5 dead in Camber Sands today
Discussion
Ayahuasca said:
TheExcession said:
Interesting thread, not because of all the usual PH bickering and speculation but more because of the fact a few people have told stories of close encounters with death by ocean.
I had a similar experience on an island in Thailand. Bloke in the adjacent hut lent me flippers, snorkel and mask for a bit of a swim in the ocean.
It was so shallow it was almost boring so I paddled out a bit looking for something more interesting. Eventually got bored and decided it was time to swim back to shore.
I was barely out of my depth at this stage and I guess about 4/500 metres from shore. I swam for ages trying to get back to shore and made little to no progress.
I really started to panic then, I just didn't feel I was making any progress and went through the whole 'Oh fvck I'm going to die here now aren't I?'
A horrible horrible horrible experience, I remember swimming on my back and looking left and right to markers on each side of the bay and realising I wasn't getting any closer to shore.
This seemed to go on for ages and eventually I did make it back to land.
I've never swam in the sea since and sincerely hope I never have to again.
I have that T shirt too.I had a similar experience on an island in Thailand. Bloke in the adjacent hut lent me flippers, snorkel and mask for a bit of a swim in the ocean.
It was so shallow it was almost boring so I paddled out a bit looking for something more interesting. Eventually got bored and decided it was time to swim back to shore.
I was barely out of my depth at this stage and I guess about 4/500 metres from shore. I swam for ages trying to get back to shore and made little to no progress.
I really started to panic then, I just didn't feel I was making any progress and went through the whole 'Oh fvck I'm going to die here now aren't I?'
A horrible horrible horrible experience, I remember swimming on my back and looking left and right to markers on each side of the bay and realising I wasn't getting any closer to shore.
This seemed to go on for ages and eventually I did make it back to land.
I've never swam in the sea since and sincerely hope I never have to again.
Snorkelling, when it was time to head back to the beach I realised that no matter how fast I swam, I was going backwards - further out. Obviously I know not to panic, but I panicked big style... ended up crawling to shore hand over hand over sharp coral, got cut to pieces.
I was about 14 at the time and without a doubt I would be dead if I didn't have the flippers on.
Similar experience
Jumped from a rock sea was almost level with it. Messing about for a bit must have been no more than 25 yards out, started swimming back and swimming until I could swim no more same distance as I started, had to go on my back because I was knackered then I was about 50 yards out swan like mad and repeat seemed like ages didn't panic think I was too tired by the time I realised what was happening . When I got back the rock I jumped from was now well over my head and had to climb up it, i wonder if I only made it back because the tide stopped going out.
Jumped from a rock sea was almost level with it. Messing about for a bit must have been no more than 25 yards out, started swimming back and swimming until I could swim no more same distance as I started, had to go on my back because I was knackered then I was about 50 yards out swan like mad and repeat seemed like ages didn't panic think I was too tired by the time I realised what was happening . When I got back the rock I jumped from was now well over my head and had to climb up it, i wonder if I only made it back because the tide stopped going out.
Safer way to experience the power of the tide/rips/add here , take a small boat out and see how much extra power is needed get back ashore ( engine powered with all the safely gear ) .
The good wife was an Olympic level swimmer and she never wades out into UK seas for a swim. She can still reel off 1000's m's in a pool until bored s
tless! ( just asked her the distance and she said - oh about half the channel ha ha ) .
The good wife was an Olympic level swimmer and she never wades out into UK seas for a swim. She can still reel off 1000's m's in a pool until bored s
tless! ( just asked her the distance and she said - oh about half the channel ha ha ) .Edited by superkartracer on Saturday 27th August 19:53
Vandenberg said:
J4CKO said:
Hopkins has been spreading the love...
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/katie-hopkins...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/katie-hop...
Jesus woman, enough, please fade into obscurity and have a nice, but not too nice life.
It seems the professionally offended have taken the bait yet again and Facebook and twitter are full angry people being er overly angry.http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/katie-hopkins...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/katie-hop...
