Man arrested after baby girl is punched in a supermarket.

Man arrested after baby girl is punched in a supermarket.

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Disastrous

10,090 posts

218 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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Genuinely amazed people are defending this.

What you seem to not quite grasp is that even if this was non-malicious, and an attempt at humour gone wrong, it is COMPLETELY fking UNACCEPTABLE to punch someone's property without warning, especially if you only vaguely know them.

Hopefully, this will serve to recalibrate the weirdo's sense of humour at the very least.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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Disastrous said:
Genuinely amazed people are defending this.

What you seem to not quite grasp is that even if this was non-malicious, and an attempt at humour gone wrong, it is COMPLETELY fking UNACCEPTABLE to punch someone's property without warning, especially if you only vaguely know them.

Hopefully, this will serve to recalibrate the weirdo's sense of humour at the very least.
Yes, quite. Even if it was a doll, what the fk was he thinking? It is an aggression.

blueg33

36,043 posts

225 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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julian64 said:
blueg33 said:
Mr GrimNasty said:
The guy made a stupid mistake, no real harm done. I hope none of you lot are ever on a jury.
You can kill someone by mistake and still go to prison, eg death by dangerous driving. I suspect most dangerous drivers don't set out to kill people, but they are still held responsible if they do. The fact its a mistake is not a full defence.

The act of punching what he thought was a doll was still and act of aggression and is still assault. IMO he is lucky he didn't kill the baby
You didn't see the incident. You simply have a daily mail headline of outraged people and you can't think further than to be enraged yourself.

Nobody on this forum is actually waiting for the facts. They think they know everything there is to known when empirically its obvious to anyone with even half a care that they don't.

Furthermore any posts suggesting we should wait and watch gets the typical 'burn with fire' of the tiny mind.

Answer the following questions

!) Has the baby sustained any damage
2) What damage do you think a baby sustains from an adult male punch to the head.

If you answer is I don't know/none, and bloody catastrophic cerebral haemorrhage easily seen on an MRI of the head respectively then you may want to consider what your definition of a punch is and what the daily mail defined as a punch.

Is this gut a tit, yes. Does he deserve to be locked up and key thrown away. I don't know and neither do you so why are you so certain?
He deserves the punishment that the law decides. Assault remains assault regardless of the intent or injury.

Ps. I dont read the Daily Mail



Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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julian64 said:
You didn't see the incident. You simply have a daily mail headline of outraged people and you can't think further than to be enraged yourself.

Nobody on this forum is actually waiting for the facts. They think they know everything there is to known when empirically its obvious to anyone with even half a care that they don't.

Furthermore any posts suggesting we should wait and watch gets the typical 'burn with fire' of the tiny mind.

Answer the following questions

!) Has the baby sustained any damage
2) What damage do you think a baby sustains from an adult male punch to the head.

If you answer is I don't know/none, and bloody catastrophic cerebral haemorrhage easily seen on an MRI of the head respectively then you may want to consider what your definition of a punch is and what the daily mail defined as a punch.

Is this gut a tit, yes. Does he deserve to be locked up and key thrown away. I don't know and neither do you so why are you so certain?
Julian from your username I'm guessing your 52ish years old and should be old enough to comprehend that babies do not fully develop for years so even if this incident didn't give any instant damage there may be long term developmental issues.

That aside if some nice chap came barrelling along and punch your 5 day old grandchild can you explain how you would react if you were there and it was the first time you'd met the baby? I'm guessing you'd probably slap him on the back "oh well that old joke about punching a doll - mistaken my grandchild don't worry no harm done" (if you were an in law or parent of mine and you had such blasé attitude I doubt we'd want to see you again.

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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greygoose said:
Yeah I'm sure the "I saw it on South Park so thought I could do it in real life" defence works well in court.
So if it's done in film, it can be done in real life!
https://youtu.be/-eREiQhBDIk

popeyewhite

20,001 posts

121 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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blueg33 said:
Being a psychopath is a "condition" but acting on its urges is not acceptable to society and gets punished.
There are many on here I suspect who would be classed as borderline psychopath. There are no psychopathic 'urges' as such, and being classified as a psychopath does not mean you are a criminal.

Digby

8,243 posts

247 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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blueg33 said:
Being a psychopath is a "condition" but acting on its urges is not acceptable to society and gets punished.

What this bloke did is not acceptable to society, really if you can't get that the your contributions to this thread are repetitive and worthless.

You do realise those links were aimed at all those posters who feel the need in such threads to call people names etc and generally act in a rather petulant manner?

They had nothing to do with the guy who punched what he thought was a doll.


blueg33

36,043 posts

225 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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popeyewhite said:
blueg33 said:
Being a psychopath is a "condition" but acting on its urges is not acceptable to society and gets punished.
There are many on here I suspect who would be classed as borderline psychopath. There are no psychopathic 'urges' as such, and being classified as a psychopath does not mean you are a criminal.
Indeed, but if someone who has a condition that causes them to harm others, then they will end up locked away, partially to protect society and partially as punishment and yes they are a criminal. Eg Brady

popeyewhite

20,001 posts

121 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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blueg33 said:
popeyewhite said:
blueg33 said:
Being a psychopath is a "condition" but acting on its urges is not acceptable to society and gets punished.
There are many on here I suspect who would be classed as borderline psychopath. There are no psychopathic 'urges' as such, and being classified as a psychopath does not mean you are a criminal.
Indeed, but if someone who has a condition that causes them to harm others, then they will end up locked away, partially to protect society and partially as punishment and yes they are a criminal. Eg Brady
Punching a plastic toy is not a 'condition' that causes harm to others. Punching a baby by mistake is incredibly stupid, thank God the child is ok.

