Southern Health

[uknick]

jjlynn27 said:

Did you actually send FOI request yourself?

Yes, why?

[dandarez]

uknick said:

jjlynn27 said:

Did you actually send FOI request yourself?

Yes, why?

Don't tell him Pike! He has previous, and he's trying to find out how to do it.

It's not difficult Mr Leagues, but they'll probably refuse you.
They can you know, if it costs too much to extract the info.
I know, I tried!

But the information office can over-rule.

[uknick]

dandarez said:

Don't tell him Pike! He has previous, and he's trying to find out how to do it.

It's not difficult Mr Leagues, but they'll probably refuse you.
They can you know, if it costs too much to extract the info.
I know, I tried!

But the information office can over-rule.

If that is the case, I'll give a clue; try searching their website.

I used to answer FOIs in a previous existence so I carefully worded mine so as not to fall foul of the cost rule.

I do seem to have fallen foul of the "commercially sensitive" rule. However as I'm only asking for budgeted running costs from the Trust's business case and not specific contract figures I think they're wrong not to disclose the information.

[Sheepshanks]

uknick said:

I've yet to go back and ask why the running costs aren't covered as surely they're all paid for from public funds and therefore should be subject to FOI.

If it's a private facility why would its running costs be paid for from public funds?

[s3fella]

dandarez said:

26 sec vid of Smart showing what a **** he is.

Good f riddance!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-37410464

He doesn't seem capable to cook you a frozen fking Pizza. Is the NHS management full of such ineffective and trivial people?

[uknick]

Sheepshanks said:

If it's a private facility why would its running costs be paid for from public funds?

It's not a private facility. It's a wholly owned NHS trust hospital that only deals with private paying patients.

Their business plan is to generate £2m per from private patients.

[Sheepshanks]

uknick said:

Sheepshanks said:

If it's a private facility why would its running costs be paid for from public funds?

It's not a private facility. It's a wholly owned NHS trust hospital that only deals with private paying patients.

To my mind if it only deals with private patients then it's a private facility. Doesn't matter who invested in it and owns it.


Funding is baffling in the NHS - maybe intentionally. My daughter wears an NHS badge and has an NHS email address. But she's employed by a company which is a JV between a charity and a distant (100 miles away) Foundation Trust. The JV provides its services through a local Trust, who themselves are contracted by the area's Clinical Commissioning Group.

The rate her services are charged at is absolutely mind-blowing - it's more per hour than she is paid per week.

[BlackLabel]

"AN NHS trust that failed to probe hundreds of deaths and gave its fat cat boss a huge pay-off spent £40,000 on external PR firms to help them gloss over the scandal.

Southern Health NHS Foundation Trust paid three companies a total of £40,013.99 to advise them on how to manage the negative publicity between January 1 and September 8 this year."

https://t.co/LSWi1vx31b

[BlackLabel]

anonymous said:

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They should have come clean about their actions and failings from the outset, not use taxpayers' money to gloss over the scandal.

[carinaman]

uknick said:

jjlynn27 said:

Did you actually send FOI request yourself?

Yes, why?

Good work. Thanks.

[V8 Fettler]

BlackLabel said:

"AN NHS trust that failed to probe hundreds of deaths and gave its fat cat boss a huge pay-off spent £40,000 on external PR firms to help them gloss over the scandal.

Southern Health NHS Foundation Trust paid three companies a total of £40,013.99 to advise them on how to manage the negative publicity between January 1 and September 8 this year."

https://t.co/LSWi1vx31b

Many NHS trusts are self-serving insular empires where patients and taxpayer value are not the priority concern.