Hillary Clintons Health
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Pesty said:
jsf said:
Trump will win again, the Dems haven't learnt a damn thing in the last 4 years.
Oh they have. Illegals are being given driving licences left right and center the faithful will be voting for their dead great grandmothers etc.Trumps biggest mistake was not bringing in voter ID
BlackLabel said:
It’s remarkable how the left in this country and elsewhere fawn over Hillary given what America did in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya and elsewhere when she was heading the State Department. The Americans killed countless innocent civilians under Obama/Hillary yet the way people go on you’d think the aforementioned were Gandhi level peaceniks.
That’s not to say Trump isn’t a
but people who support Hillary and others just because they oppose Trump are hypocrites.
That’s not to say Trump isn’t a
but people who support Hillary and others just because they oppose Trump are hypocrites.
BlackLabel said:
It’s remarkable how the left in this country and elsewhere fawn over Hillary given what America did in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya and elsewhere when she was heading the State Department. The Americans killed countless innocent civilians under Obama/Hillary yet the way people go on you’d think the aforementioned were Gandhi level peaceniks.
That’s not to say Trump isn’t a but people who support Hillary and others just because they oppose Trump are hypocrites.
I am fairly left wing and cannot stand the vituperative warmongering witch. I know many who feel the same, perhaps your statement should read 'some of the left...?'That’s not to say Trump isn’t a
but people who support Hillary and others just because they oppose Trump are hypocrites.hidetheelephants said:
smn159 said:
hidetheelephants said:
smn159 said:
Lotobear said:
...as yet unproven Ruskie interference in UK politics....mmmmm
If only there were some sort of report available to clarify thiswiki said:
Purdah (/?p??rd?/) is the pre-election period in the United Kingdom, specifically the time between the announcement of an election and the formation of the new elected government. It affects civil servants, who must be politically impartial,[1] preventing central and local government from making announcements about any new or controversial government initiatives (such as modernisation initiatives or administrative and legislative changes) that could be seen to be advantageous to any candidates or parties in the forthcoming election. Purdah does not apply to candidates for political office. Where a court determines that actual advantage has been given to a candidate, this may amount to a breach of Section 2 of the Local Government Act 1986.
gregs656 said:
Countdown said:
They chose the most sensible candidate they had. Bernie was basically a Jewish Jeremy Corbyn
Most of the policies that Bernie advocates for are things we take for granted in the UK. I think his politics would be quite unremarkable here.The Corbyn comparisons aren’t accurate imo.
BlackLabel said:
gregs656 said:
Countdown said:
They chose the most sensible candidate they had. Bernie was basically a Jewish Jeremy Corbyn
Most of the policies that Bernie advocates for are things we take for granted in the UK. I think his politics would be quite unremarkable here.The Corbyn comparisons aren’t accurate imo.
Both have their hardcore acolytes but both are considered unelectable by the majority of the electorate. The difference is that the Dems managed to stop him being their nominated candidate, whereas Labour weren't competent enough to do the same with JC.
I don’t suppose any of the BBC journalists asked Hillary any questions about if she had any self respect after Bills relationship with Monica Lewinsky (and if she knew of any other relationships Bill had with interns, because that was the one where he was caught out). Or even Bills relationship with Jeffery Epstine?
Thought not.
Thought not.
freakybacon said:
I don’t suppose any of the BBC journalists asked Hillary any questions about if she had any self respect after Bills relationship with Monica Lewinsky (and if she knew of any other relationships Bill had with interns, because that was the one where he was caught out).
Thought not.
Might come across as a bit odd asking about something presumably very sensitive and personally painful that happened well over 20 years ago when it has no relevance to anything going on now?Thought not.
freakybacon said:
or even Bills relationship with Jeffery Epstine?
Jeffrey Epstein?Perhaps they would wish to ask Bill that?
Countdown said:
It's all relative. Sanders is viewed as a Commie in the US, pretty much in the same way that JC is seen as a Communist in the UK. Bernie is (or at least was) a big fan of both Cuba and Russia, again not a million miles away from JC's current position..
Both have their hardcore acolytes but both are considered unelectable by the majority of the electorate. The difference is that the Dems managed to stop him being their nominated candidate, whereas Labour weren't competent enough to do the same with JC.
Actually the things Sanders wants to implement are largely popular ideas with the electorate in the US, and it was a travesty that he didn’t get the nomination in my opinion. I think he would have had a much better chance at beating Trump. Both have their hardcore acolytes but both are considered unelectable by the majority of the electorate. The difference is that the Dems managed to stop him being their nominated candidate, whereas Labour weren't competent enough to do the same with JC.
Also, while it is kind of relative Saunders is absolutely not a Jewish Jeremy Corbyn. Sanders probably has more in common with BJ than Corbyn.
RobDickinson said:
Bernie just wants what most of Europe has had for a long time. Universal healthcare, education and living wages.
And maternity leave... Also, if the argument is that Bernie and Corbyn are the same because Corbyn is unelectable and has radical policies then you could just as easily say Trump is the American Corbyn.
In many ways the comparison is more similar, both have hijacked their parties for their own ends and have either purged or forced the resignation of the more moderate elements. Indeed trump is happy to spend money and is quite protectionist.
Edited by gregs656 on Wednesday 13th November 01:12
smn159 said:
I don't think that you fully understand the 'basic stuff' do you.
Do you disagree with the concept of purdah? Did the government delay for political reasons after the security services had declared it ready for public consumption with the equivalent of ' the dog ate my homework'? Yes, but as soon as the election was declared they aren't allowed to release st like this.Err.... https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10548935/hillary-cli...
Are we sure Bill hasn't bumped her off and replaced her?
Are we sure Bill hasn't bumped her off and replaced her?
vaud said:
A Democrat friend said the Dems have no chance as they can't stop squabbling and rally around a moderate candidate.
He thinks Michelle Obama is their best bet, but maybe not this cycle. Risk for America is a dynasty of Trumps.
At which point the Dems will have only themselves to blame. Not only because of their squabbling over which loser to choose, but due to ineptitude in continuously attacking Trump in the way they have. It clearly worked so well the first time around it must work again now. He thinks Michelle Obama is their best bet, but maybe not this cycle. Risk for America is a dynasty of Trumps.
Add in the typical Democrat sanctimony and self-righteousness - things can only get better if they ever stop and try a spot of honest self-reflection. It's unlikely to happen though, they can't possibly be wrong.
As to that pic, glamour must be in the eye of the beholder. It's not meant to be unkind but it will seem that way if I say chipmunk comes to mind. Hope she's well, I wouldn't wish ill-health on anyone and HC hasn't seemed totally ok at times.
vaud said:
A Democrat friend said the Dems have no chance as they can't stop squabbling and rally around a moderate candidate.
He thinks Michelle Obama is their best bet, but maybe not this cycle. Risk for America is a dynasty of Trumps.
It was a struggle for the American Right-Wing to cope with a black president, they wouldn't be able to handle somebody who was both black AND female, for at least another generation.He thinks Michelle Obama is their best bet, but maybe not this cycle. Risk for America is a dynasty of Trumps.
Mr. White said:
Err.... https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10548935/hillary-cli...
Are we sure Bill hasn't bumped her off and replaced her?
No one has ever seen her and Martin Short in the same room together !!Are we sure Bill hasn't bumped her off and replaced her?
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