Jeremy Vine pushbike - incident
Discussion
julian64 said:
I've cycled for thirty odd years alone and with family. Never managed to need to wear lycra and never managed to outrage the driver behind me.
If there was any interest I'd let them know the simple secret.
Come to north west Essex, I'll give it five minutesIf there was any interest I'd let them know the simple secret.
It's normally a White Audi forcing its way through, with a car coming in the opposite direction
Edited by Adrian W on Tuesday 30th August 18:37
SteveSteveson said:
Putting yourself in a good place in the road to stop people making dangerous overtakes is a sensible thing to do....
Although I agree in this scenario, it's a very worrying blanket statement to make. It's why we now have lots of car drivers speed up when someone attempts an overtake. They think it's their job to decide what is and isn't safe, and controlling the car behind is a good choice.If there is someone behind me who I think is about to make a dangerous manourve, I want them past me and gone as soon as possible. I don't want to make them more irate before the dangerous move I think they are about to make.
Fort Jefferson said:
People who get so worked up about cyclists, and other drivers for that matter, have a problem with their lives.
I think we should have to redo our driving test every 10 years and every 5 after 60. Seeing idiots like this woman and reading some of the posters comments on this thread, show just how many crap drivers there are on the roads.julian64 said:
Both idiots but the cyclists on this thread won't be able to see that and will spin this to being a them and us situation between all cyclists and all car drivers rather than between two idiots cos it fits the posters monumentally daft lycra leanings.
I've cycled for thirty odd years alone and with family. Never managed to need to wear lycra and never managed to outrage the driver behind me.
If there was any interest I'd let them know the simple secret.
I doubt there will be any interest in anything you post about cycling.I've cycled for thirty odd years alone and with family. Never managed to need to wear lycra and never managed to outrage the driver behind me.
If there was any interest I'd let them know the simple secret.
rich85uk said:
She should be arrested for that aggressive outburst BUT....
Why does he feel it is perfectly fine to deliberately cycle in the middle of the road slowly meaning no vehicle can pass him without the need to pull over? Fine I get the argument about cars doors opening but does this mean cars should wait behind him the whole time he cycles on roads like this?
He could of pulled over rather than stop and block the road, even after the incident he carries on without letting her or the van past and surprise surprise she gets more angry....
some mirrors and politely pulling over when your holding up traffic would be the decent thing to do
I'm sorry but did you not LOOK at the road? it was a small 1-way road with cars parked BOTH SIDES, the width of the road is narrow that there's inches either side of most cars passing down it. It's not that long of a road either. the length he cycles down is very small too.Why does he feel it is perfectly fine to deliberately cycle in the middle of the road slowly meaning no vehicle can pass him without the need to pull over? Fine I get the argument about cars doors opening but does this mean cars should wait behind him the whole time he cycles on roads like this?
He could of pulled over rather than stop and block the road, even after the incident he carries on without letting her or the van past and surprise surprise she gets more angry....
some mirrors and politely pulling over when your holding up traffic would be the decent thing to do
1- even if he rode to the side there would not be room to overtake
2- he's every right to be where he is
3- he's riding defensively for
(a) vehicles behind him and
(b) vehicles parked either side that could open their doors to him.
4- the narrow section of the road takes about 5seconds max to traverse.
She is clinically insane and 100% wrong. utter stupid entitled young b
h. the video makes my blood boil. Edited by ambuletz on Tuesday 30th August 19:11
Edited by ambuletz on Tuesday 30th August 19:11
rich85uk said:
Why does he feel it is perfectly fine to deliberately cycle in the middle of the road slowly meaning no vehicle can pass him without the need to pull over?
Looking at the rear-facing video, the Corsa is practically maxing out the available width of the road with the parked cars being either side; at which point (before he stopped) do you consider there was sufficient room for her to safely pass him?Yeah, he was a dick for escalating it by stopping right at a point with no parked cars, but before that he was doing exactly what he should have been (never mind people opening doors of the parked cars, if he had been further over she would have dived for a gap that wasn't big enough - proven by how she had to swerve to miss a parked car).
Fort Jefferson said:
People who get so worked up about cyclists, and other drivers for that matter, have a problem with their lives.
This ^^She was only behind him for a few seconds, have some patience with other road users ffs.
If she'd been following him for a mile or two on a country lane then it would have been pretty annoying, but she went way over the top for what it was.
I wouldn't have pixelated her plate out, hope she gets what's coming to her and he presses charges.
Regardless of what you think of Vine, he was in the right. Check the road signs!
She has a problem. And it's reaction proven.
She really should not be behind a wheel. Apart from this encounter, she is driving with expired road tax - don't say it's an oversight, it ran out in June, now almost Sept.
There is nothing wrong with getting angry, it's a normal emotion, but anger behind the wheel of a car is potentially dangerous.
As for the gun bit, really funny ...NOT!
She has a problem. And it's reaction proven.
She really should not be behind a wheel. Apart from this encounter, she is driving with expired road tax - don't say it's an oversight, it ran out in June, now almost Sept.
There is nothing wrong with getting angry, it's a normal emotion, but anger behind the wheel of a car is potentially dangerous.
As for the gun bit, really funny ...NOT!
walm said:
Well according to the OP and other regular cycle-haters on this thread...
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
...it's his fault for not getting out of her way immediately.
Holding her up like that is absolutely unacceptable even for a moment.
Well, you don't sound chippy in the slightest.http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
...it's his fault for not getting out of her way immediately.
