More fun and games in Calais

[B'stard Child]

gooner1 said:

If they were"man enough", why did the head honcho leg it so speedily?

Do you need to ask???

Perhaps it wasn't the result he expected or wanted

Perhaps he'd have to eat humble pie of the outrageous claims of the remain camp that he had hoped would win the day

Either way he was a spineless and good riddance

[Guybrush]

B'stard Child said:

gooner1 said:

If they were"man enough", why did the head honcho leg it so speedily?

Do you need to ask???

Perhaps it wasn't the result he expected or wanted

Perhaps he'd have to eat humble pie of the outrageous claims of the remain camp that he had hoped would win the day

Either way he was a spineless and good riddance

But not in any way as "spineless" as Broon, Millibland, Bliar and so on who would never have the balls to give us a vote.

[gooner1]

Guybrush said:

B'stard Child said:

gooner1 said:

If they were"man enough", why did the head honcho leg it so speedily?

Do you need to ask???

Perhaps it wasn't the result he expected or wanted

Perhaps he'd have to eat humble pie of the outrageous claims of the remain camp that he had hoped would win the day

Either way he was a spineless and good riddance

But not in any way as "spineless" as Broon, Millibland, Bliar and so on who would never have the balls to give us a vote.

So it's just degrees of spinelessness that are in question.

[jshell]

gooner1 said:

Guybrush said:

B'stard Child said:

gooner1 said:

If they were"man enough", why did the head honcho leg it so speedily?

Do you need to ask???

Perhaps it wasn't the result he expected or wanted

Perhaps he'd have to eat humble pie of the outrageous claims of the remain camp that he had hoped would win the day

Either way he was a spineless and good riddance

But not in any way as "spineless" as Broon, Millibland, Bliar and so on who would never have the balls to give us a vote.

So it's just degrees of spinelessness that are in question.

Guy's a bit delusional, imho. Labour wouldn't have given the referendum as they would have known the result. CMD was daft enough not to know and was caught out badly, so he legged it fast!

[Cobnapint]

Mothersruin said:

Luckily they are sending the 'children' they relocate somewhere appropriate and not to a small town in Devon that doesn't have anywhere near the resources.

Quite. I bet the residents of Great Torrington were happy to have been asked if they wanted to take part in the relocation of these upcoming doctors and engineers. They must have leapt at the chance.

First things first though. To ensure the safety of these children, they need to distribute shavers. ASAP.

[Goaty Bill 2]

HerrSchnell said:

Greek entry allowed the EU to act as a smokescreen for the recapitalisation of the German banks which have been Greece's major creditors for a very long time.

According to the European School of Management and Technology, cited in Deutsche World (other sources are available), 95% of the EU bailout money sent to Greece ended up with the banks, mainly German:

http://www.dw.com/en/most-of-greek-bailout-money-w...

The concept that the EU's austerity programme has been nothing more than a way to redirect tax revenues to banks is explained more fully in this interview with Mark Blyth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGvZil0qWPg&fe...

Great links thanks.
Mark Blyth is excellent. I may even buy the book.

[Mothersruin]

Cobnapint said:

Mothersruin said:

Luckily they are sending the 'children' they relocate somewhere appropriate and not to a small town in Devon that doesn't have anywhere near the resources.

Quite. I bet the residents of Great Torrington were happy to have been asked if they wanted to take part in the relocation of these upcoming doctors and engineers. They must have leapt at the chance.

First things first though. To ensure the safety of these children, they need to distribute shavers. ASAP.

I missed the actual place name as I was driving earlier but 5 Live were going to interview a few residents of a small village of 700 people that were having 100 single male immigrants foisted on them.

Bonkers.

[Cobnapint]

Mothersruin said:

Cobnapint said:

Mothersruin said:

Luckily they are sending the 'children' they relocate somewhere appropriate and not to a small town in Devon that doesn't have anywhere near the resources.

Quite. I bet the residents of Great Torrington were happy to have been asked if they wanted to take part in the relocation of these upcoming doctors and engineers. They must have leapt at the chance.

First things first though. To ensure the safety of these children, they need to distribute shavers. ASAP.

I missed the actual place name as I was driving earlier but 5 Live were going to interview a few residents of a small village of 700 people that were having 100 single male immigrants foisted on them.

Bonkers.

Just inland from Westward Ho, Croyde and Clovelly.

Should be nice...!

[steveT350C]

In a hotel, BBC News on the TV, no sound but subtitles..

rather odd watching the images of the camp occupants being moved; hundreds of adult males shown in the camp, a few scuffles, then on buses, arriving at new temp accommodation and having wrist bands put on, all the while the subtitles talking about 'children'.

