing. Kids that are 'fussy eaters' so only eat pizza and chips also get on my tits as well.
KTF said:
As already stated, there is nothing wrong with a McDonalds now and again, its when it becomes a habit that there is an issue. Sadly some people will never 'get it' however many times they are told.
I think there was a teacher in the US who went to McDs every day for each meal for 6 months or so, but limited himself to 2,000 calories a day.Guess what... he lost weight!
http://uk.businessinsider.com/how-to-lose-weight-e...
walm said:
Yes because they kept to the recommended calorie intake and exercised. Its not rocket science."Cisna limited his daily intake to 2,000 calories and exercised for 45 minutes five times a week."
"Cisna pushes the message that you can eat anything you want as long as you regulate calories and exercise." No s
t Sherlock.KTF said:
walm said:
Yes because they kept to the recommended calorie intake and exercised. Its not rocket science."Cisna limited his daily intake to 2,000 calories and exercised for 45 minutes five times a week."
"Cisna pushes the message that you can eat anything you want as long as you regulate calories and exercise." No s
t Sherlock.KTF said:
walm said:
Yes because they kept to the recommended calorie intake and exercised. Its not rocket science."Cisna limited his daily intake to 2,000 calories and exercised for 45 minutes five times a week."
"Cisna pushes the message that you can eat anything you want as long as you regulate calories and exercise." No s
t Sherlock.Did they differ at the end?
Jockman said:
What were his cholesterol, liver function and diabetes readings at the beginning?
Did they differ at the end?
I think the guy who did something similar for the Supersize Me film (granted he didnt ration the calorie incate) went to see the Doctor before, during, after for the duration. Towards the end the Doctor told him he had to stop the experiment as his results were not looking good.Did they differ at the end?
"Spurlock ate at McDonald's restaurants three times per day, eating every item on the chain's menu at least once. Spurlock consumed an average of 20.9 megajoules or 5,000 kcal (the equivalent of 9.26 Big Macs) per day during the experiment. An intake of around 2,500 kcal within a healthy balanced diet is more generally recommended for a man to maintain his weight.[3] As a result, the then-32-year-old Spurlock gained 11.1 kilograms (24 lb), a 13% body mass increase, increased his cholesterol to 230 mg/dL, and experienced mood swings, sexual dysfunction, and fat accumulation in his liver. It took Spurlock fourteen months to lose the weight gained from his experiment using a vegan diet supervised by his then-girlfriend, a chef who specializes in gourmet vegan dishes."
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Size_Me
Jockman said:
KTF said:
walm said:
Yes because they kept to the recommended calorie intake and exercised. Its not rocket science."Cisna limited his daily intake to 2,000 calories and exercised for 45 minutes five times a week."
"Cisna pushes the message that you can eat anything you want as long as you regulate calories and exercise." No s
t Sherlock.Did they differ at the end?
Adults can make choices, kids can not be trusted to do so when it comes to food. If you want to be obese and as a result, smell, get unwell, sore joints, ball rash etc etc then be my guest.
jas xjr said:
nothing to stop mcdonalds et al making and selling healthy products
mcdonalds meals are neither unhealthy or fattening... big mac, small fries and a diet drink is 740 calories, 2200/3 is 733 calories, so that's one of your 3 meals a day or a main meal, you could easily go upto 1000 calories for one of your meals a day. The issue isn't what people are eating but how much. Neither salt nor fat is bad for you, that's been disproven numerous times. Calories are the killer.
Ill often have a double cheese burger as one of my meals if im on the road, 440 calories is a reasonable lunch.
Foliage said:
mcdonalds meals are neither unhealthy or fattening... big mac, small fries and a diet drink is 740 calories,
2200/3 is 733 calories, so that's one of your 3 meals a day or a main meal, you could easily go upto 1000 calories for one of your meals a day. The issue isn't what people are eating but how much. Neither salt nor fat is bad for you, that's been disproven numerous times. Calories are the killer.
Ill often have a double cheese burger as one of my meals if im on the road, 440 calories is a reasonable lunch.
I'm really not sure how true that is. Surely unsaturated fat / excess salt / excess sugar is the killer?2200/3 is 733 calories, so that's one of your 3 meals a day or a main meal, you could easily go upto 1000 calories for one of your meals a day. The issue isn't what people are eating but how much. Neither salt nor fat is bad for you, that's been disproven numerous times. Calories are the killer.
Ill often have a double cheese burger as one of my meals if im on the road, 440 calories is a reasonable lunch.
If you go to a shopping centre or motorway service station food court there's always a concession that sells fruit smoothies.
Without fail, there will be a queue at Mcdonalds, KFC, Burger King, Pizza hut etc.
The kiosk selling the smoothies will be deserted and soon closes down.
Says it all really. There are plenty of options out there but people aren't interested.
Without fail, there will be a queue at Mcdonalds, KFC, Burger King, Pizza hut etc.
The kiosk selling the smoothies will be deserted and soon closes down.
Says it all really. There are plenty of options out there but people aren't interested.
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