More fun and games in Calais

[BlackLabel]

France’s interior minister has vowed to dismantle the ‘jungle’ refugee and migrant camp near Calais “as quickly as possible”. Bernard Cazeneuve’s remarks came as the town struggled to cope with a further of influx of refugees and migrants.

[Digga]

BlackLabel said:

France’s interior minister has vowed to dismantle the ‘jungle’ refugee and migrant camp near Calais “as quickly as possible”. Bernard Cazeneuve’s remarks came as the town struggled to cope with a further of influx of refugees and migrants.

Why has it taken the bureaucrats so long to get here? A shanty town, full of overtly illegal and anarchic individuals should never have been allowed to establish next to an internationally important transport hub in the first instance.

[alfie2244]

BlackLabel said:

France’s interior minister has vowed to dismantle the ‘jungle’ refugee and migrant camp near Calais “as quickly as possible”. Bernard Cazeneuve’s remarks came as the town struggled to cope with a further of influx of refugees and migrants.

Serious question..........what happens to them once dismantled?

[Cupramax]

alfie2244 said:

BlackLabel said:

France’s interior minister has vowed to dismantle the ‘jungle’ refugee and migrant camp near Calais “as quickly as possible”. Bernard Cazeneuve’s remarks came as the town struggled to cope with a further of influx of refugees and migrants.

Serious question..........what happens to them once dismantled?

If the French have any sense the same as Germany, record and register the lot of them, offer asylum and distribute throughout France, if they refuse, deport them.

[SPS]

Digga said:

BlackLabel said:

France’s interior minister has vowed to dismantle the ‘jungle’ refugee and migrant camp near Calais “as quickly as possible”. Bernard Cazeneuve’s remarks came as the town struggled to cope with a further of influx of refugees and migrants.

Why has it taken the bureaucrats so long to get here? A shanty town, full of overtly illegal and anarchic individuals should never have been allowed to establish next to an internationally important transport hub in the first instance.

Agreed - and lets also remember that they have crossed most of Western Europe to get there.
It is also true that there are real people who do need our help but then obviously a hell of a lot who don't care what they do or who they hurt to try and get to the UK.
These gangs need rounding up and detaining, then processed and sent back.
Does any country really want idiots like these?
They are tarnishing the genuine refugees/migrants with the same awful brush and need to be stopped by the French and British police.

[WelshChris]

The fact is that British lives are being put at risk on French soil, and the authorities there seem unwilling or unable to do anything about it.

Having been in the international transport business for half of my life I know only too well what's going on in and around the port of Calais and frankly it's frightening. Successive British governments have virtually criminalised British truck drivers who unwittingly bring illegals into the UK, and to top it off they now fear for their lives as well as their livelihoods when using the route.

My view is that if the French can't / won't deal with it then the British army should.

[anonymous-user]

Why not just stop crossings to Calais over the winter for example. Those in the camp will soon disappear. If the problem moves elsewhere- repeat

[Cupramax]

Jimboka said:

Why not just stop crossings to Calais over the winter for example. Those in the camp will soon disappear. If the problem moves elsewhere- repeat

I'm not sure theres the capacity elsewhere to cover it, is there? You do realise just how much freight goes through dont you? Perhaps if it was done in a managed fasion, but not if people just went where they felt like.

[Digga]

In retrospect it was strategically lacking to put the French side of the tunnel so close to the port.

IMHO for the longer term, given the French unions propensity to throwing toys out of Le Pram, a U.K. Benelux tunnel would've been better and might be a good be for the future.

[AJS-]

WelshChris said:

The fact is that British lives are being put at risk on French soil, and the authorities there seem unwilling or unable to do anything about it.

Having been in the international transport business for half of my life I know only too well what's going on in and around the port of Calais and frankly it's frightening. Successive British governments have virtually criminalised British truck drivers who unwittingly bring illegals into the UK, and to top it off they now fear for their lives as well as their livelihoods when using the route.

