More fun and games in Calais

[monamimate]

Crumpet said:

monamimate said:

I can only asssume you are trying to be funny, or have a fairly selective choice of fora...

I live on the continent and have yet to meet a single person who thinks the UK made a sensible decision.

Well, for balance, I work for a company based on the 'continent' - many (most) of my colleagues are European. I'm yet to meet a single one that thinks we made the wrong decision. Many are a little bit envious.

They're just being polite.

[gooner1]

monamimate said:

gooner1 said:

monamimate said:

I can only asssume you are trying to be funny, or have a fairly selective choice of fora...

I live on the continent and have yet to meet a single person who thinks the UK made a sensible decision.

I spend a good part of my time in Greece and I have yet to meet a Greek that thinks we made the wrong
choice. They only wish they were in a position to do the same.

Greece? The sick child of Europe? Well there's a quality reference!

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Hence the "They only wish they were in a position to do the same"

[s3fella]

I don't know how the authorities are even allowed to put up these barracades to stop people seeing who we are letting in the country? Don't we, the public, have a right to know?
Are these barracades in public places, in which case, who has granted permission for them to put up the barriers?
I can be photo's in public but anyone else, why can't these migrants?

One rule for one......

The irony is that they probably invited the press along last week to see these "kids" coming in, to show what a nice bunch of saps, sorry people we are, to let Europe and our lefty friends know how nice we are, but of course, like all public departments, they cannot organise a fking piss up in a brewery, and it all backfires on them, And all it shows is what a bunch of useless, naive PC s we have in the echelons of power in such organisations, how detached from reality they are, and sends a signal to millions of other "do as I likeys" throughout the world, that we are a bunch of stupid tts, too PC for our own good.

It's about time we started being able to vote in and vote out people in public office. Because at the minute we seems to have a bunch of PC pricks in charge, who have no fking clue.

[gooner1]

monamimate said:

gooner1 said:

monamimate said:

I can only asssume you are trying to be funny, or have a fairly selective choice of fora...

I live on the continent and have yet to meet a single person who thinks the UK made a sensible decision.

I spend a good part of my time in Greece and I have yet to meet a Greek that thinks we made the wrong
choice. They only wish they were in a position to do the same.

Greece? The sick child of Europe? Well there's a quality reference!

.


Btw, Greece was a very poorly child long before it was adopted by the EU, which begs the question as to why it was allowed to join.

[Esseesse]

Who are the charities bringing them in? I'd be interested to see who funds them.

Am I right in thinking that one 'child' we discovered was not a child because we discovered his fingerprints in a crime database here? Also presumably since he therefore was here once and then no longer was here, did he leave before because he was deported for a crime?

[BlackLabel]

Esseesse said:

Who are the charities bringing them in? I'd be interested to see who funds them.

The French government fund the main one.

"Who selects the child migrants?

All of the child migrants brought to the UK by the Home Office this week were identified by the French charity France terre d’asile (France Haven), which runs food stations and other services at the Jungle paid for by the French government. Until this week, others were identified and age-checked by British charities including Citizens UK, which have been working in Calais for months, but the Home Office took over from them this week."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/qa-who-decides-w...

[Esseesse]

BlackLabel said:

Esseesse said:

Who are the charities bringing them in? I'd be interested to see who funds them.

The French government fund the main one.

"Who selects the child migrants?

All of the child migrants brought to the UK by the Home Office this week were identified by the French charity France terre d’asile (France Haven), which runs food stations and other services at the Jungle paid for by the French government. Until this week, others were identified and age-checked by British charities including Citizens UK, which have been working in Calais for months, but the Home Office took over from them this week."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/qa-who-decides-w...

Interesting, thank you.

I find this quote about Citizens UK about another occassion on Breitbart (yes yes) and elsewhere...

Breitbart said:

Welcoming the migrants to London was a growing crowd of pro-mass migration activists, led by the Citizens UK group, who are funded by liberal billionaire George Soros and his Open Societies Foundation.

