Jeremy Vine pushbike - incident
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There was a point in the video where, to be absolutely fair, he might have let the car past but could easily have not realised it was there. As the car beeped, he was about to pass an area of clear kerb where he might feasibly pull over to allow her past - giving the benefit of the doubt, a mere toot of the horn could just be "I'm here" not "I'm going to bulldoze you off the road".
Stopping in the middle of the road like that was almost guaranteed to escalate the situation - a major button pressed, needlessly. She was in the wrong from that point onward, but he was not entirely correct.
Stopping in the middle of the road like that was almost guaranteed to escalate the situation - a major button pressed, needlessly. She was in the wrong from that point onward, but he was not entirely correct.
FN2TypeR said:
MarshPhantom said:
FN2TypeR said:
Self important scum bags are everywhere now, sadly.
Are you talking about the driver or Vine? Or both?
t, he does do the bike equivlant of brake testing her. I would have waved, got past the cars and let her go past.
If i was her i must admit i might have got out and called him a
a few times, but not for his riding, maybe she just recognised him?walm said:
Well according to the OP and other regular cycle-haters on this thread...
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
...it's his fault for not getting out of her way immediately.
Holding her up like that is absolutely unacceptable even for a moment.
I don't think anyone is saying that, but he was a fool for stopping infront of her with his passive aggressive attitude, trying to 'explain' to her where she was going wrong. As he was too, for sweetly pedalling off again in front of her, when all he wanted was the material to tweet about. She was completely wrong, but he's just a dhttp://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
...it's his fault for not getting out of her way immediately.
Holding her up like that is absolutely unacceptable even for a moment.
head for his subsequent holier than thou, antagonistic, pious attitude. Would I have moved over? No, clearly there wasn't room for her to get pass anyway even if he was too close to some of the parked cars, and he needs to dominate his space, safely and considerately. I would have continued on my way and at the first opportunity, hope she safely passed me, whether that was when the road widened, or at a junction etc. Ginge R said:
walm said:
Well according to the OP and other regular cycle-haters on this thread...
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
...it's his fault for not getting out of her way immediately.
Holding her up like that is absolutely unacceptable even for a moment.
I don't think anyone is saying that... http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
...it's his fault for not getting out of her way immediately.
Holding her up like that is absolutely unacceptable even for a moment.
spookly said:
Oh, no... you just want me to sit behind you but make a lame excuse for why you getting in the way is acceptable...
Agree with everything else you have said though.For everyone's sake you want someone like that in front of you as soon as is practical.
"Lecturing" them is escalation 101.
Life is too (brutish and) short.
It's very narrow, and even if he did let her past, she shouldn't really be safely driving at a speed faster than he can cycle there, what with the risk of hitting a parked car or a ped.
If anything it provides gainful employment to moderators of the Daily Wail online - my comment, "she needs a good kick in the see u next tuesday " didn't get past their mods.
If anything it provides gainful employment to moderators of the Daily Wail online - my comment, "she needs a good kick in the see u next tuesday " didn't get past their mods.
i know that road really well.
i'm far from the first to defend cyclists, but that road is way too narrow for a bike and a car.
It's also a slow back road because ahead there's a tight width restriction and turning right there's a pedestrian crossing in non-stop use. It's slow. She turns left at the end of the video, suggesting to me that she deliberately followed him, otherwise she'd have gone straight after the fist altercation.
Untaxed too, then bib should be round and throw the book at her.
i'm far from the first to defend cyclists, but that road is way too narrow for a bike and a car.
It's also a slow back road because ahead there's a tight width restriction and turning right there's a pedestrian crossing in non-stop use. It's slow. She turns left at the end of the video, suggesting to me that she deliberately followed him, otherwise she'd have gone straight after the fist altercation.
Untaxed too, then bib should be round and throw the book at her.
She should be arrested for that aggressive outburst BUT....
