Jeremy Vine pushbike - incident
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80sMatchbox said:
George has to be on the wind up, you're not fooling me. 
Unfortunately anti cyclist threads are his hobby, http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
George111 said:
The roads are not to be clogged up by bicyclists wiggling about at walking pace in the middle of the road, it's an obstruction - illegal. Cycle at the side of the road not blocking it and all is fine...
Obviously too obtuse to realise that the cyclist was only in the middle of the road due to to continuous lines of cars clogging up each side of the carriageway. The fool.George111 said:
Tebbers said:
George111 said:
Randy Winkman said:
George111 said:
If the bicyclists want to be pricks then they can go off and use their own roads whilst the rest of us get on with our lives on the public roads.
The public roads are already "their own roads" which is why motorists have to pay to use them under licence.
You'll have to do better than that ! 
You're the one who obviously has trouble understanding how the world works and what laws are for . . . The roads are not to be clogged up by bicyclists wiggling about at walking pace in the middle of the road, it's an obstruction - illegal. Cycle at the side of the road not blocking it and all is fine, but of course the arrogance of cyclists prevents this and makes them think the own the road and to hell with anybody else who wants to us it at the same time.Cyclists really are a bunch of cretins, on the whole, including you
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I have managed to not watch the original video until now.
I can't see anything much wrong with Vine's cycling although he was foolish to generate a confrontation- the car driver might have been a dangerous nutter rather than just a stupid one. He probably is silly enough to think that if he confronts people they will learn from it- they are more likely to assault him.
I cannot see how anyone can defend the woman's behavior. It's beyond ridiculous over a what, 20 second delay? Which as someone above pointed out, added no time to her journey.
But prison? What good will that do? Too many people in prison already. She won't come out better. This woman needs help. Her Twitter ramblings suggest no connection with reality, complete with the excuses around the colour of her skin as if that had relevance to her driving abilities or her lack of anger management.
I can't see anything much wrong with Vine's cycling although he was foolish to generate a confrontation- the car driver might have been a dangerous nutter rather than just a stupid one. He probably is silly enough to think that if he confronts people they will learn from it- they are more likely to assault him.
I cannot see how anyone can defend the woman's behavior. It's beyond ridiculous over a what, 20 second delay? Which as someone above pointed out, added no time to her journey.
But prison? What good will that do? Too many people in prison already. She won't come out better. This woman needs help. Her Twitter ramblings suggest no connection with reality, complete with the excuses around the colour of her skin as if that had relevance to her driving abilities or her lack of anger management.
gazza285 said:
Obviously too obtuse to realise that the cyclist was only in the middle of the road due to to continuous lines of cars clogging up each side of the carriageway. The fool.
He and she are certainly of the same mindset. From the video of her and his comments you can tell neither look beyond the end of the bonnet. MarshPhantom said:
Still can't believe anyone is trying defend Jeremy fking Vine.
I can't stand his radio show but he did nothing wrong in this incident, as confirmed by the judge. That anyone is defending the vile pond life who has, quite rightly, been prosecuted is the thing you should really be vexed about.king Vine.George111 said:
WinstonWolf said:
George111 said:
WinstonWolf said:
We've already established that there wasn't room for her to overtake, the courts seem to agree. Drivers need to learn to just chill the fk out. Your car isn't stuck in traffic, you *are* the traffic.
. . . . back to the bicyclists dire actions. Do you agree he was riding like a prick, slowly, wobbling around in front of the car ? The court accepted that he was . . . If that was me I'd have got a careless driving conviction and so should Jeremy Vine.k out. Your car isn't stuck in traffic, you *are* the traffic.Why should other road users tolerate such behaviour ? Cyclist ought to keep to the left and let other traffic past.
Pearson, of Vauxhall, was also found guilty of driving without reasonable consideration for other road users.
So where do you get your version of events from?
Cars should pull over to let cyclists through seeing as they're far slower in central London.
Usual one rule for us, another for everybody else. This is what causes a lot of the misery for bicyclists - if they took the huge chip off their shoulder and got on with their lives like everybody else tried to then life would be much better for everybody.
Why do you defend a prick anyway ? You'd get a lot more support not just from PH but from the police and the likes of TfL if the troublesome cyclists with chips were condemned - they are causing problems for the rest of us.
Misery for drivers is being held up by the occasional cyclist and having their journey delayed.
The problem here is you (and many similar juvenile-thinkers) believe the critical misery is to drivers and not cyclists.
Embarassing that grown adults can think like that. I assume it's lack of education.
George111 said:
. . . . back to the bicyclists dire actions. Do you agree he was riding like a prick, slowly, wobbling around in front of the car ?
how fast/slow do you know he was going? do you expect every cyclist to ride razor straight? You do know what the highway code says about cyclists riding on a road don't you? they may swerve to avoid potholes/drains/debris in the road. maybe you're confusing wobble with the wobble of the camera.George111 said:
He was causing an obstruction
what obstruction? he begun riding defensively down a narrow road before she even turned into it. if someone slows you down by 5seconds is that really an obstruction? no. on your basis if someone takes anymore then 0.3476743seconds to get off a green light they must be causing an obstruction. telling someone to back off must be causing an obstruction. is every farmer in their tractor causing an obstruction on a road where they cannot pull over to the left? it seems as though your rationale is consumed by your hate for people using bicycles.
ambuletz said:
George111 said:
. . . . back to the bicyclists dire actions. Do you agree he was riding like a prick, slowly, wobbling around in front of the car ?
how fast/slow do you know he was going? do you expect every cyclist to ride razor straight? You do know what the highway code says about cyclists riding on a road don't you? they may swerve to avoid potholes/drains/debris in the road. maybe you're confusing wobble with the wobble of the camera.George111 said:
He was causing an obstruction
what obstruction? he begun riding defensively down a narrow road before she even turned into it. if someone slows you down by 5seconds is that really an obstruction? no. on your basis if someone takes anymore then 0.3476743seconds to get off a green light they must be causing an obstruction. telling someone to back off must be causing an obstruction. is every farmer in their tractor causing an obstruction on a road where they cannot pull over to the left? it seems as though your rationale is consumed by your hate for people using bicycles.
Drive carefully folks. People like this are out there.
Turns out that she is appealing. Who'd have thought. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-391253...
"Her appeal will be heard on 18 April.
Pearson, who has a number of previous convictions including assaults and theft, had been warned she could be jailed as she was subject to a suspended sentence when the argument happened.
She has admitted driving an unlicensed vehicle."
Already on a suspended sentence, then found guilty, whilst also driving an unlicensed vehicle. Has she used up her three strikes yet, FFS?
"Her appeal will be heard on 18 April.
Pearson, who has a number of previous convictions including assaults and theft, had been warned she could be jailed as she was subject to a suspended sentence when the argument happened.
She has admitted driving an unlicensed vehicle."
Already on a suspended sentence, then found guilty, whilst also driving an unlicensed vehicle. Has she used up her three strikes yet, FFS?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-396298...
Driver got 9 months inside. Which I thought was a bit steep, despite thinking she was 100% in the wrong, until I read this: "At the time of the incident, she was subject to a suspended sentence for a string of previous convictions for robbery, thefts and assault."
Which puts a different complexion on the whole thing...
Driver got 9 months inside. Which I thought was a bit steep, despite thinking she was 100% in the wrong, until I read this: "At the time of the incident, she was subject to a suspended sentence for a string of previous convictions for robbery, thefts and assault."
Which puts a different complexion on the whole thing...
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