Jesus woman, enough, please fade into obscurity and have a nice, but not too nice life.
superkartracer said:
Safer way to experience the power of the tide/rips/add here , take a small boat out and see how much extra power is needed get back ashore ( engine powered with all the safely gear ) .
The good wife was an Olympic level swimmer and she never wades out into UK seas for a swim. She can still real off 1000's m's in a pool until bored stless! ( just asked her the distance and she said - oh about half the channel ha ha ) .
Mrs Digga is a very strong swimmer, she seldom swims in the sea and never if it's rough.The good wife was an Olympic level swimmer and she never wades out into UK seas for a swim. She can still real off 1000's m's in a pool until bored s
tless! ( just asked her the distance and she said - oh about half the channel ha ha ) .Edited by superkartracer on Saturday 27th August 09:55
About ten years back we were on the South coast of Crete with my sister and BIL who live there, there can be huge undertow here; earlier in the day we'd seen a woman only knee deep on another beach get swept off her feet by it. Savage.
Notwithstanding this all but my wife thought it would be nice to swim in the breakers on the next beach. For a while, it was fun getting tumbled around and dunked onto the sea bed, but when we tried to swim in, all three of us really strggled. You got in so far and then undertow dragged you back. The beach shelved steeply and it was hard to use your feet to brace once nearly ashore.meven my BIL who knows the place well struggled. It was pretty frightening.
As for those in the OP, horrible way to go. If there is quicksand there, there ought to be some warnings.
The black beach in Iceland is dangerous, due to the lava pebbles that replace the sand and they will not rescue you either due to the waters being so dangerous.
There are signs saying "Do not go into the water or turn you back on the sea" Unfortunately these signs are in the coach park and as we drive ourselves we never saw. My wife decided to wash he hiking boots off by walking into the sea, she thankfully escaped the drag of the sea but other have not been so lucky as we found out later.
The locals call it death beach.
There are signs saying "Do not go into the water or turn you back on the sea" Unfortunately these signs are in the coach park and as we drive ourselves we never saw. My wife decided to wash he hiking boots off by walking into the sea, she thankfully escaped the drag of the sea but other have not been so lucky as we found out later.
The locals call it death beach.
ALawson said:
I am sure I am not that dangerousBut - https://blogs.transparent.com/icelandic/2016/02/11...
As it said it is ok for tourist groups but those independent folk like me never saw then due to the buses there is none or were none on the walking route to the beach.
On a side note the beach was included in the "Game of thrones"
Edited by Allanv on Saturday 27th August 19:47
Smollet said:
I wonder if something has altered? Perhaps sands have shifted a bit, or there's unusual tidal conditions?98elise said:
Ayahuasca said:
TheExcession said:
Interesting thread, not because of all the usual PH bickering and speculation but more because of the fact a few people have told stories of close encounters with death by ocean.
I had a similar experience on an island in Thailand. Bloke in the adjacent hut lent me flippers, snorkel and mask for a bit of a swim in the ocean.
It was so shallow it was almost boring so I paddled out a bit looking for something more interesting. Eventually got bored and decided it was time to swim back to shore.
I was barely out of my depth at this stage and I guess about 4/500 metres from shore. I swam for ages trying to get back to shore and made little to no progress.
I really started to panic then, I just didn't feel I was making any progress and went through the whole 'Oh fvck I'm going to die here now aren't I?'
A horrible horrible horrible experience, I remember swimming on my back and looking left and right to markers on each side of the bay and realising I wasn't getting any closer to shore.
This seemed to go on for ages and eventually I did make it back to land.
I've never swam in the sea since and sincerely hope I never have to again.
I have that T shirt too.I had a similar experience on an island in Thailand. Bloke in the adjacent hut lent me flippers, snorkel and mask for a bit of a swim in the ocean.
It was so shallow it was almost boring so I paddled out a bit looking for something more interesting. Eventually got bored and decided it was time to swim back to shore.
