13yr old killed in F50

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camshafted

938 posts

165 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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A child dying in a car crash will nearly always make local news
A child dying in a car crash where the car is expensive or the driver/child is well-known will nearly always make the national news.

Everyone's life has the same value, but the moment it is the second crash it becomes a rarer incident and therefore of interest to people outside the local area.

AndStilliRise

2,295 posts

116 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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Very sad. You would have thought the driver of such a car would know how to handle it.

FurtiveFreddy

8,577 posts

237 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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Without wanting to give too much away, this happened on a private access road which leads to some units where cars like this are transported, stored, maintained and detailed. It could be connected to that or they could have been to the Newlyns Farm Shop, which is also at the end of the road.

It's single track for a few hundred yards with a couple of passing places and is well maintained, not what you'd call a 'farm track'. If nobody is coming towards you on that road, I can see how you might be tempted to boot a car like that, as it would appear to be a safe place to do so. At the end of the track where the fence is damaged, there's a pronounced dip in the road and if you drove over that at speed, the car could easily lose traction or even get airborne.

Whatever happened, it's very tragic indeed for the family of the child.

Edited by FurtiveFreddy on Tuesday 23 August 13:45

Petrus1983

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8,674 posts

162 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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FurtiveFreddy said:
Without wanting to give too much away, this happened on a private access road which leads to some units where cars like this are transported, stored, maintained and detailed. It could be connected to that or they could have been to the Newlyns Farm Shop, which is also at the end of the road.

It's single track for a few hundred yards with a couple of passing places and is well maintained, not what you'd call a 'farm track'. If nobody is coming towards you on that road, I can see how you might be tempted to boot a car like that, as it would appear to be a safe place to do so. At the end of the track where the fence is damaged, there's a pronounced dip in the road and if you drove over that at speed, the car could easily lose traction or even get airborne.

Whatever happened, it's very tragic indeed for the family of the child.

Edited by FurtiveFreddy on Tuesday 23 August 13:45
This is far more similar to what the BBC were saying.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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As someone mentioned earlier in this post I have a feeling it was the guy behind Tax The Rich.

The pictures of the farm are the same as shots in his video's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PQ4VGMDMQU

hantsxlg

862 posts

232 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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very sad crash, but also a very odd place. As mentioned it is a farm access track to a farm shop that would have been closed at the time (9pm). Also dead straight track apart from a very tight bend near the end where the crash looks to have happened. I can't see how they can have been going at much speed at that point, so I wonder if they even had their seatbelts on.

Overall very sad, and as a father I can't imagine what it must be like to loose your son in this sort (or any) of way.

Dr Interceptor

7,773 posts

196 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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ELUSIVEJIM said:
As someone mentioned earlier in this post I have a feeling it was the guy behind Tax The Rich.
As mentioned above, they are based at Heveningham Hall estate in Suffolk, nowhere near Hampshire.

Terrible accident, tragedy, loss.

s3fella

10,524 posts

187 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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Man and child not related and police refusing to say if the man was driving......
scratchchin

CoolCurly

210 posts

211 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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Thats not a road, thats the access road to the Farm Shop.

RIP to the lil man.


SimonL

20 posts

284 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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Petrus1983 said:
This is PH - we're mourning the F50
I find your above comment to be in very bad taste.

If fatal road accidents, especially those involving children are to be discussed in this forum then some taste & maturity needs to be shown.

Davey S2

13,092 posts

254 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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Tragic to think that this would have been such a thrill for any 13 year old petrol head and for it to end like this.


Europa1

10,923 posts

188 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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FurtiveFreddy said:
Without wanting to give too much away, this happened on a private access road which leads to some units where cars like this are transported, stored, maintained and detailed. It could be connected to that or they could have been to the Newlyns Farm Shop, which is also at the end of the road.

It's single track for a few hundred yards with a couple of passing places and is well maintained, not what you'd call a 'farm track'. If nobody is coming towards you on that road, I can see how you might be tempted to boot a car like that, as it would appear to be a safe place to do so. At the end of the track where the fence is damaged, there's a pronounced dip in the road and if you drove over that at speed, the car could easily lose traction or even get airborne.

Whatever happened, it's very tragic indeed for the family of the child.

Edited by FurtiveFreddy on Tuesday 23 August 13:45
If it's like similar farm roads where I grew up (darkest Norfolk), the surface is often very dusty, so not as much grip as you would expect on a public road with a higher volume of traffic.

FourWheelDrift

88,494 posts

284 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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ELUSIVEJIM said:
As someone mentioned earlier in this post I have a feeling it was the guy behind Tax The Rich.

The pictures of the farm are the same as shots in his video's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PQ4VGMDMQU
No, you missed my post from earlier then, they use the farms and private roads around the Heveningham Hall estate in Suffolk. The curved stables at the end of your video is the stable block next to the hall, the farm they drive out of is New House Home Farm. You can also tell it's parkland, not fields from 2mins in.

FurtiveFreddy

8,577 posts

237 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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hantsxlg said:
very sad crash, but also a very odd place. As mentioned it is a farm access track to a farm shop that would have been closed at the time (9pm). Also dead straight track apart from a very tight bend near the end where the crash looks to have happened. I can't see how they can have been going at much speed at that point, so I wonder if they even had their seatbelts on.
Yes the shop would've closed at 6pm so probably not connected.

By the look of the photos the car was travelling away from the shop and had passed over the bridge when it lost control, so a straight road, but in an F50 it's very possible whoever was driving lost control just after the bridge where it hits the dip I mentioned.

Nothing to do with TaxTheRich at all.

FurtiveFreddy

8,577 posts

237 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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Soov535 said:
So, same farm, and it's not easy to see how this could happen judging by the driving here, and the idiocy at the end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PQ4VGMDMQU
It's not the same farm, as we keep saying. rolleyes

Soov535

35,829 posts

271 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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FurtiveFreddy said:
Soov535 said:
So, same farm, and it's not easy to see how this could happen judging by the driving here, and the idiocy at the end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PQ4VGMDMQU
It's not the same farm, as we keep saying. rolleyes
Apologies, I stand corrected.


Eric Mc

121,958 posts

265 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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It just shows how a thread can become seriously derailed just because of one sloppy comment.

KTF

9,804 posts

150 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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"Watch this..."

Adrian W

13,858 posts

228 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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Petrus1983 said:
This is PH - we're mourning the F50
really not an appropriate thing to say,

Digga

40,300 posts

283 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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AndStilliRise said:
Very sad. You would have thought the driver of such a car would know how to handle it.
Just because I can afford to buy a 911 turbo, doesn't make me Walter Röhrl.

Davey S2 said:
Tragic to think that this would have been such a thrill for any 13 year old petrol head and for it to end like this.
My thoughts exactly.