WW2 what if hitler went East?

[Halb]

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[Derek Smith]

TVR1 said:

glazbagun said:

I'd say no, but a lot of the "Jewish Problem" was definitely of their own making. They were inviting native Germans back to Germany, tossing Jews and Poles out of their homes/businesses and eventually planned a sort of Greater Germany which spread into the East, with the Poles/Slavs moved further east like the Balkans and the Jews further east still.

Then as the logistical nightmare unfolded, alternative schemes such as dumping the Jews in Africa or elsewhere started to be floated to deal with the huge amount of internal displacement.

So a mess for sure, but I don't think it would have saved them from the Soviets.

With WWII almost gone from memory it's almost amazing at just how rational-yet-fking-nasty the Nazi's were. I mean, how cold do you need to be and sit around a table and plot something like this:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalplan_Ost

If you want cold..... Try Aktion T4

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aktion_T4

My father volunteered for the army in 1938 because he believed a war was on the way and he felt he wanted the extra you got with being a professional soldier. My extended family was left wing, with a couple of communists, but my father thought that it was silly to believe in something man-made, such as a political ideology. So he was politically aware and, indeed, wanted to rid the world of Hitler's acolytes.

When he was moving from the home he had lived since he joined up, some 50 years previously, I helped him clear everything out and, as I loved tools and mechanical things, the shed was given to me. In a drawer I found half a dozen faded newspapers wrapped up in a tin box. I had a look at them and they showed the liberation of an extermination camp or maybe more than one. The tin had been sealed with sellotape so my father had obviously opened the tin recently and I chatted to him about it.

He said that before the war the papers were full of the atrocities that were being committed by the Germans on the Jews but he didn't believe all of it. He knew no group could be that vicious. Yet he had Jewish friends before the war, one of who had fled the pogram, leaving his family behind. He joined up as well and survived the war.

He kept the papers to remind himself of how wrong he - and the rest of us of course - could be when something goes against our beliefs.

Some of the pre war papers were supportive of nazi ideology and rubbished the reports coming out of Germany. He even saw a film of a concentration camp where there was table tennis and an orchestra. He was quite harsh on himself and I tried to tell him so, but he was having none of it. He was wrong over the most significant events in his youth.

A little while ago I bought a New Scientist little book with the title Question Everything. Reminded me of my dad that day forcefully - for probably the first time ever - telling me what I must do when reading papers, listening to those trying to convince, or watching the news at the cinema.

Don't believe a word that is not backed up, and even then believe just a third.

[Halb]

Sage advice

[catso]

slipstream 1985 said:

What would have happened if hitler had gone East into Russia first instead of france say even with Japan attacking from the other side? How would the war have trned out?

But he didn't.

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