Nasty earthquake in central Italy

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37171953

[Oceanic]

As always, I think the death toll will be a lot higher knowing the construction standards in the countryside will be poor.

I wonder who the Italian government will blame for this earthquake this time?

[JohnStitch]

We're on holiday about 20 miles east of the epicentre - absolutely shat myself. I honestly thought the villa we're staying in was sliding down the side of the mountain - I can only liken it to the villa feeling like it was on a boat, and the noise was horrific - but thankfully no real damage and family is ok. We got off very lightly compared to what I'm seeing on the news this morning - a very surreal experience and the aftershocks were a little unnerving too

[Wobbegong]

Oceanic said:

As always, I think the death toll will be a lot higher knowing the construction standards in the countryside will be poor.

I wonder who the Italian government will blame for this earthquake this time?

Brexit probably, although climate change/global warming is still in with a chance.

[Adenauer]

JohnStitch said:

We're on holiday about 20 miles east of the epicentre - absolutely shat myself. I honestly thought the villa we're staying in was sliding down the side of the mountain - I can only liken it to the villa feeling like it was on a boat, and the noise was horrific - but thankfully no real damage and family is ok. We got off very lightly compared to what I'm seeing on the news this morning - a very surreal experience and the aftershocks were a little unnerving too

Bloody hell, that must have been scary, glad you're all okay.

[jjlynn27]

JohnStitch said:

We're on holiday about 20 miles east of the epicentre - absolutely shat myself. I honestly thought the villa we're staying in was sliding down the side of the mountain - I can only liken it to the villa feeling like it was on a boat, and the noise was horrific - but thankfully no real damage and family is ok. We got off very lightly compared to what I'm seeing on the news this morning - a very surreal experience and the aftershocks were a little unnerving too

We came back yesterday, webcam shows our place is ok, but we are a bit north (LdGarda). As far as building standards are concerned, we found that, of the places we've seen, building standards are significantly better than new builds in UK.

[JohnStitch]

jjlynn27 said:

We came back yesterday, webcam shows our place is ok, but we are a bit north (LdGarda). As far as building standards are concerned, we found that, of the places we've seen, building standards are significantly better than new builds in UK.

We just had a call from the villa owner to check were okay and he told us that the architect they used in the restoration insisted on reinforced floors and roof as we are in a risk area - glad they did so too

[jjlynn27]

JohnStitch said:

We just had a call from the villa owner to check were okay and he told us that the architect they used in the restoration insisted on reinforced floors and roof as we are in a risk area - glad they did so too

Glad that all is good there, enjoy the food. Already missing tomatoes, and trip scheduled to wrose for some mozzarella di bufala.

[Enricogto]

Wobbegong said:

Oceanic said:

As always, I think the death toll will be a lot higher knowing the construction standards in the countryside will be poor.

I wonder who the Italian government will blame for this earthquake this time?

Brexit probably, although climate change/global warming is still in with a chance.

Same people can't really abstain from useless comments eh?

It would be interesting to see how the center of an historic village in the Malverns or in Cornwall would fare against a similar earthquake. Of course new builds are up to the latest standards, but the historic city centers are still the same as hundreds of years ago...

[Wobbegong]

Enricogto said:

Wobbegong said:

Oceanic said:

As always, I think the death toll will be a lot higher knowing the construction standards in the countryside will be poor.

I wonder who the Italian government will blame for this earthquake this time?

Brexit probably, although climate change/global warming is still in with a chance.

Same people can't really abstain from useless comments eh?

It would be interesting to see how the center of an historic village in the Malverns or in Cornwall would fare against a similar earthquake. Of course new builds are up to the latest standards, but the historic city centers are still the same as hundreds of years ago...

My apologies. I will put an Italian flag on my Facebook profile tout suite eh.

[Enricogto]

Wobbegong said:

My apologies. I will put an Italian flag on my Facebook profile tout suite eh.

Whatever....

[Iva Barchetta]

My sister has a holiday house near Lucca,well north of the quake.

The outside walls are about 18" thick.

[CrutyRammers]

Enricogto said:

Wobbegong said:

Oceanic said:

As always, I think the death toll will be a lot higher knowing the construction standards in the countryside will be poor.

I wonder who the Italian government will blame for this earthquake this time?

Brexit probably, although climate change/global warming is still in with a chance.

Same people can't really abstain from useless comments eh?

I assumed it was a dig at the government taking a load of scientists to court and convicting them of manslaughter for not predicting the last earthquake. Which was a pretty muppety thing to do and a fair target for derision IMO.

[Wobbegong]

CrutyRammers said:

Enricogto said:

Wobbegong said:

Oceanic said:

As always, I think the death toll will be a lot higher knowing the construction standards in the countryside will be poor.

I wonder who the Italian government will blame for this earthquake this time?

Brexit probably, although climate change/global warming is still in with a chance.

Same people can't really abstain from useless comments eh?

I assumed it was a dig at the government taking a load of scientists to court and convicting them of manslaughter for not predicting the last earthquake. Which was a pretty muppety thing to do and a fair target for derision IMO.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2829107/Scientists-jailed-manslaughter-did-not-predict-deadly-earthquake-Italy-killed-309-people-cleared.html

Yup!

[Oceanic]

CrutyRammers said:

I assumed it was a dig at the government taking a load of scientists to court and convicting them of manslaughter for not predicting the last earthquake. Which was a pretty muppety thing to do and a fair target for derision IMO.

That was what I was getting at!

[Eric Mc]

Big quake in Burmah as ell being reported on Radio 4 news.

[battered]

If I were designing something to resist earthquakes I'd adopt some of the older construction methods. Since at that time they hadn't really got the hang of foundations a bit of movement was to be expected. That's why these Tudor places you see haven't got a horizontal surface or a right angle anywhere in them. Things like lime mortar, earth, wooden framing and wattle and daub make a lot more sense, as long as you can live with the constant maintenance compared to a modern structure.

[JohnStitch]

All these tremors now are weird, keep feeling everything slightly rocking - obviously nothing like last night but it's the strangest feeling

[Rosscow]

Minimum 60 dead now, likely to get much higher.

[Wobbegong]

Rosscow said:

Minimum 60 dead now, likely to get much higher.

Terrible

I was 'hopeful' when initial reports suggested only 4 had died