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anonymous-user

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54 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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Can't see this anywhere else but if it is I apologise.

Katrina Percy has resigned from her post as CEO of Southern Health trust after several years of proving nothing but her inadequacy for the role.

She has been paid over £180,000 a year and will continue to be paid that in her new 'role' as an advisor.

Don't anyone ever tell me again that the NHS needs more funding or that higher taxes in general are justified. Not while this disgraceful waste continues.

PoleDriver

28,639 posts

194 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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My OH has been temping at various NHS facilities in the South area for the last few years, including clearing down paperwork when departments shut down. She's absolutely stunned by the amounts being wasted on hair-brained schemes and high numbers of staff being off sick on full pay for extended periods!

TLandCruiser

2,788 posts

198 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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My friends wife works for the NHS she was a director of something and was made redundant but then hired by the NHS as a consultant to do the same job but she earned more money as a consultant. Utterly bizarre.

Smiler.

11,752 posts

230 months

Wednesday 31st August 2016
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When I was in hospital last year, I had to email the facilities team 7 times to get them to fix the toilet pan to the floor in one of the 2 WC/Shower rooms as it was leaking effluent.

The ward staff were on at them every day too. They did "fix" it after a few days, but not properly to it began leaking immediately as it still wasn't fixed.

It took 12 days in all.



Use another bathroom you day? This was the only one with enough room in it for my wheelchair.

I know this is not directly the NHS but they let the contract to useless FM outfit. No accountability.



During my stay, I also learned a lot about hospital design which is not fit for purpose, having seen the nursing staff struggling with it.

I emailed my concerns to NHS England, never even got an acknowledgement.



There is a lot of good in the NHS, but I suggest a lot of this is at the expense of the goodwill of the majority of the staff.

There is also a lot of bad, which I also experienced when my mum was in hospital a few months ago. A colleague of mine is also reporting a similar tale, all different hospitals.


Digga

40,321 posts

283 months

Wednesday 31st August 2016
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REALIST123 said:
Katrina Percy has resigned from her post as CEO of Southern Health trust after several years of proving nothing but her inadequacy for the role.
Hang on a minute! The actual straw that broke the camel's back was this revelation;

BBC said:
29 July 2016 - The BBC reports that the trust has paid millions of pounds in contracts to companies owned by previous associates of Katrina Percy
Cronyism. How is she still employed by the NHS?!! What does a CEO need to do to get fired from the NHS?

See also the spineless piece of dirt that ran Stafford Hospital (into the ground) and was 'too ill' to attend the public inquest but the, miraculously, was not too ill to be gifted another nice, non-job with a publicly-funded health 'charity': http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-20960140

See also: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...


Guybrush

4,350 posts

206 months

Wednesday 31st August 2016
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REALIST123 said:
Can't see this anywhere else but if it is I apologise.

Katrina Percy has resigned from her post as CEO of Southern Health trust after several years of proving nothing but her inadequacy for the role.

She has been paid over £180,000 a year and will continue to be paid that in her new 'role' as an advisor.

Don't anyone ever tell me again that the NHS needs more funding or that higher taxes in general are justified. Not while this disgraceful waste continues.
Quite. The waste of our money within the 'higher' levels of the NHS is incredible. Unfortunately, it's they who have the power to make cuts where they wish and that always seems to be the front line. An independent axe wielder, slicing through the pen pushers would be a good start.

Digga

40,321 posts

283 months

Wednesday 31st August 2016
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Guybrush said:
Quite. The waste of our money within the 'higher' levels of the NHS is incredible. Unfortunately, it's they who have the power to make cuts where they wish and that always seems to be the front line. An independent axe wielder, slicing through the pen pushers would be a good start.
Of course it was New Labour's desire to create a layer of management non-jobs within the public sector that spawned this nonsense.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Wednesday 31st August 2016
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At the trust where my wife works, one of the Snr Mgt made a monumental cock up costing 8 million quid to fix.
Guess what? she was promoted (to another role where she could do less damage)

Digga

40,321 posts

283 months

Wednesday 31st August 2016
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Vandenberg said:
At the trust where my wife works, one of the Snr Mgt made a monumental cock up costing 8 million quid to fix.
Guess what? she was promoted (to another role where she could do less damage)
It would be funny, if it were not so endemic, prolific and paid for out of the public pocket. It does appear to me, anecdotally, that this is an issue which ranks extremely high in the minds of the public - we all know the NHS is struggling, but then we can all list umpteen accounts of inefficiency, profligacy and bad management relating to the organisation. Like the issue of immigration before it, this is going to begin to be a major topic. Political parties who dodge or fudge be warned.

GreatGranny

9,128 posts

226 months

Wednesday 31st August 2016
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My wife works as an Accountant for a trust in Lincolnshire.

She says the level of nepotism, long term sickness, bullying, sexism, waste and general incompetence is astounding.

She has worked mostly in the private sector but did work for Sheffield NHS when she first left Uni 25 years so has seen both sides.

The waste in the Hospitals is on agency staff because there are not enough trained staff and those that are trained are unwilling to work in failing trusts.
The waste in the back room staff is because of weak, lazy and ineffective management.

Digga

40,321 posts

283 months

Wednesday 31st August 2016
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GreatGranny said:
The waste in the Hospitals is on agency staff because there are not enough trained staff and those that are trained are unwilling to work in failing trusts.
The NHS should be run like a business - you work for the NHS, you go where the work is. End of. Otherwise, you have situations, like Stafford and other 'failed' places, where people don't want them on their CV. It's bizarre really, because although nurses seem to cop for a lot of disciplinary, people higher up the tree thus far seem immune.

