Man arrested after baby girl is punched in a supermarket.

Man arrested after baby girl is punched in a supermarket.

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Foliage

3,861 posts

122 months

Wednesday 7th September 2016
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julian64 said:
Hmmm. Before everyone goes completely batst on here it might be worth looking at the photos.

A punch from a chap to a delicate babies face is going to leave a lot of tissue damage bruising etc

Assuming that's an after photo I don't see anything, and no underlying damage seems to have been found by the hospital.

So although punch makes a good headline I'm not sure you should regard punch as the sort of thing you see outside a nightclub.

I could be wrong but I think it would be sensible not to react quite so strongly to a headline
what? are you serious? why would he even behave like that to a childs doll?

popeyewhite

19,793 posts

120 months

Wednesday 7th September 2016
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julian64 said:
Hmmm.

I could be wrong but I think it would be sensible not to react quite so strongly to a headline
What? Too late for rational thought - blood's up!

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

198 months

Wednesday 7th September 2016
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popeyewhite said:
julian64 said:
Hmmm.

I could be wrong but I think it would be sensible not to react quite so strongly to a headline
What? Too late for rational thought - blood's up!
I'd definitely get locked up if he punched my baby.

im sorry, but blood would boil immediately and there will be no room for logic or reason; Just instant brutal retribution in defense of my young that has just been needlessly assaulted.

If he survived, then i'd throw myself on the mercy of the court.

julian64

14,317 posts

254 months

Wednesday 7th September 2016
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Foliage said:
julian64 said:
Hmmm. Before everyone goes completely batst on here it might be worth looking at the photos.

A punch from a chap to a delicate babies face is going to leave a lot of tissue damage bruising etc

Assuming that's an after photo I don't see anything, and no underlying damage seems to have been found by the hospital.

So although punch makes a good headline I'm not sure you should regard punch as the sort of thing you see outside a nightclub.

I could be wrong but I think it would be sensible not to react quite so strongly to a headline
what? are you serious? why would he even behave like that to a childs doll?
Some people are weird. But its an occams razor problem.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Wednesday 7th September 2016
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julian64 said:
Hmmm. Before everyone goes completely batst on here it might be worth looking at the photos.

A punch from a chap to a delicate babies face is going to leave a lot of tissue damage bruising etc

Assuming that's an after photo I don't see anything, and no underlying damage seems to have been found by the hospital.

So although punch makes a good headline I'm not sure you should regard punch as the sort of thing you see outside a nightclub.

I could be wrong but I think it would be sensible not to react quite so strongly to a headline
I'm really not with you on this one.

If I was the father and my wife was holding up our 5 day old baby for friends to see who we bumped into in he supermarket - then some bloke came over and "punched" our baby there might be a second or two of WTF looks and then I'd probably be arrested for what I'd do to him. Call me old fashioned.
Ditto if I saw someone do that to another ladies baby who's husband or bloke wasn't present I can assure you I'd be stepping in to assist pretty forcefully.



Punching a 5 day old baby....

Foliage

3,861 posts

122 months

Wednesday 7th September 2016
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julian64 said:
Some people are weird. But its an occams razor problem.
Yep, im Occam razoring you right now..

Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Wednesday 7th September 2016
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Nanook said:
julian64 said:
Assuming that's an after photo I don't see anything, and no underlying damage seems to have been found by the hospital.
Why are you assuming that?

You may be correct, but there's nothing to suggest that's the case.

And what does Ockham's razor have to do with the price of fish?
of course it isn't a post punch photo

julian64

14,317 posts

254 months

Wednesday 7th September 2016
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Everyone on this thread is 'assuming' a lot. Occam razor was designed to removing 'assuming'.

What's most likely?

a sixty three year old loves to punch babies and then apologise for it. Meanwhile baby is miraculously unharmed after punch.

Or news hound is deliberately exaggerating story of sixty year old you mistook a baby for a doll and did a pretend grab for the doll as a joke.

Neither sounds particularly normal, and neither of us were there. But faced with two unlikely scenarios which would you go for without knowing more information.

In my world I'd lean on my pitchfork and wait rather than brandishing it

julian64

14,317 posts

254 months

Wednesday 7th September 2016
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Burwood said:
of course it isn't a post punch photo
Sorry how do you know that?

Baby was checked over and discharged. Think I'd want to admit the child for observation and a CT scan head to look for haemorrhages if it was actually punched and appeared with bruises all over its face.

You may have more knowledge on the subject though.
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FlyingMeeces

9,932 posts

211 months

Wednesday 7th September 2016
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Mr GrimNasty said:
Matt80M said:
What in the world?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-37...

What a total fking .
It was a mistake, a bad attempt to be funny, and luckily no harm done.

Twice in recent months I've asked a mum if the baby in the pram is real or one of those dolls. Bizarrely very young babies are so perfect they do look like the dolls some 'odd' people buy, or the ones given to young girls to make them think about getting knocked up.
Yup (turns out the doll 'pregnancy education' thing doesn't work at all, who'd a thunk?).

But I think it says a bit about what sort of person thinks it's okay to 'attempt to be funny' by punching what he believed to be a possession belonging to strangers.

Thank goodness she wasn't hurt.