Zod

35,295 posts

259 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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Digby said:
blueg33 said:
Being a psychopath is a "condition" but acting on its urges is not acceptable to society and gets punished.

What this bloke did is not acceptable to society, really if you can't get that the your contributions to this thread are repetitive and worthless.

You do realise those links were aimed at all those posters who feel the need in such threads to call people names etc and generally act in a rather petulant manner?

They had nothing to do with the guy who punched what he thought was a doll.
As opposed to you popeye playing the playground "you're immature" card to try to deflect criticism of your bizarre defence of the doll/baby puncher? I rarely resort to mildly naughty words here, but sometimes there's no argument to make, no light to try to get the person to see, other than that he's behaving like a bit of a dick.

Digby

8,243 posts

247 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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The clips I posted earlier are funny to millions based on the fact everyone knows how shocking it is to punch or kick a baby. If mainstream movies and TV programs make audiences laugh by doing just that, why is this chap not alllowed to have that same sense of humour and also attempt to make people laugh?

He was an idiot and yes this is assault, but it was nothing more than a failed attempt at cheap laughs.

Hollywood seems to know how it works as do the creators of one of the most popular cartoons on TV, perhaps those wanting to see him burn are devoid of a sense of humour.

Zod said:
As opposed to you popeye playing the playground "you're immature" card
I was simply making a point. It's an absurd way to behave on a forum, isn't it?

You are still doing it, though.

Edited by Digby on Tuesday 4th October 18:26

Zod

35,295 posts

259 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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Digby said:
The clips I posted earlier are funny to millions based on the fact everyone knows how shocking it is to punch or kick a baby. If mainstream movies and TV programs make audiences laugh by doing just that, why is this chap not alllowed to have that same sense of humour and also attempt to make people laugh?

He was an idiot and yes this is assault, but it was nothing more than a failed attempt at cheap laughs.

Hollywood seems to know how it works as do the creators of one of the most popular cartoons on TV, perhaps those wanting to see him burn are devoid of a sense of humour.

Zod said:
As opposed to you popeye playing the playground "you're immature" card
I was simply making a point. It's an absurd way to behave on a forum, isn't it?

You are still doing it, though.

Edited by Digby on Tuesday 4th October 18:26
You silly man. You cannot see that the absurd behaviour is yours and popeye's in making light of the actions of this man.

Digby

8,243 posts

247 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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Silly man now? Read those links I posted again. You are still doing it. smile


The guy either has a fetish for punching babies, or wanted cheap laughs; the kinds of which you can witness in movies etc.

You clearly want him to be a baby puncher and I don't. We will have to agree to disagree.




SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

199 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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Digby said:
Silly man now? Read those links I posted again. You are still doing it. smile


The guy either has a fetish for punching babies, or wanted cheap laughs; the kinds of which you can witness in movies etc.

You clearly want him to be a baby puncher and I don't. We will have to agree to disagree.
Nobody WANTS him to be a baby puncher..

he IS a baby puncher. the only question is what punishment he gets, not whether he did it or not.

Digby

8,243 posts

247 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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SystemParanoia said:
Nobody WANTS him to be a baby puncher..

he IS a baby puncher. the only question is what punishment he gets, not whether he did it or not.
Indeed. And why did he do it?

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

199 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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Digby said:
SystemParanoia said:
Nobody WANTS him to be a baby puncher..

he IS a baby puncher. the only question is what punishment he gets, not whether he did it or not.
Indeed. And why did he do it?
IMHO it doesn't matter, and i dont care if we never find out.
postponing justice just because we dont know is ridiculous... how about we delay his release until we know.

Digby

8,243 posts

247 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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SystemParanoia said:
IMHO it doesn't matter, and i dont care if we never find out.
postponing justice just because we dont know is ridiculous... how about we delay his release until we know.
The guys sense of humour backfired - he knew, as moviegoers and producers the world over do, that punching a baby is bad.

Don't worry yourself over it, though, we will all be dead before we know it and these posts and everything you are feeling right now will be long forgotten..


SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

199 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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Digby said:
SystemParanoia said:
IMHO it doesn't matter, and i dont care if we never find out.
postponing justice just because we dont know is ridiculous... how about we delay his release until we know.
The guys sense of humour backfired - he knew, as moviegoers and producers the world over do, that punching a baby is bad.

Don't worry yourself over it, though, we will all be dead before we know it and these posts and everything you are feeling right now will be long forgotten..
Works for me, glad you agree smile

julian64

14,317 posts

255 months

Wednesday 5th October 2016
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Welshbeef said:
Julian from your username I'm guessing your 52ish years old and should be old enough to comprehend that babies do not fully develop for years so even if this incident didn't give any instant damage there may be long term developmental issues.

That aside if some nice chap came barrelling along and punch your 5 day old grandchild can you explain how you would react if you were there and it was the first time you'd met the baby? I'm guessing you'd probably slap him on the back "oh well that old joke about punching a doll - mistaken my grandchild don't worry no harm done" (if you were an in law or parent of mine and you had such blasé attitude I doubt we'd want to see you again.
If someone did that to my baby I'd have a range of emotions depending on the circumstance. Its only you lot that would immediately unclip the safety catch on the Uzi.

Your posts aren't normal. Somewhere around there is a tabloid editor rubbing his hands together that he's sold more papers because of how outraged he's made you feel. Its truly below you.

_dobbo_

14,402 posts

249 months

Wednesday 5th October 2016
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So Julian, which is normal if somebody punches my newborn baby?

1.) I stop to carefully consider his motivation, giving time to allow for the fact that it might have been an honest mistake at humour.
2.) I flip my fking st.

Because I know which I would do, but I don't know which you would consider normal.