[anonymous-user]

s3fella said:

I don't know how the authorities are even allowed to put up these barracades to stop people seeing who we are letting in the country? Don't we, the public, have a right to know?
Are these barracades in public places, in which case, who has granted permission for them to put up the barriers?
I can be photo's in public but anyone else, why can't these migrants?

One rule for one......

The irony is that they probably invited the press along last week to see these "kids" coming in, to show what a nice bunch of saps, sorry people we are, to let Europe and our lefty friends know how nice we are, but of course, like all public departments, they cannot organise a fking piss up in a brewery, and it all backfires on them, And all it shows is what a bunch of useless, naive PC s we have in the echelons of power in such organisations, how detached from reality they are, and sends a signal to millions of other "do as I likeys" throughout the world, that we are a bunch of stupid tts, too PC for our own good.

It's about time we started being able to vote in and vote out people in public office. Because at the minute we seems to have a bunch of PC pricks in charge, who have no fking clue.

Absolutely completely 100% spot on .

Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 23 October 22:05

[HerrSchnell]

gooner1 said:

Btw, Greece was a very poorly child long before it was adopted by the EU, which begs the question as to why it was allowed to join.

Greek entry allowed the EU to act as a smokescreen for the recapitalisation of the German banks which have been Greece's major creditors for a very long time.

According to the European School of Management and Technology, cited in Deutsche World (other sources are available), 95% of the EU bailout money sent to Greece ended up with the banks, mainly German:

http://www.dw.com/en/most-of-greek-bailout-money-w...

The concept that the EU's austerity programme has been nothing more than a way to redirect tax revenues to banks is explained more fully in this interview with Mark Blyth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGvZil0qWPg&fe...

[Digga]

HerrSchnell said:

gooner1 said:

Btw, Greece was a very poorly child long before it was adopted by the EU, which begs the question as to why it was allowed to join.

Greek entry allowed the EU to act as a smokescreen for the recapitalisation of the German banks which have been Greece's major creditors for a very long time.

According to the European School of Management and Technology, cited in Deutsche World (other sources are available), 95% of the EU bailout money sent to Greece ended up with the banks, mainly German:

http://www.dw.com/en/most-of-greek-bailout-money-w...

The concept that the EU's austerity programme has been nothing more than a way to redirect tax revenues to banks is explained more fully in this interview with Mark Blyth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGvZil0qWPg&fe...

As I understood it, one of the reasons the debt warehousing deal between GS and Greece was overlooked was because Germany was also doing a bit of it at the time too.

Anyway, as for Greece, there's the official figures and the actual picture. People are still out in the cafes and bars as usual and there is certainly a huge amount of the economy operating beneath the radar - the black market - hence the apparent lack of austerity and the difficulty of using GDP and unemployment figures to measure activity. The ability of the Greek government to manage what was a very anarchic economy in any case has been made even more difficult, post GFC.

[BlackLabel]

"Calais 'jungle' demolition: French officials warn up to 200 British anarchists set to wreak havoc in camp as first bus departs with migrants on board"

telegraph said:

French police have also warned that a group of British anarchists are attempting to disrupt the operation.

"Considering activists from hard-Left group No Borders have arrived in the Calais area and have set up home in squats, there is a high risk the activists have penetrated the camp with a view to influencing the migrants as they did in March," a police spokesman for the Calais region said.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/24/calais-jungle-demolition-riots-and-chaos-as-police-warn-that-bri/

[Mr Snrub]

BlackLabel said:

"Calais 'jungle' demolition: French officials warn up to 200 British anarchists set to wreak havoc in camp as first bus departs with migrants on board"

telegraph said:

French police have also warned that a group of British anarchists are attempting to disrupt the operation.