My view is that if the French can't / won't deal with it then the British army should.

Been thinking along those lines as well. I can't really find any precedent for that sort of action amongst developed countries but the whole situation is absurd and that sort of build up on our borders is a huge security risk amongst other problems.

[Cupramax]

And so it continues...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3772571/Ca...

[HoHoHo]

SPS said:

Agreed - and lets also remember that they have crossed most of Western Europe to get there.
It is also true that there are real people who do need our help but then obviously a hell of a lot who don't care what they do or who they hurt to try and get to the UK.
These gangs need rounding up and detaining, then processed and sent back.
Does any country really want idiots like these?
They are tarnishing the genuine refugees/migrants with the same awful brush and need to be stopped by the French and British police.

Why do they need 'our' help

Why can't the French, Germans, Italians, Spanish or Greek help?

[WelshChris]

AJS- said:

Been thinking along those lines as well. I can't really find any precedent for that sort of action amongst developed countries but the whole situation is absurd and that sort of build up on our borders is a huge security risk amongst other problems.

You're right, there isn't and precedent as far as I know, but equally I'm not sure that there's a precedent for the sort of unchallenged and uncontrolled lawlessness that's going on in and around Calais. Mark my words, somebody WILL die as a result of actions by the thugs that patrol the autoroutes - this has to be stopped now.

It's a political problem of course - isn't everything? - we have far too many balls in the air with the French at the moment, and there's no desire amongst our politicians to upset the apple cart. As usual they're playing games with British citizens lives.

[cayman-black]

Digga said:

Why has it taken the bureaucrats so long to get here? A shanty town, full of overtly illegal and anarchic individuals should never have been allowed to establish next to an internationally important transport hub in the first instance.

Totally agree, why have the French put up with this st for so long. The camp should be cleaned out and the people of Calais can then get there town back , rightly so.

[DrDeAtH]

Couple of 500 pounders would sort the problem....

[number 46]

Finally the frogs have given up with their useless government and are now blockading Calais in protest to get the migrants camp closed.!!! The BBC are almost in tears about it.

[Pan Pan Pan]

BIANCO said:

cayman-black said:

Digga said:

Why has it taken the bureaucrats so long to get here? A shanty town, full of overtly illegal and anarchic individuals should never have been allowed to establish next to an internationally important transport hub in the first instance.

Totally agree, why have the French put up with this st for so long. The camp should be cleaned out and the people of Calais can then get there town back , rightly so.

Because the French want them to get into a truck and make it to the UK then they become our problem not theirs.

The fact that they have reached Calais, is proof that Frances southern border control is not doing its job properly. If they are true refugees they should have stopped at the first safe country they reached and applied for asylum there.
Part of the UK`s problem was that f*ckwit Bliar inviting all and sundry to the UK with promises of a free house, free spending money, and free health care, when anyone with half a brain cell realizes that nothing whatsoever in life is free, someone, somewhere always has to pay for it.
He just wanted to import thousands of potential labour voters grateful to be given free access to the UK`s benefits system in return for a vote for the disastrous labour party which invited them in.

[oyster]

don'tbesilly said:

Sarkozy seems to think the UK should sort the French mess out.
It's amazing that the French have the front to think that there monumental balls up is the fault of the UK!


http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/704596/Nichola...

This is 100% a British problem. These migrants don't come to Calais because it's in France.

[Cupramax]

oyster said:

don'tbesilly said:

Sarkozy seems to think the UK should sort the French mess out.
It's amazing that the French have the front to think that there monumental balls up is the fault of the UK!


http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/704596/Nichola...

This is 100% a British problem. These migrants don't come to Calais because it's in France.

Its 100% a French/EU security problem. Britain will always be a desirable destination, the fact that France has no control whoever enters it is absolutely NOT our problem.

[CrutyRammers]

Pretty poor show when a western country can't keep control of its own highways.