13yr old killed in F50

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CocoPops

463 posts

230 months

Saturday 27th August 2016
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I hope he didn't suffer frown and died quickly whilst enjoying the F50.
Poor boy, poor family frown

Hilts

4,383 posts

281 months

Saturday 27th August 2016
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What a good-looking young boy.

Life is ste sometimes.

RIP fella, condolences to his family.

CocoPops

463 posts

230 months

Saturday 3rd September 2016
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So no charges or have Police not completed investigation yet?

21TonyK

11,494 posts

208 months

Saturday 3rd September 2016
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Makes me wince knowing I took my daughter out on track when she was 14/5 giving it full beans sometimes.

Wouldn't do that again now. Hindsight/maturity et all.

k-ink

9,070 posts

178 months

Saturday 3rd September 2016
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21TonyK said:
Makes me wince knowing I took my daughter out on track when she was 14/5 giving it full beans sometimes.

Wouldn't do that again now. Hindsight/maturity et all.
One of the reasons I bought my mk1 mx5 was to make some memories with my little girl at sensible speeds. We can have fun without going anywher near daft speeds smile

br d

8,388 posts

225 months

Saturday 3rd September 2016
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There's a Ford test track near where I live. They had (I think it's been discontinued) an annual charity day where you could pay 20 quid for a passenger ride around the test track in a supercar. It has high banked curves and you can really get going, it was very popular.

We would all queue up in the car park and those that had paid jumped in and got taken for a couple of laps.

When it came to my turn a young couple urged their daughter into the car and waved her off, she was about 6 years old.
I drove down to the sliplane onto the track and waited for the stewards to wave me on. There was a couple of cars in front of me and as we waited the little girl started crying.

"I don't want to go, I'm scared". She is breaking her little heart and it's badly affecting me.

I don't have kids myself and I'm a little unsure in these situations, so I said "It'll be fun darling, I'm sure you'll enjoy it once we get going"

She became more insistent, started gulping in big sobs and said "NO!!! I'm scared. please don't!"

At this point my minds made up and there's no way I'm taking this kid out. I'm now at the front of the queue and I tell the steward I want to go back to the car park. He waves me onto the track when there's a gap, I do a U turn and drive back to the pick up point.

As I pull up (I swear on my eyesight this happened) the dad says "What's the fking problem?"
I said "She doesn't want to go"
"She'll be fine, just take her out, we've paid for this"

I have a sobbing child in the passenger seat.

I said I'm sorry mate just lift her out.

Parents aren't always the best judge of this stuff.


BlackLabel

13,251 posts

122 months

Sunday 4th September 2016
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CocoPops said:
So no charges or have Police not completed investigation yet?
At the time it was reported that the driver had suffered some serious injuries so one assumes he's still in hospital.

Anyone know what happens when such a person needs to be criminally charged? At the very least you would think the person in question needs to be healthy enough to understand what they are being charged with.

Vaud

50,289 posts

154 months

Sunday 4th September 2016
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BlackLabel said:
CocoPops said:
So no charges or have Police not completed investigation yet?
At the time it was reported that the driver had suffered some serious injuries so one assumes he's still in hospital.

Anyone know what happens when such a person needs to be criminally charged? At the very least you would think the person in question needs to be healthy enough to understand what they are being charged with.
I'd draw a comparison with the Shoreham air crash? The incident was in August, he was released from hospital in Sep, but the pilot was only then interviewed in December. He is under investigation but has not been charged with anything.

k-ink

9,070 posts

178 months

Sunday 4th September 2016
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br d said:
When it came to my turn a young couple urged their daughter into the car and waved her off, she was about 6 years old.

"I don't want to go, I'm scared". She is breaking her little heart and it's badly affecting me.

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She became more insistent, started gulping in big sobs and said "NO!!! I'm scared. please don't!"

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As I pull up (I swear on my eyesight this happened) the dad says "What's the fking problem?"
I said "She doesn't want to go"
"She'll be fine, just take her out, we've paid for this"

I have a sobbing child in the passenger seat.

