More fun and games in Calais

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anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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PositronicRay

27,060 posts

184 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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techiedave said:
So if she met him in Calais how come he's been "forced to enter the UK in the back of a lorry" and been granted 5 yrs?

Mr Snrub

24,993 posts

228 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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PositronicRay said:
techiedave said:
So if she met him in Calais how come he's been "forced to enter the UK in the back of a lorry" and been granted 5 yrs?
I'm sure his whole family will be invited to the wedding. They can stay for the reception after, then the next few decades............

don4l

10,058 posts

177 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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I came through Calais in a coach today.

The UK Border staff in Calais found 3 illegals on our coach!

Two were in the engine bay, and one was on the front axle.

The driver seems to be very shook up. To be fair, he did search the bus before we took the last part of the journey. I'm not sure why he is so shaken. I have a suspicion that he might be in danger of losing his job.

I must say, the jungle looks horrific. It is the sort of scene that you would expect after an earthquake in a third world country.


anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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don4l said:
I came through Calais in a coach today.
For some bizarre reason that line seems to sound like the opening line of a song
Its got the feel of " I Took A Pill In Ibiza " feel to it

Sorry my ramblings

dandarez

13,294 posts

284 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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don4l said:
I came through Calais in a coach today.

The UK Border staff in Calais found 3 illegals on our coach!

Two were in the engine bay, and one was on the front axle.

The driver seems to be very shook up. To be fair, he did search the bus before we took the last part of the journey. I'm not sure why he is so shaken. I have a suspicion that he might be in danger of losing his job.

I must say, the jungle looks horrific. It is the sort of scene that you would expect after an earthquake in a third world country.
Makes me recall the school kids on their coach trip via Calais. When they arrived back at the school (Henry Box School, in Cameron Town) an 'illegal' dropped from the undercarriage. He had hung on for 170 odd miles! He was quickly arrested by police. Border Force didn't do their job there!

Oh, keep forgetting it's no longer 'Cameron' Town, well it won't be on October 20th.
Wonder where the 'illegal' is now? Wonder how many in truth have succeeded in getting through?

PositronicRay

27,060 posts

184 months

Monday 26th September 2016
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dandarez said:
Makes me recall the school kids on their coach trip via Calais. When they arrived back at the school (Henry Box School, in Cameron Town) an 'illegal' dropped from the undercarriage. He had hung on for 170 odd miles! He was quickly arrested by police. Border Force didn't do their job there!

Oh, keep forgetting it's no longer 'Cameron' Town, well it won't be on October 20th.
Wonder where the 'illegal' is now? Wonder how many in truth have succeeded in getting through?
200 per week getting through is reckoned to be the figure.

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

94 months

Monday 26th September 2016
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Mr Snrub said:
PositronicRay said:
techiedave said:
So if she met him in Calais how come he's been "forced to enter the UK in the back of a lorry" and been granted 5 yrs?
I'm sure his whole family will be invited to the wedding. They can stay for the reception after, then the next few decades............
You are all just jealous of her finding true love.

jester

Puggit

48,490 posts

249 months

Monday 26th September 2016
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don4l said:
I came through Calais in a coach today.

The UK Border staff in Calais found 3 illegals on our coach!

Two were in the engine bay, and one was on the front axle.

The driver seems to be very shook up. To be fair, he did search the bus before we took the last part of the journey. I'm not sure why he is so shaken. I have a suspicion that he might be in danger of losing his job.

I must say, the jungle looks horrific. It is the sort of scene that you would expect after an earthquake in a third world country.
£2k per illegal, isn't it?

I suspect not many fines are being handed out though.

Digga

40,373 posts

284 months

Monday 26th September 2016
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Puggit said:
£2k per illegal, isn't it?

I suspect not many fines are being handed out though.
It would be draconian to prosecute innocent HGV and PSV drivers for the failings of border agencies and security forces in France and England. I'd guess it would be very difficult to resent such a case in a way that could not be reasonably appealed.

Of course deliberate traffickers might not fare so well.

Wobbegong

15,077 posts

170 months

Monday 26th September 2016
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FN2TypeR said:
Mr Snrub said:
PositronicRay said:
techiedave said:
So if she met him in Calais how come he's been "forced to enter the UK in the back of a lorry" and been granted 5 yrs?
I'm sure his whole family will be invited to the wedding. They can stay for the reception after, then the next few decades............
You are all just jealous of her finding true love.

jester
But he is only 13 going by the other Syrians I have seen

Puggit

48,490 posts

249 months

Monday 26th September 2016
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Hollande wants to completely dismantle 'the Jungle'... Wants us to play our part, though...

http://news.sky.com/story/calais-camp-must-be-comp...

del mar

2,838 posts

200 months

Monday 26th September 2016
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don4l said:
I came through Calais in a coach today.

