5 dead in Camber Sands today

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Pesty

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256 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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Damn more? I was already confused at the ones in the last few days but they were rough seas.

mikees

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172 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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SilverSpur said:
mikees said:
ApOrbital said:
Riptide i would have thought respect the sea it can turn evil.
Rips a possibility but would have thought life guards would be out ASAP should alarm go up. I doubt for one minute it's the daft immigrant angle and if so very tragic but fascinated to know what caused this.
Some reports said there were no life guards on patrol. Not sure if that us valid.
I don't recall it being an RNLI beach due to low risk but thought there used to to be council guards on duty. Maybe mistaken. Always thought it was very calm and swam a lot far our but may have been lucky or mistaken.

Whatever, very sad for all concerned.

SilverSpur

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247 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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The seven previously drowned this weekend was down to severe seas during a summer storm, with people going near visibly dangerous conditions.

The storm however has passed and today's 5 deaths were in calm seas, moreover the firsth three were pulled from the sea by bystanders not professional rescue people.

It also appears they were all men. Not children, not people trying to save someone from drowning etc.


Another thing I have seen reported is that the first three were all treated for heart failure not drowning.

Something odd that five men all die at the same beach in good conditions within minutes of each other.

ashleyman

6,982 posts

99 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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Not sure if it's connected at all but we were in Cornwall until yesterday and on Monday noticed hundreds of Chrysaora hyoscella jelly fish (the ones with brown spots) swimming around. We got out the water straight away as they're nasty little things. My wife even found one washed up on the beach so we buried it before anyone got stung.

I have no idea how you could even drown at Camber Sands unless you are way, way out. That beach is super flat and really slow at dropping down to being deep. Perhaps these guys had nasty reactions to jellyfish stings or got caught when the tide comes in which is quite fast at Camber.

Edited by ashleyman on Thursday 25th August 00:23

don'tbesilly

13,931 posts

163 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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According to some reports the 5 were all young males,fully dressed and of Asian appearance.

Pesty

42,655 posts

256 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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SilverSpur said:
The seven previously drowned this weekend was down to severe seas during a summer storm, with people going near visibly dangerous conditions.

The storm however has passed and today's 5 deaths were in calm seas, moreover the firsth three were pulled from the sea by bystanders not professional rescue people.

It also appears they were all men. Not children, not people trying to save someone from drowning etc.


Another thing I have seen reported is that the first three were all treated for heart failure not drowning.

Something odd that five men all die at the same beach in good conditions within minutes of each other.
Any links to that, sounds very,very odd.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

205 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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don'tbesilly said:
According to some reports the 5 were all young males,fully dressed and of Asian appearance.
Reading between the lines of the various reports it's starting to look that way. Sounds like a possible dinghy from France sinking.

scenario8

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179 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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don'tbesilly said:
According to some reports the 5 were all young males,fully dressed and of Asian appearance.
Right, I've visited the websites of the BBC, Sky News and various traditional national and local media outlets and seen no mention of this whatsoever. One thing that has been remarkable about this story so far has been the little confirmed detail and the large amount of hearsay purporting as fact. Is there any substance to these multiple sources you report? What are these multiple reports?

What is being suggested here?

The whole event is quite peculiar.

An aside. Reading so many news sources on this story it is even more evident how widespread plagiarism is these days and how few primary sources are involved. So sad how far journalism has sunk.

alfie2244

11,292 posts

188 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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ashleyman said:
I have no idea how you could even drown at Camber Sands unless you are way, way out. That beach is super flat and really slow at dropping down to being deep.
Safest beach for kids that I know of.........how 5, possibly 6, male adults drown on it is beyond me. I don't recall strong rips but never went too close to the beach because of how shallow the slope was and the sand bars.

Pesty

42,655 posts

256 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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scenario8 said:
don'tbesilly said:
According to some reports the 5 were all young males,fully dressed and of Asian appearance.
Right, I've visited the websites of the BBC, Sky News and various traditional national and local media outlets and seen no mention of this whatsoever. One thing that has been remarkable about this story so far has been the little confirmed detail and the large amount of hearsay purporting as fact. Is there any substance to these multiple sources you report? What are these multiple reports?

What is being suggested here?

The whole event is quite peculiar.

An aside. Reading so many news sources on this story it is even more evident how widespread plagiarism is these days and how few primary sources are involved. So sad how far journalism has sunk.
Can't find anything either only the opposite

Police "Nothing to suggest the men were migrants "

http://home.bt.com/news/uk-news/three-pulled-from-...

Pesty

42,655 posts

256 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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scenario8 said:
don'tbesilly said:
According to some reports the 5 were all young males,fully dressed and of Asian appearance.
Right, I've visited the websites of the BBC, Sky News and various traditional national and local media outlets and seen no mention of this whatsoever. One thing that has been remarkable about this story so far has been the little confirmed detail and the large amount of hearsay purporting as fact. Is there any substance to these multiple sources you report? What are these multiple reports?

What is being suggested here?

The whole event is quite peculiar.

