Politics in France
Discussion
"France: #LePen ahead of #Macron and #Fillon and first round (BVA poll)."
https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/8278256497...
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-election-...
Le Pen proposes a 10% tax on all non French employees. Can't see that being a particularly popular move - how many of the essential, but not exactly attractive or well paid, jobs are done by immigrants in France? It'd just push the cost of living up a few %
Le Pen proposes a 10% tax on all non French employees. Can't see that being a particularly popular move - how many of the essential, but not exactly attractive or well paid, jobs are done by immigrants in France? It'd just push the cost of living up a few %
rscott said:
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-election-...
Le Pen proposes a 10% tax on all non French employees. Can't see that being a particularly popular move - how many of the essential, but not exactly attractive or well paid, jobs are done by immigrants in France? It'd just push the cost of living up a few %
Popular amongst the unemployed French though. If Le Pen can show her policies to be supporting the Proles she could win. France is very elitist, and the country versus city dynamic is really strong. Think Londoners versus Norfolk... Le Pen proposes a 10% tax on all non French employees. Can't see that being a particularly popular move - how many of the essential, but not exactly attractive or well paid, jobs are done by immigrants in France? It'd just push the cost of living up a few %
Too difficult to say, the problem is that many everyday people won't publicly declare that they are voting for a party if it is associated with 'extreme' views, so will give pollsters false data a la Brexit/Trump.
If polls say she will make it easy through the second round, then I would wonder how close the runoff will be.
If polls say she will make it easy through the second round, then I would wonder how close the runoff will be.
Budflicker said:
At the moment Le Pen is 3/1 to win the election outright. After Brexit and Trump and the feeling in France of the average French person I wouldn't rule it out.
i can't see it myself, i think the final run off will be as far as she goes. ordinarily that would be the wake up call for change for most sensible people. the eu however .....Le penn looks all set to win through, if this transpires France are heading for the eu exit door. This must signal the death nell for the eu project imo.
Those that work for the French public services enjoy incredible generous perks, use of public facilities FOC for example, very generous maternity leave, sick pay. How the hell France can afford it all I don't know, how long it can last, who knows.
10% extra tax for non Nationals anyone? That's going to hurt.
Those that work for the French public services enjoy incredible generous perks, use of public facilities FOC for example, very generous maternity leave, sick pay. How the hell France can afford it all I don't know, how long it can last, who knows.
10% extra tax for non Nationals anyone? That's going to hurt.
crankedup said:
Le penn looks all set to win through, if this transpires France are heading for the eu exit door. This must signal the death nell for the eu project imo.
Those that work for the French public services enjoy incredible generous perks, use of public facilities FOC for example, very generous maternity leave, sick pay. How the hell France can afford it all I don't know, how long it can last, who knows.
10% extra tax for non Nationals anyone? That's going to hurt.
Even as someone who has great disdain for the EU, Le Pen's France is not something anyone should get excited about.Those that work for the French public services enjoy incredible generous perks, use of public facilities FOC for example, very generous maternity leave, sick pay. How the hell France can afford it all I don't know, how long it can last, who knows.
10% extra tax for non Nationals anyone? That's going to hurt.
Her manifesto is a patchwork quilt of the nuttiest leftist economic policies you've ever heard of with some pretty preposterous far right social ideals.
An organised roll back of the EU to what it was presented as years ago is what is required, not a collapse. Wishful thinking at this stage maybe but a disorganised disintegration from within will create a lot of chaos.
It's certainly going to be interesting as Fillon looks like toast after the scandal, Le Pen who we know has some rather interesting ideas (to say the least) and Macron.
I didn't know that Macron has basically come from nowhere and has only recently set up the party, it's sort of like UKIP in a way with no political infrastructure behind him. He's also looking at getting rid of the 35 hour week.
So you read that Le Pen will likely lose in the second round, but it's not really clear who against!
I didn't know that Macron has basically come from nowhere and has only recently set up the party, it's sort of like UKIP in a way with no political infrastructure behind him. He's also looking at getting rid of the 35 hour week.
So you read that Le Pen will likely lose in the second round, but it's not really clear who against!
Art0ir said:
Even as someone who has great disdain for the EU, Le Pen's France is not something anyone should get excited about.
Her manifesto is a patchwork quilt of the nuttiest leftist economic policies you've ever heard of with some pretty preposterous far right social ideals.
An organised roll back of the EU to what it was presented as years ago is what is required, not a collapse. Wishful thinking at this stage maybe but a disorganised disintegration from within will create a lot of chaos.
Agreed, she has some proper looney tunes policy, highly protectionist, anti immigration, pro deportation of non nationals, high taxes, centralised state etc Her manifesto is a patchwork quilt of the nuttiest leftist economic policies you've ever heard of with some pretty preposterous far right social ideals.
An organised roll back of the EU to what it was presented as years ago is what is required, not a collapse. Wishful thinking at this stage maybe but a disorganised disintegration from within will create a lot of chaos.
However - where have we heard that before in a successful recent election campaign.
I am already on record on here as stating she will win outright, so I am not going to backtrack, however I am NOT a supporter, it would be une castrophe'
Art0ir said:
An organised roll back of the EU to what it was presented as years ago is what is required,
This will not happen. Art0ir said:
not a collapse.
This probably will.Art0ir said:
Wishful thinking at this stage maybe but a disorganised disintegration from within will create a lot of chaos.
Hold tight, it's going to be a wild ride.Art0ir said:
crankedup said:
Le penn looks all set to win through, if this transpires France are heading for the eu exit door. This must signal the death nell for the eu project imo.
Those that work for the French public services enjoy incredible generous perks, use of public facilities FOC for example, very generous maternity leave, sick pay. How the hell France can afford it all I don't know, how long it can last, who knows.
10% extra tax for non Nationals anyone? That's going to hurt.
Even as someone who has great disdain for the EU, Le Pen's France is not something anyone should get excited about.Those that work for the French public services enjoy incredible generous perks, use of public facilities FOC for example, very generous maternity leave, sick pay. How the hell France can afford it all I don't know, how long it can last, who knows.
10% extra tax for non Nationals anyone? That's going to hurt.
Her manifesto is a patchwork quilt of the nuttiest leftist economic policies you've ever heard of with some pretty preposterous far right social ideals.
An organised roll back of the EU to what it was presented as years ago is what is required, not a collapse. Wishful thinking at this stage maybe but a disorganised disintegration from within will create a lot of chaos.
The establishment in the elitist commercial and political world need to take a long hard inward look at themselves.
crankedup said:
Le penn looks all set to win through, if this transpires France are heading for the eu exit door. This must signal the death nell for the eu project imo.
If Martin Schulz wins over Merkel, I wouldn't be surprised if he kept the EU going at any cost even with LePenn causing issues.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff