Politics in France

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Rich_W

12,548 posts

212 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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AIUI If Le Pen gets 50% of the vote there is no second round.

I can actually see her getting mid 40s

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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An impressive turnout - looks like it will exceed 80%.


Craigyp79

589 posts

183 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Rich_W said:
AIUI If Le Pen gets 50% of the vote there is no second round.

I can actually see her getting mid 40s
Not in her wildest dreams...

Chris944_S2

1,918 posts

223 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Rich_W said:
AIUI If Le Pen gets 50% of the vote there is no second round.

I can actually see her getting mid 40s
I see her getting 25%, and in the run off in the 2nd round only a few % more.
FN is not the same "alt right" as the UKIP, FN is France's BNP despite them trying to pretend they're not racist.

In reality it's between Macron and Fillon, which ever one gets through to the 2nd round will be president. The only one who could create a surprise would be Melanchon if he can somehow get more % than the two more sensible candidates, and then it ends up with two silly parties in the 2nd round.

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

93 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Rich_W said:
AIUI If Le Pen gets 50% of the vote there is no second round.

I can actually see her getting mid 40s
No chance, are you just stabbing away at the dark there or do you actually know what you are talking about?

She'll get somewhere between 20 and 25%, if that gets her to the second round she'll get absolutely trounced by Macron.

Edited by FN2TypeR on Sunday 23 April 17:16

Rich_W

12,548 posts

212 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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FN2TypeR said:
Rich_W said:
AIUI If Le Pen gets 50% of the vote there is no second round.

I can actually see her getting mid 40s
No chance, are you just stabbing away at the dark there or do you actually know what you are talking about?

She'll get somewhere between 20 and 25%, if that gets her to the second round she'll get absolutely trounced by Macron.
Bit of both.

She's been polling mid 20s?? Same as Macron.

But I think back to Remain and POTUS and remember that those who will vote a certain way, didn't "do polls" so given the current and recent past events of France, it may be higher than the MSM expects.

Fillion has little chance of making the second round IMO

FourWheelDrift

88,531 posts

284 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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High turnout to me means the voters are fed up with the establishment and more votes for Le Pen.

Puggit

48,445 posts

248 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Unofficial polls putting Macron ahead and close between Le Pen and Fillon for second. If she makes it through, it will be Macron as president. If she doesn't, it's a toss up.

Yipper

5,964 posts

90 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Turnout has been lower than the previous two elections. And Macron seems to have won.

Despite all the hype, it looks almost certain to be another loss for the far-right (after losing Holland and Austria).

Puggit

48,445 posts

248 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Yipper said:
Turnout has been lower than the previous two elections. And Macron seems to have won.

Despite all the hype, it looks almost certain to be another loss for the far-right (after losing Holland and Austria).
rofl

A loss in politics is when you've had power. Worst case the loss here will be if Le Pen has a smaller %age of the vote. She got 17.9% in 2012...

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Puggit said:
rofl

A loss in politics is when you've had power. Worst case the loss here will be if Le Pen has a smaller %age of the vote. She got 17.9% in 2012...
You don't have to have won previously to lose the current vote.


Puggit

48,445 posts

248 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Le Pen predicted to get 21.7% and in to 2nd round. She's definitely going backwards compared to 3rd place last time around...

Wills2

22,839 posts

175 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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The BBC saying Le Pen and Macron projected to be in a run off.

Ah your post wasn't there as I went to press Puggit.


don'tbesilly

13,933 posts

163 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Looks like it's Macron vs Le Pen in the second round

Macron on 23.7%
Le Pen on 21.7%

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

93 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Rich_W said:
Bit of both.

She's been polling mid 20s?? Same as Macron.

But I think back to Remain and POTUS and remember that those who will vote a certain way, didn't "do polls" so given the current and recent past events of France, it may be higher than the MSM expects.

Fillion has little chance of making the second round IMO
Fillon hasn't made it, it seems.

She now needs to more than double her vote and a lot of people find her repellant - she's been kept at bay through tactical voting before and it'll happen again

French Tony Blair about to be elected, he looks like a callow child.

Puggit

48,445 posts

248 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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If the exit polls are accurate then it's the first time neither main party has made the 2nd round.

Politics continues to turn on its head.

andy_s

19,400 posts

259 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Macron will get the left wing vote left-overs in the run-off, it would have been an interesting dynamic to have seen the euro-deconstructionalist Le Pen win - it may have helped our position vis-a-vis the EU, but I can't see it.

Puggit

48,445 posts

248 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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From Twitter, potentially big news...


grumbledoak

31,535 posts

233 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Now that ^^^ is interesting.

Puggit

48,445 posts

248 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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With 9m votes counted Le Pen on 25%, Macron 21% - Andrew Neil on Twitter