Why does he feel it is perfectly fine to deliberately cycle in the middle of the road slowly meaning no vehicle can pass him without the need to pull over? Fine I get the argument about cars doors opening but does this mean cars should wait behind him the whole time he cycles on roads like this?
He could of pulled over rather than stop and block the road, even after the incident he carries on without letting her or the van past and surprise surprise she gets more angry....
some mirrors and politely pulling over when your holding up traffic would be the decent thing to do
Why does he feel it is perfectly fine to deliberately cycle in the middle of the road slowly meaning no vehicle can pass him without the need to pull over? Fine I get the argument about cars doors opening but does this mean cars should wait behind him the whole time he cycles on roads like this?
He could of pulled over rather than stop and block the road, even after the incident he carries on without letting her or the van past and surprise surprise she gets more angry....
some mirrors and politely pulling over when your holding up traffic would be the decent thing to do
Ginge R said:
She's clearly a maniac and he, an annoying bloke trying to get some go-pro footage for his social media account. He goaded her; why did he stop right in front of her, and why, after he finished trying to 'patiently explain' things to her, he continued in front of her, heaven only knows. Why he didn't simply park up in the huge space alongside and let the deranged woman pass instead of provoking her, is anyone's guess. I'm not justifying her driving or response, but he did at least, confirm my suspicion of him.
I disagree, he had as much right to be there as she, however he was riding his bike, she on the other hand should loose he liscence (for that behaviour)if she has one, and maybe be prosecuted for threatening behaviour and assult, whatever people on here think of him, he did nothing wrong, I wonder if people would feel he somehow did something wrong if it were there wives or children in vine's position.I'm sure we've all been stuck behind cyclists where we've wanted to give them a piece of our mind over their riding, I know I have.
Difference is 99% of us don't do it. The woman's a danger to others and the next guy/girl on a bike might not be so lucky as to just have her mouth off.
Of all the ways to get your 15 minutes of fame
Difference is 99% of us don't do it. The woman's a danger to others and the next guy/girl on a bike might not be so lucky as to just have her mouth off.
Of all the ways to get your 15 minutes of fame
Both idiots but the cyclists on this thread won't be able to see that and will spin this to being a them and us situation between all cyclists and all car drivers rather than between two idiots cos it fits the posters monumentally daft lycra leanings.
I've cycled for thirty odd years alone and with family. Never managed to need to wear lycra and never managed to outrage the driver behind me.
If there was any interest I'd let them know the simple secret.
I've cycled for thirty odd years alone and with family. Never managed to need to wear lycra and never managed to outrage the driver behind me.
If there was any interest I'd let them know the simple secret.
rich85uk said:
She should be arrested for that aggressive outburst BUT....
Why does he feel it is perfectly fine to deliberately cycle in the middle of the road slowly meaning no vehicle can pass him without the need to pull over? Fine I get the argument about cars doors opening but does this mean cars should wait behind him the whole time he cycles on roads like this?
He could of pulled over rather than stop and block the road, even after the incident he carries on without letting her or the van past and surprise surprise she gets more angry....
some mirrors and politely pulling over when your holding up traffic would be the decent thing to do
The average speed of traffic in central London is 7MPH, cycling is quicker than driving...Why does he feel it is perfectly fine to deliberately cycle in the middle of the road slowly meaning no vehicle can pass him without the need to pull over? Fine I get the argument about cars doors opening but does this mean cars should wait behind him the whole time he cycles on roads like this?
He could of pulled over rather than stop and block the road, even after the incident he carries on without letting her or the van past and surprise surprise she gets more angry....
some mirrors and politely pulling over when your holding up traffic would be the decent thing to do
In this particular situation he was positioned correctly, it wasn't safe for her to overtake.
Edited by WinstonWolf on Tuesday 30th August 18:32
It's getting silly the people who think cyclists should instantly dive for the kerb. Putting yourself in a good place in the road to stop people making dangerous overtakes is a sensible thing to do in a tight road like that, and letting people like her bully you out of the road will just make things worse.
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