Another thing the government needs to do, and fast, is to make examples of a few of the miscreants. Right now, there are no consequences no just for failure, but for abject mismanagement.

Inefficiency is rife and, unfairly, exists alongside hard work and diligence. I've witnessed this a few times on hospital visits; some staff are working incredibly hard, every time you are there, whilst other groups are able to idle the day away.

FredClogs

14,041 posts

161 months

Wednesday 31st August 2016
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Strange the way this thread will go vs the other threads bemoaning high boardroom pay and excessive bonus culture for failure or marginal success in private enterprises.

Come the revolution and the seeding of the robot overlords AI money will become worthless anyway. Enjoy it while it lasts.

Dog Star

16,132 posts

168 months

Wednesday 31st August 2016
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You also need to look at the utter drivel that millions of pounds was spunked on paying her mates companies for....

- "providing coaching and leadership support"
- Talent Works Ltd, whose website says they are "experts in culture and behaviour change"

I've worked in a lot of big companies and this sort of nebulous crap always boils my piss - it serves no purpose other than getting various members of staff away from the office for a bit.


Digga

40,321 posts

283 months

Wednesday 31st August 2016
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There is a culture in large organisations to use (eyewateringly expensive) consultants as lightening conductors - as an excuse for controversial change or initiatives.

For every idiot, 'new broom' manager who fixes things that were never broken, there are at least as many who use consultants and committees to avoid having to do their jobs.

PoleDriver

28,639 posts

194 months

Wednesday 31st August 2016
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GreatGranny said:
My wife works as an Accountant for a trust in Lincolnshire.

She says the level of nepotism, long term sickness, bullying, sexism, waste and general incompetence is astounding.

She has worked mostly in the private sector but did work for Sheffield NHS when she first left Uni 25 years so has seen both sides.

The waste in the Hospitals is on agency staff because there are not enough trained staff and those that are trained are unwilling to work in failing trusts.
The waste in the back room staff is because of weak, lazy and ineffective management.
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This is exactly what my OH has found in South coast health trusts!!

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Wednesday 31st August 2016
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Digga said:
It would be funny, if it were not so endemic, prolific and paid for out of the public pocket. It does appear to me, anecdotally, that this is an issue which ranks extremely high in the minds of the public - we all know the NHS is struggling, but then we can all list umpteen accounts of inefficiency, profligacy and bad management relating to the organisation. Like the issue of immigration before it, this is going to begin to be a major topic. Political parties who dodge or fudge be warned.
Totally agree and that one tale is one of 100's that defy belief and logic, my current urine boiler is a chap was caught filling his car boot with boxes of washing powder and big tins of coffee, literally caught red handed, instead of being sacked he was on the sick for "stress" for 5 months, 4 days and was given 3 months of counselling for his issues.

The other is the woman who was in charge of the refit for a new unit, part of the order was for 200 Herman Miller Aeron chairs and desks, ignoring the fact they wanted pricy office furniture in the first place, my wife enquired what discount she had got for that order - the answer was full list price x 200, but I got free delivery!.


I am getting sick of the NHS being a political football, where the only solution is to throw more money at the NHS.

Digga

40,321 posts

283 months

Wednesday 31st August 2016
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Vandenberg said:
The other is the woman who was in charge of the refit for a new unit, part of the order was for 200 Herman Miller Aeron chairs and desks, ignoring the fact they wanted pricy office furniture in the first place, my wife enquired what discount she had got for that order - the answer was full list price x 200, but I got free delivery!.
Literally spending money like a man with no arms. I'm all for the NHS and other public bodies treating private sector suppliers fairly, but that's an utter joke.

Vandenberg said:
I am getting sick of the NHS being a political football, where the only solution is to throw more money at the NHS.


anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Wednesday 31st August 2016
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FredClogs said:
Strange the way this thread will go vs the other threads bemoaning high boardroom pay and excessive bonus culture for failure or marginal success in private enterprises.

Come the revolution and the seeding of the robot overlords AI money will become worthless anyway. Enjoy it while it lasts.

The thing is, Fred, that if Katrina fkwit Percy had been in a private enterprise she would have been fired many years ago as soon as her incompetence became clear. She certainly wouldn't have been shuffled sideways on full pay.

You know that; we all know that.

And we can all exercise choice dealing with private enterprise. Not so with our public sector.

Please don't try to spin this into another envy driven rant.


Digga

40,321 posts

283 months

Wednesday 31st August 2016
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REALIST123 said:

The thing is, Fred, that if Katrina fkwit Percy had been in a private enterprise she would have been fired many years ago as soon as her incompetence became clear. She certainly wouldn't have been shuffled sideways on full pay.

You know that; we all know that.

And we can all exercise choice dealing with private enterprise. Not so with our public sector.

Please don't try to spin this into another envy driven rant.
Agreed. What is more, and what makes it even worse, is that the burden of this profligacy and incompetence - and her whacking great piss-down-the-drain salary - was carried by the public purse.

crankedup

25,764 posts

243 months

Wednesday 31st August 2016
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Maybe it was less expensive for the trust to come to the arrangement reported. The advisory role will no doubt disappear after a period of one year or so. It's easier to sack an advisor than a employee.