I said I'm sorry mate just lift her out.

Parents aren't always the best judge of this stuff.
eek That is outrageous. Well done for doing the right thing! You'd make a much better father than the useless git that poor girl is stuck with. So sad.

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

122 months

Saturday 4th February 2017
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Does anyone know what happened to the driver?

No recent press reports about him - unless I'm looking in the wrong place.

FurtiveFreddy

8,577 posts

236 months

Sunday 5th February 2017
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Ongoing legal to-ing and fro-ing by all accounts. These things can take some time to conclude.

agtlaw

6,680 posts

205 months

jjlynn27

7,935 posts

108 months

Thursday 30th March 2017
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br d said:
There's a Ford test track near where I live. They had (I think it's been discontinued) an annual charity day where you could pay 20 quid for a passenger ride around the test track in a supercar. It has high banked curves and you can really get going, it was very popular.

We would all queue up in the car park and those that had paid jumped in and got taken for a couple of laps.

When it came to my turn a young couple urged their daughter into the car and waved her off, she was about 6 years old.
I drove down to the sliplane onto the track and waited for the stewards to wave me on. There was a couple of cars in front of me and as we waited the little girl started crying.

"I don't want to go, I'm scared". She is breaking her little heart and it's badly affecting me.

I don't have kids myself and I'm a little unsure in these situations, so I said "It'll be fun darling, I'm sure you'll enjoy it once we get going"

She became more insistent, started gulping in big sobs and said "NO!!! I'm scared. please don't!"

At this point my minds made up and there's no way I'm taking this kid out. I'm now at the front of the queue and I tell the steward I want to go back to the car park. He waves me onto the track when there's a gap, I do a U turn and drive back to the pick up point.

As I pull up (I swear on my eyesight this happened) the dad says "What's the fking problem?"
I said "She doesn't want to go"
"She'll be fine, just take her out, we've paid for this"

I have a sobbing child in the passenger seat.

I said I'm sorry mate just lift her out.

Parents aren't always the best judge of this stuff.
Missed this. You, rather obviously, did the right thing.
Some people shouldn't be allowed to have kids.

ALawson

7,814 posts

250 months

mike74

3,687 posts

131 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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ALawson said:
Good to see his wealth is already working for him, only charged with careless rather than dangerous driving.

Murph7355

37,651 posts

255 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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mike74 said:
Good to see his wealth is already working for him, only charged with careless rather than dangerous driving.
Why is that anything to do with his wealth? Has a judge said that as he has means he'll only be getting tried on that basis?

Or is it a personal chip at play?

hyphen

26,262 posts

89 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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mike74 said:
ALawson said:
Good to see his wealth is already working for him, only charged with careless rather than dangerous driving.
Whats to be gained from charging him with a more serious form? It was an accident that will never be repeated, his intentions were good.

As they like to say, is it in the public interest.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

260 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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hyphen said:
Whats to be gained from charging him with a more serious form? It was an accident that will never be repeated, his intentions were good.

As they like to say, is it in the public interest.
I believe I'm right in thinking that if they charge him with the more serious offence the court can still convict for the lesser one, in which case CPS has nothing to lose. Quite apart from the fact that the threat of a dangerous driving conviction might prompt the defendant to offer a guilty plea for careless instead.

kiethton

13,883 posts

179 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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Dr Jekyll said:
hyphen said:
Whats to be gained from charging him with a more serious form? It was an accident that will never be repeated, his intentions were good.

As they like to say, is it in the public interest.
I believe I'm right in thinking that if they charge him with the more serious offence the court can still convict for the lesser one, in which case CPS has nothing to lose. Quite apart from the fact that the threat of a dangerous driving conviction might prompt the defendant to offer a guilty plea for careless instead.
But why push for that? How is it right or proper to push for the wrong charge when the lesser charge may be more appropriate?

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

260 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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kiethton said:
But why push for that? How is it right or proper to push for the wrong charge when the lesser charge may be more appropriate?
The job of the CPS is to 'successfully' prosecute. 'Success' meaning a conviction.