Holding her up like that is absolutely unacceptable even for a moment.
xRIEx said:
Looking at the rear-facing video, the Corsa is practically maxing out the available width of the road with the parked cars being either side; at which point (before he stopped) do you consider there was sufficient room for her to safely pass him?
Yeah, he was a dick for escalating it by stopping right at a point with no parked cars, but before that he was doing exactly what he should have been (never mind people opening doors of the parked cars, if he had been further over she would have dived for a gap that wasn't big enough - proven by how she had to swerve to miss a parked car).
That road is very narrow, it's Hornton St in Kensington. One wouldn't expect such behaviour there. Yeah, he was a dick for escalating it by stopping right at a point with no parked cars, but before that he was doing exactly what he should have been (never mind people opening doors of the parked cars, if he had been further over she would have dived for a gap that wasn't big enough - proven by how she had to swerve to miss a parked car).
It's downhill too, a bicycle is definitely quicker to navigate there than a car. There's a library and Kengington High Street at the bottom of the road so many cars parked there with people getting in and out of them. It would be sheer stupidity to cycle near the cars. Anyone who drives or cycles on the road should be aware of the dangers of opening doors but I guess this very thread highlights that many others aren't aware of this.
If drivers on a car forum aren't aware, what hope is there that that other drivers do?
ambuletz said:
I'm sorry but did you not LOOK at the road? it was a small 1-way road with cars parked BOTH SIDES, the width of the road is narrow that there's inches either side of most cars passing down it. It's not that long of a road either. the length he cycles down is very small too.
1- even if he rode to the side there would not be room to overtake
2- he's every right to be where he is
3- he's riding defensively for
(a) vehicles behind him and
(b) vehicles parked either side that could open their doors to him.
4- the narrow section of the road takes about 5seconds max to traverse.
She is clinically insane and 100% wrong. utter stupid entitled young bh. the video makes my blood boil.
i agree, but to be totally fair, there were gaps in the cars parked down the LHS which, had he know the car was there, he could have dropped into.1- even if he rode to the side there would not be room to overtake
2- he's every right to be where he is
3- he's riding defensively for
(a) vehicles behind him and
(b) vehicles parked either side that could open their doors to him.
4- the narrow section of the road takes about 5seconds max to traverse.
She is clinically insane and 100% wrong. utter stupid entitled young b
h. the video makes my blood boil. Edited by ambuletz on Tuesday 30th August 19:11
Edited by ambuletz on Tuesday 30th August 19:11
The first gap, he'd perhaps be forgiven for not (yet) realising the car was behind, the second, well she hit her horn as he approached,Mao we will never know whether he'd have availed himself of it. At the end of the day this was an unnecessary event; it did not need to happen.nthey both had a right to use the road, but managed to get in each other's way quite comprehensively. One was more wrong than the other, by a good margin.
Adrian W said:
I disagree, he had as much right to be there as she, however he was riding his bike, she on the other hand should loose he liscence (for that behaviour)if she has one, and maybe be prosecuted for threatening behaviour and assult, whatever people on here think of him, he did nothing wrong, I wonder if people would feel he somehow did something wrong if it were there wives or children in vine's position.
Agh, 'rights'. 
I didn't mention those either way. In fact, he should have stuck to his course until it was safe for him to pull over. It's his responsibility to uphold the law, not to pontificate and preach - stopping in the middle of the road was stupid. If he wanted to report her, he should have noted her car details and reported her, and submitted the footage. Both seem to be ideally suited to each other, she active aggressive; him, passive.
Let's not forget, he was stopped for speeding on his bike in 2014 and had a drip about that, too.
ambuletz said:
rich85uk said:
She should be arrested for that aggressive outburst BUT....
Why does he feel it is perfectly fine to deliberately cycle in the middle of the road slowly meaning no vehicle can pass him without the need to pull over? Fine I get the argument about cars doors opening but does this mean cars should wait behind him the whole time he cycles on roads like this?
He could of pulled over rather than stop and block the road, even after the incident he carries on without letting her or the van past and surprise surprise she gets more angry....
some mirrors and politely pulling over when your holding up traffic would be the decent thing to do
I'm sorry but did you not LOOK at the road? it was a small 1-way road with cars parked BOTH SIDES, the width of the road is narrow that there's inches either side of most cars passing down it. It's not that long of a road either. the length he cycles down is very small too.Why does he feel it is perfectly fine to deliberately cycle in the middle of the road slowly meaning no vehicle can pass him without the need to pull over? Fine I get the argument about cars doors opening but does this mean cars should wait behind him the whole time he cycles on roads like this?
He could of pulled over rather than stop and block the road, even after the incident he carries on without letting her or the van past and surprise surprise she gets more angry....
some mirrors and politely pulling over when your holding up traffic would be the decent thing to do
1- even if he rode to the side there would not be room to overtake
2- he's every right to be where he is
3- he's riding defensively for
(a) vehicles behind him and
(b) vehicles parked either side that could open their doors to him.
4- the narrow section of the road takes about 5seconds max to traverse.
She is clinically insane and 100% wrong. utter stupid entitled young b
h. the video makes my blood boil. Edited by ambuletz on Tuesday 30th August 19:11
Edited by ambuletz on Tuesday 30th August 19:11
Is it really fair that he feels he could cycle 1 mile, 2 miles, 3 miles on roads like that riding in the middle so no vehicle can pass and never pull over??
He was cycling rather slowly and the roads in front of him were clear, those stuck behind would of been able to drive at 20-30mph
I can imagine him driving on the motorway in the 3rd lane doing 74mph, refusing to move over as anyone trying to pass will break the speed limit
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