[Guybrush]

gooner1 said:

Guybrush said:

B'stard Child said:

gooner1 said:

If they were"man enough", why did the head honcho leg it so speedily?

Do you need to ask???

Perhaps it wasn't the result he expected or wanted

Perhaps he'd have to eat humble pie of the outrageous claims of the remain camp that he had hoped would win the day

Either way he was a spineless and good riddance

But not in any way as "spineless" as Broon, Millibland, Bliar and so on who would never have the balls to give us a vote.

So it's just degrees of spinelessness that are in question.

Not by me.

[Mr GrimNasty]

steveT350C said:

In a hotel, BBC News on the TV, no sound but subtitles..

rather odd watching the images of the camp occupants being moved; hundreds of adult males shown in the camp, a few scuffles, then on buses, arriving at new temp accommodation and having wrist bands put on, all the while the subtitles talking about 'children'.

Reporting live from Devon today (or wherever they sent 20 of these darlings), the female BBC reporter called them "young men" before quickly correcting herself "errr, errr sorry I meant male children".

Difficult having to remember to lie all the time isn't it.

[dudleybloke]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-37753713

[230TE]

Mr GrimNasty said:

Reporting live from Devon today (or wherever they sent 20 of these darlings), the female BBC reporter called them "young men" before quickly correcting herself "errr, errr sorry I meant male children".

Difficult having to remember to lie all the time isn't it.

BBC now reporting that three of the poor little mites have been "sent back" (presumably to Lunar House) for being obviously over 18. Something tells me we're not getting the full story about this great humanitarian gesture of ours.

[steveT350C]

Mr GrimNasty said:

steveT350C said:

In a hotel, BBC News on the TV, no sound but subtitles..

rather odd watching the images of the camp occupants being moved; hundreds of adult males shown in the camp, a few scuffles, then on buses, arriving at new temp accommodation and having wrist bands put on, all the while the subtitles talking about 'children'.

Reporting live from Devon today (or wherever they sent 20 of these darlings), the female BBC reporter called them "young men" before quickly correcting herself "errr, errr sorry I meant male children".

Difficult having to remember to lie all the time isn't it.

The Newspeak used by the BBC is so blatant.

[anonymous-user]

dudleybloke said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-37753713

Chi Onwurah should realise that people can and do have opinions that will differ from hers. She might also reflect on the fact that joe public might, just might think they have been shat on.

[Cupramax]

And continue to be...

[Guybrush]

At least Sky news didn't seem to try desperately to find the one or two women and / or children amongst all the men. It was quite obvious that most of them were from African regions, simply seeing a chance to 'hitch a ride' in on the general wave of people movement. But, the question remains, why once in the west / Europe do they seem to bypass Italy, Germany, Austria, France and others to camp out in squalor to get to the UK?

[Cobnapint]

It looked like a North African free for all didn't it? And that's what it is.

We, after helping complete the initial part of their journey with our heroic Royal Navy picking them up and dropping them off, fed and watered, in Southern Europe - we are now helping reunite, this end, some of those who didn't make it, with some of those that did.

[230TE]

Guybrush said:

At least Sky news didn't seem to try desperately to find the one or two women and / or children amongst all the men. It was quite obvious that most of them were from African regions, simply seeing a chance to 'hitch a ride' in on the general wave of people movement. But, the question remains, why once in the west / Europe do they seem to bypass Italy, Germany, Austria, France and others to camp out in squalor to get to the UK?

Two things I can think of:

1. Language. Most of them seem to speak a bit of English, it being the world's most popular second language. Far fewer have any German or Italian. Ideally they'd head for the USA but you can't cross the Atlantic in a rubber boat with a Chinese outboard motor, so we're the next best thing.

2. Improbable though this may seem to self-loathing white metro-libs, Britain has a worldwide reputation for decency, fair play and the rule of law. People from corrupt, unstable, incompetently run countries find that prospect rather attractive. We should be very proud that so very many people want to come here. That doesn't mean that we have to let them all in though. Applying the same rules to everyone is fair and just, and in that context this latest development - turning a blind eye to migrants who are obviously lying about their age and probably about their UK family connections as well, and then trying to cover it up - is an absolute disgrace. In most countries you'd have to bribe officials to get away with this kind of scam: would-be bogus asylum seekers must now be wondering whose palms they need to grease. Not our finest hour, but no doubt all concerned feel terribly virtuous about the "children" they have "saved".

[andymc]

93% men in the jungle, hardly refugees