An aside. Reading so many news sources on this story it is even more evident how widespread plagiarism is these days and how few primary sources are involved. So sad how far journalism has sunk.
Can't find anything either only the opposite

Police "Nothing to suggest the men were migrants "

http://home.bt.com/news/uk-news/three-pulled-from-...

don'tbesilly

13,931 posts

163 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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Pesty said:
scenario8 said:
don'tbesilly said:
According to some reports the 5 were all young males,fully dressed and of Asian appearance.
Right, I've visited the websites of the BBC, Sky News and various traditional national and local media outlets and seen no mention of this whatsoever. One thing that has been remarkable about this story so far has been the little confirmed detail and the large amount of hearsay purporting as fact. Is there any substance to these multiple sources you report? What are these multiple reports?

What is being suggested here?

The whole event is quite peculiar.

An aside. Reading so many news sources on this story it is even more evident how widespread plagiarism is these days and how few primary sources are involved. So sad how far journalism has sunk.
Can't find anything either only the opposite

Police "Nothing to suggest the men were migrants "

http://home.bt.com/news/uk-news/three-pulled-from-...
Try The Sun, members of the public who were on the beach have stated the above.

scenario8

6,559 posts

179 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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don'tbesilly said:
Pesty said:
scenario8 said:
don'tbesilly said:
According to some reports the 5 were all young males,fully dressed and of Asian appearance.
Right, I've visited the websites of the BBC, Sky News and various traditional national and local media outlets and seen no mention of this whatsoever. One thing that has been remarkable about this story so far has been the little confirmed detail and the large amount of hearsay purporting as fact. Is there any substance to these multiple sources you report? What are these multiple reports?

What is being suggested here?

The whole event is quite peculiar.

An aside. Reading so many news sources on this story it is even more evident how widespread plagiarism is these days and how few primary sources are involved. So sad how far journalism has sunk.
Can't find anything either only the opposite

Police "Nothing to suggest the men were migrants "

http://home.bt.com/news/uk-news/three-pulled-from-...
Try The Sun, members of the public who were on the beach have stated the above.
Thanks. Odd that none of the other sources I went to (and there were around a dozen - but none at the sort of journalistic level a snob might consider The Sun) have repeated those quotes. And God knows the media are happy to sit at their desks plagiarising each other. Can't believe The Sun had a reporter on site so I wonder where they are getting their quotes from? Twitter and Facebook?

Who knows?

What an odd incident. Camber Sands is such a "safe" beach.

dandarez

13,282 posts

283 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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Trabi601 said:
Fort Jefferson said:
My guess is they are would be immigrants trying to swim ashore from a boat.
Stop reading the Daily Mail!
You are a wally Trabi.

Don't tell people what to do, why not give us your perspective on the situation...
5 - all men, all clothed, all dead.
Yeah, got to be jellyfish stings, eh?
With loads of other people still swimming in the sea?
Where were their relatives on the beach in panic for their loved ones?
Perhaps it was a group of five guys who decided to take a dip because of the heat and forgot their cossies?

As said, forget the Wail, it says nothing of the sort, what do you think?


Edited by dandarez on Thursday 25th August 01:17

dandarez

13,282 posts

283 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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Pesty said:
scenario8 said:
don'tbesilly said:
According to some reports the 5 were all young males,fully dressed and of Asian appearance.
Right, I've visited the websites of the BBC, Sky News and various traditional national and local media outlets and seen no mention of this whatsoever. One thing that has been remarkable about this story so far has been the little confirmed detail and the large amount of hearsay purporting as fact. Is there any substance to these multiple sources you report? What are these multiple reports?

What is being suggested here?

The whole event is quite peculiar.

An aside. Reading so many news sources on this story it is even more evident how widespread plagiarism is these days and how few primary sources are involved. So sad how far journalism has sunk.
Can't find anything either only the opposite

Police "Nothing to suggest the men were migrants "

http://home.bt.com/news/uk-news/three-pulled-from-...
Chief Superintendent Roskilly, Sussex Police:
'...at this stage we do not know who the men are and are doing all we can to establish their identities.’




Oceanic

731 posts

101 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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I remember my parents taking me there when I was a kid and I was in the water and the tide came in so fast that it took me off the seabed and I had a real struggle to get to the shore, some older kid helped me ashore. I imagine, some people may have got caught out like this perhaps? V.sad :-(

rich85uk

3,367 posts

179 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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Sky News now reporting they were fully clothed

GetCarter

29,377 posts

279 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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Just reported. There were no life guards on the beach.

PositronicRay

27,010 posts

183 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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dandarez said:
Trabi601 said:
Fort Jefferson said:
My guess is they are would be immigrants trying to swim ashore from a boat.
Stop reading the Daily Mail!
You are a wally Trabi.

Don't tell people what to do, why not give us your perspective on the situation...
5 - all men, all clothed, all dead.
Yeah, got to be jellyfish stings, eh?
With loads of other people still swimming in the sea?
Where were their relatives on the beach in panic for their loved ones?
Perhaps it was a group of five guys who decided to take a dip because of the heat and forgot their cossies?

As said, forget the Wail, it says nothing of the sort, what do you think?


Edited by dandarez on Thursday 25th August 01:17
Bodies pulled from sea, not missing from the beach. It's not ridiculous that they came from a boat. No boats reported missing, it sounds similar to the recent events in the Med.

Turquoise

1,457 posts

97 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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Fully clothed, no ID, no relatives on hand to assist authorities.

Pretty obvious what it is, but of the course the first person to suggest it was abused.