Pesty

42,655 posts

256 months

Wednesday 7th September 2016
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Smollet said:
Zoon said:
jakesmith said:
Sounds like an honest mistake to me
Could have happened to anyone
Punching a doll isnt a crime last time i checked ffs
It was a real baby FFS.
He didn't think it was though. Should make for an interesting court case.
Wot

Am I needing a ducking huge parrot ?

Oh there's a doll I'll just punch it. Yeah I do that all the time because I see grown ups pushing dolls in Prams that often.

Internet hard man time. That man would not have been able to walk out of there.

p1stonhead

25,526 posts

167 months

Wednesday 7th September 2016
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People on here even trying to justify even 0.0000000000001% about this story makes me scared to live in this world.

blueg33

35,781 posts

224 months

Wednesday 7th September 2016
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Indefensible if it was a doll, but massively wrong as it was a baby.

Normal people do not go round punching, slapping, hitting other peoples dolls in supermarkets.

FlyingMeeces

9,932 posts

211 months

Wednesday 7th September 2016
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blueg33 said:
Indefensible if it was a doll, but massively wrong as it was a baby.

Normal people do not go round punching, slapping, hitting other peoples dolls in supermarkets.
Exactly.

Other people's lives - including dolls, that bit's kinda irrelevant - are not there for pricks like that idiot's entertainment.

Jeez, did he miss the lesson in the first week of Reception class at infant school where you learn not to fk with other people's stuff?

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 7th September 2016
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Some odd comments. Even if it were a doll / he believed it to be. Why would you do anything like that to a stranger's property?

Smollet said:
Zoon said:
jakesmith said:
Sounds like an honest mistake to me
Could have happened to anyone
Punching a doll isnt a crime last time i checked ffs
It was a real baby FFS.
He didn't think it was though. Should make for an interesting court case.
Legally it's quite straight forward.

Common Assault definition said:
A battery is committed when a person intentionally and recklessly applies unlawful force to another.



WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Wednesday 7th September 2016
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Foliage said:
julian64 said:
Hmmm. Before everyone goes completely batst on here it might be worth looking at the photos.

A punch from a chap to a delicate babies face is going to leave a lot of tissue damage bruising etc

Assuming that's an after photo I don't see anything, and no underlying damage seems to have been found by the hospital.

So although punch makes a good headline I'm not sure you should regard punch as the sort of thing you see outside a nightclub.

I could be wrong but I think it would be sensible not to react quite so strongly to a headline
what? are you serious? why would he even behave like that to a childs doll?
My daughter had a Baby Newborn doll, it scared the fk out of me...

blueg33

35,781 posts

224 months

Wednesday 7th September 2016
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WinstonWolf said:
Foliage said:
julian64 said:
Hmmm. Before everyone goes completely batst on here it might be worth looking at the photos.

A punch from a chap to a delicate babies face is going to leave a lot of tissue damage bruising etc

Assuming that's an after photo I don't see anything, and no underlying damage seems to have been found by the hospital.

So although punch makes a good headline I'm not sure you should regard punch as the sort of thing you see outside a nightclub.

I could be wrong but I think it would be sensible not to react quite so strongly to a headline
what? are you serious? why would he even behave like that to a childs doll?
My daughter had a Baby Newborn doll, it scared the fk out of me...
Did strangers punch it?

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Wednesday 7th September 2016
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blueg33 said:
WinstonWolf said:
Foliage said:
julian64 said:
Hmmm. Before everyone goes completely batst on here it might be worth looking at the photos.

A punch from a chap to a delicate babies face is going to leave a lot of tissue damage bruising etc

Assuming that's an after photo I don't see anything, and no underlying damage seems to have been found by the hospital.

So although punch makes a good headline I'm not sure you should regard punch as the sort of thing you see outside a nightclub.

I could be wrong but I think it would be sensible not to react quite so strongly to a headline
what? are you serious? why would he even behave like that to a childs doll?
My daughter had a Baby Newborn doll, it scared the fk out of me...
Did strangers punch it?
I bloody nearly did, the damn thing looked like Chucky if you weren't expecting it...

Gecko1978

9,680 posts

157 months

Wednesday 7th September 2016
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julian64 said:
Burwood said:
of course it isn't a post punch photo
Sorry how do you know that?

Baby was checked over and discharged. Think I'd want to admit the child for observation and a CT scan head to look for haemorrhages if it was actually punched and appeared with bruises all over its face.

You may have more knowledge on the subject though.
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Do you have kids?

The reason I ask is if some one grabbed, slapped, punched or made an aggressive gesture at your new born you would in all honesty be devastated.

Knowing that it seems odd a person would do any of the above joke or otherwise thus I am left to assume the person in question is basically a an deseves a slap himslef to knock some sense into him. The fact the father did not attack him seems to suggest it was more of grab swipe etc than a punch as I suspect most parents would be unable to control the urge to protect there child.

situations like this could so easily get out of hand. example your in supermarket with new born some halfwit goes to grab your child as a joke (you dont know this) fearing for your childs life you grab nearest thing to hand an attack said halfwit. Sadly the thing you grab is a bottle of own brand vodka and you kill them....whoes to blame I would say the person who went to grab the child but courts would see it differently I suspect.

Being stupid is not a defense gabbing at a new born child that is not your own is just moronic an deserves punishment (by the law)

blueg33

35,781 posts

224 months

Wednesday 7th September 2016
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My baby is 6 foot four tall and this second dan blackbelt at taekeondo and does MMA, but if someone smacked him in the face and assuming they survived his response then I would be dealing with them too