"Considering activists from hard-Left group No Borders have arrived in the Calais area and have set up home in squats, there is a high risk the activists have penetrated the camp with a view to influencing the migrants as they did in March," a police spokesman for the Calais region said.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/24/calais-jungle-demolition-riots-and-chaos-as-police-warn-that-bri/

Since they don't believe in borders could we ship them back to Syria?

[Mothersruin]

Luckily they are sending the 'children' they relocate somewhere appropriate and not to a small town in Devon that doesn't have anywhere near the resources.

[Digga]

Mr Snrub said:

BlackLabel said:

"Calais 'jungle' demolition: French officials warn up to 200 British anarchists set to wreak havoc in camp as first bus departs with migrants on board"

telegraph said:

French police have also warned that a group of British anarchists are attempting to disrupt the operation.

"Considering activists from hard-Left group No Borders have arrived in the Calais area and have set up home in squats, there is a high risk the activists have penetrated the camp with a view to influencing the migrants as they did in March," a police spokesman for the Calais region said.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/24/calais-jungle-demolition-riots-and-chaos-as-police-warn-that-bri/

Since they don't believe in borders could we ship them back to Syria?

Let's hope the French police give them a lesson in quite how restrained the UK's forces are with these time-wasting, soap-dodging idiots.

[italianjob1275]

The women and children queue seems to be struggling to keep up with demand...

[Guybrush]

Pesty said:

monamimate said:

The Brits are the laughing stock of the world following the brexit decision, driven by the same kind of "expert thinking" as in this thread, so maybe you should reflect a little on who the real idiots are here.

Not the impression I get from various foreign forums. The general feeling is we did good by standing up for our country.

It's only quite frankly pathetic bitter remainers kicking out cheap jibes that say things like that.

Exactly. It would seem Europe's electorate generally would love the opportunity for a referendum on their own membership of the bankrupt club. Thank goodness we have a Tory government which adheres to the free thinking principle and gave us a voice. The handringing left would never have given us a vote - they think they know what's best for us.

[Cupramax]

Guybrush said:

Exactly. It would seem Europe's electorate generally would love the opportunity for a referendum on their own membership of the bankrupt club. Thank goodness we have a Tory government which adheres to the free thinking principle and gave us a voice. The handringing left would never have given us a vote - they think they know what's best for us.

I'm not sure the Tories would have either if they knew the outcome...

[Guybrush]

Cupramax said:

Guybrush said:

Exactly. It would seem Europe's electorate generally would love the opportunity for a referendum on their own membership of the bankrupt club. Thank goodness we have a Tory government which adheres to the free thinking principle and gave us a voice. The handringing left would never have given us a vote - they think they know what's best for us.

I'm not sure the Tories would have either if they knew the outcome...

Maybe it was a gamble, but I'm glad they were 'man enough' to make it.

[gooner1]

Guybrush said:

Cupramax said:

Guybrush said:

Exactly. It would seem Europe's electorate generally would love the opportunity for a referendum on their own membership of the bankrupt club. Thank goodness we have a Tory government which adheres to the free thinking principle and gave us a voice. The handringing left would never have given us a vote - they think they know what's best for us.

I'm not sure the Tories would have either if they knew the outcome...

Maybe it was a gamble, but I'm glad they were 'man enough' to make it.

If they were"man enough", why did the head honcho leg it so speedily?

[Guybrush]

gooner1 said:

Guybrush said:

Cupramax said:

Guybrush said:

Exactly. It would seem Europe's electorate generally would love the opportunity for a referendum on their own membership of the bankrupt club. Thank goodness we have a Tory government which adheres to the free thinking principle and gave us a voice. The handringing left would never have given us a vote - they think they know what's best for us.

I'm not sure the Tories would have either if they knew the outcome...

Maybe it was a gamble, but I'm glad they were 'man enough' to make it.

If they were"man enough", why did the head honcho leg it so speedily?

So what? I'm not sure that matters, the government had the balls to give us a voice. The left would never have done that, and even if they did, they would probably have had a second referendum (and then a third?) until they got the answer they wanted.