I was barely out of my depth at this stage and I guess about 4/500 metres from shore. I swam for ages trying to get back to shore and made little to no progress.
I really started to panic then, I just didn't feel I was making any progress and went through the whole 'Oh fvck I'm going to die here now aren't I?'
A horrible horrible horrible experience, I remember swimming on my back and looking left and right to markers on each side of the bay and realising I wasn't getting any closer to shore.
This seemed to go on for ages and eventually I did make it back to land.
I've never swam in the sea since and sincerely hope I never have to again.
Snorkelling, when it was time to head back to the beach I realised that no matter how fast I swam, I was going backwards - further out. Obviously I know not to panic, but I panicked big style... ended up crawling to shore hand over hand over sharp coral, got cut to pieces.
I was about 14 at the time and without a doubt I would be dead if I didn't have the flippers on.
They're tricky to spot to the untrained eye but basically sweep you out to sea and very hard to swim against.
If you find yourself bobbing out to sea and can't make any headway back then swim diagonally or parallel along the beach till you're out of the current, THEN try to head back in. Naturally this goes against Human Nature but it'll make your survival chances a lot higher!
I've got a few nice cuts to my feet and shins this week.
At beach (I live in Bali) at weekend and was standing in knee deep water facing inland. I got totally smashed by a wave from behind; knocked me right over then as I was getting back up (spluttering and minus my sunglasses) the backwash pulled my feet from under me and I got dragged along the floor over bits of shell and corral - ouch!
I'm not a tiny chap - weight in at 82kg - and this wave kicked the st out of me!
We've had a few people drowned here by the unexpected large wave...they're just not strong enough to get back on their feet.
Also rips here claim a few lives every year. People still try to swim against them and back to shore, despite all the information out there that says to not do it.
I think part of the problem is that people on holiday seem to throw all common sense to the wind. Like riding scooters here without helmets, as an example.
The sea is very powerful and I am very much in awe of it!
At beach (I live in Bali) at weekend and was standing in knee deep water facing inland. I got totally smashed by a wave from behind; knocked me right over then as I was getting back up (spluttering and minus my sunglasses) the backwash pulled my feet from under me and I got dragged along the floor over bits of shell and corral - ouch!
I'm not a tiny chap - weight in at 82kg - and this wave kicked the s
t out of me!We've had a few people drowned here by the unexpected large wave...they're just not strong enough to get back on their feet.
Also rips here claim a few lives every year. People still try to swim against them and back to shore, despite all the information out there that says to not do it.
I think part of the problem is that people on holiday seem to throw all common sense to the wind. Like riding scooters here without helmets, as an example.
The sea is very powerful and I am very much in awe of it!
20 years ago I was on holiday in Fueteventura, body boarding with another couple on a remote beach miles from civilisation. Neither the girl or lad could swim that well, and they were just messing about in the surf.
Before you knew it she was whisked off and straight out in the rip beyond the break. Looked like she was heading for America. Her boyfriend couldn't go in, luckily I had fins and a bodyboard and took the decision to go in after her. She had popped out of the rip but it took every ounce of my energy to recover her.
After I had laid on the sand recovering for 10 minutes, I looked around and saw they had gone back in the surf!
Before you knew it she was whisked off and straight out in the rip beyond the break. Looked like she was heading for America. Her boyfriend couldn't go in, luckily I had fins and a bodyboard and took the decision to go in after her. She had popped out of the rip but it took every ounce of my energy to recover her.
After I had laid on the sand recovering for 10 minutes, I looked around and saw they had gone back in the surf!
J4CKO said:
I get you but though sometimes she offends those that need offending, these comments were just mean and unnecessary.
AgreedWe have the same old tired complaints about PHs. But the mocking of "promising footballer" was due to the fact the media used it seemingly for every wannabe gangster who had met an untimely demise. Doubtless due to the lack of anything else positive to say about the deceased.
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