The UK Border staff in Calais found 3 illegals on our coach!

Two were in the engine bay, and one was on the front axle.

The driver seems to be very shook up. To be fair, he did search the bus before we took the last part of the journey. I'm not sure why he is so shaken. I have a suspicion that he might be in danger of losing his job.

I must say, the jungle looks horrific. It is the sort of scene that you would expect after an earthquake in a third world country.
Truly shocking story.

What is a man with several thousand posts on PH doing on a coach !!!



anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 26th September 2016
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Puggit said:
Hollande wants to completely dismantle 'the Jungle'... Wants us to play our part, though...

http://news.sky.com/story/calais-camp-must-be-comp...
Policing their own external boarders would be a start.

Puggit

48,490 posts

249 months

Monday 26th September 2016
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jsf said:
Puggit said:
Hollande wants to completely dismantle 'the Jungle'... Wants us to play our part, though...

http://news.sky.com/story/calais-camp-must-be-comp...
Policing their own external boarders would be a start.
They're not allowed to!

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 26th September 2016
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Puggit said:
jsf said:
Puggit said:
Hollande wants to completely dismantle 'the Jungle'... Wants us to play our part, though...

http://news.sky.com/story/calais-camp-must-be-comp...
Policing their own external boarders would be a start.
They're not allowed to!
They are obligated to on their coast. They also have an obligation to ensure the other members of their club do likewise on the other external boarders of the EU. It's not the UK that has allowed the camp in Calais to be erected by people they know are illegals either.

JNW1

7,804 posts

195 months

Monday 26th September 2016
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jsf said:
Puggit said:
jsf said:
Puggit said:
Hollande wants to completely dismantle 'the Jungle'... Wants us to play our part, though...

http://news.sky.com/story/calais-camp-must-be-comp...
Policing their own external boarders would be a start.
They're not allowed to!
They are obligated to on their coast. They also have an obligation to ensure the other members of their club do likewise on the other external boarders of the EU. It's not the UK that has allowed the camp in Calais to be erected by people they know are illegals either.
I'm sure this is an over-simplistic view but if these people are non-EU nationals they're either refugees or economic migrants and surely that ought to be determined at the point at which they reach the EU? If they're economic migrants they just get refused entry, if they're genuine refugees they claim asylum in the first safe country they reach. Now I accept that approach would place considerable pressure on countries like Greece and Italy and it would be up to the EU to help resource any border control facilities; for genuine refugees I think it would also be up to all EU countries to take a fair share of those people as leaving the countries of entry to deal with them all would seem a tad unfair. However, just allowing thousands of economic migrants and refugees to trek across Europe to Calais - which is what we seem to have at the moment - surely can't be right?

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

94 months

Monday 26th September 2016
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Wobbegong said:
FN2TypeR said:
Mr Snrub said:
PositronicRay said:
techiedave said:
So if she met him in Calais how come he's been "forced to enter the UK in the back of a lorry" and been granted 5 yrs?
I'm sure his whole family will be invited to the wedding. They can stay for the reception after, then the next few decades............
You are all just jealous of her finding true love.

jester
But he is only 13 going by the other Syrians I have seen
Touchè

don4l

10,058 posts

177 months

Monday 26th September 2016
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del mar said:
don4l said:
I came through Calais in a coach today.

The UK Border staff in Calais found 3 illegals on our coach!

Two were in the engine bay, and one was on the front axle.

The driver seems to be very shook up. To be fair, he did search the bus before we took the last part of the journey. I'm not sure why he is so shaken. I have a suspicion that he might be in danger of losing his job.

I must say, the jungle looks horrific. It is the sort of scene that you would expect after an earthquake in a third world country.
Truly shocking story.

What is a man with several thousand posts on PH doing on a coach !!!
Thanks for making me smile.

It is indeed the first time that I have been on a coach in at least 35 years.

The, rather sad, answer to your question is that I have spent the last few days touring first world war battlefields.

Digga

40,373 posts

284 months

Monday 26th September 2016
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don4l said:
The, rather sad, answer to your question is that I have spent the last few days touring first world war battlefields.
Nothing sad about that. The two world wars are something none of us should ever be allowed to forget.

I am hoping, on my way to or from the 'Ring, to call in and see the very field where my paternal grandfather was hit twice (well three times, if you count the bullet that shredded the book in his backpack) by German machine gun fire in WW1, aged 20. Half his regiment were wiped out in a day, most of the injuries and fatalities in the first hour of the advance. That he survived was a minor miracle, but without infection or amputation (he 'adopted' one of the nurses in the field hospital who persuaded the surgeon) is incredibly good fortune.