Theresa May

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hornetrider

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63,161 posts

206 months

Wednesday 14th September 2016
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Grammar schools is quite a decisive policy to introduce so soon into her tenure, I think there's a certain amount of unease on the back benches.

Also, generally speaking she's not a very good orator, she appears to stumble over her words at PMQs pretty consistently. She doesn't sound convincing to me.

Thought she made a decent enough HS but come to think of it I don't remember much in the way of high profile activity.

I'm a bit underwhelmed.

rohrl

8,738 posts

146 months

Wednesday 14th September 2016
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Do you mean divisive rather than decisive?

Sparkyhd

1,792 posts

96 months

Wednesday 14th September 2016
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Seems grammar is essential. Or maybe just settle for Spelling Schools?

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 14th September 2016
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Unfortunate.
Interesting times though

FGB

312 posts

93 months

Wednesday 14th September 2016
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comes across as more of a "doer" than a "Trend setter".

About as good at leading as Corbyn so far !

greygoose

8,266 posts

196 months

Wednesday 14th September 2016
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I am not sure she has a vision really, as Home Sec she seemed able to let others take the blame and escape much going wrong. To be fair she doesn't really need to be great with Corbyn as leader of the opposition.

grumbledoak

31,545 posts

234 months

Wednesday 14th September 2016
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I don't give a fk how she "performs" at PMQs, to be honest. It is a stupid game between oversized children. I will judge her on what she does - or does not - achieve.

Let's see if "Brexit" means "brexit".

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 14th September 2016
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Cameron held back from utterly slating Corbyn, I don't think TM will be quite as restrained.

hornetrider

Original Poster:

63,161 posts

206 months

Wednesday 14th September 2016
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rohrl said:
Do you mean divisive rather than decisive?
I did... Stupid phone

deckster

9,630 posts

256 months

Wednesday 14th September 2016
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greygoose said:
I am not sure she has a vision really
Thank fk for that. I want my governments to do the important stuff - build roads, educate my children, put me back together when I get broken. That kind of thing. I get very nervous when they start talking about 'vision', 'ambition' or (god forbid) 'principles'. A good government is a good administrator, nothing more and nothing less. Leave the visionary stuff to those more suited.

JawKnee

1,140 posts

98 months

Wednesday 14th September 2016
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Agree with OP. Plus her record as HS left a lot to be desired. Missing targets, divisive vans and pissing off the Police are not things she can be proud of.

She hasn't got a huge amount of time (in terms of passing new laws through parliament) until election campaigning begins for 2020 so she has to get cracking on the controversial stuff she wants to push through. Runs the risk of dividing her party, and that's before you even consider the Brexit negotiation ststorm which is coming.

V6Pushfit said:
Cameron held back from utterly slating Corbyn, I don't think TM will be quite as restrained.
Judging by her recent performances, I don't think she is capable even if she tried.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 14th September 2016
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I think you'll find she is.
He's a sitting duck.

Hosenbugler

1,854 posts

103 months

Wednesday 14th September 2016
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grumbledoak said:
I don't give a fk how she "performs" at PMQs, to be honest. It is a stupid game between oversized children. I will judge her on what she does - or does not - achieve.

Let's see if "Brexit" means "brexit".
Entirely agree. How she faces up to idiots who quote "experts called John" is irrelevant, its what she actually does that counts.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

30,259 posts

236 months

Wednesday 14th September 2016
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Hosenbugler said:
grumbledoak said:
I don't give a fk how she "performs" at PMQs, to be honest. It is a stupid game between oversized children. I will judge her on what she does - or does not - achieve.

Let's see if "Brexit" means "brexit".
Entirely agree. How she faces up to idiots who quote "experts called John" is irrelevant, its what she actually does that counts.
So far appointed a foreign secretary that made the world laugh...and let it be known that we don't want to cosy up to the world's fastest economy.

Doesn't bode well does it?

glazbagun

14,280 posts

198 months

Wednesday 14th September 2016
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It's going to be our version of Trump vs Hillary.

The grammar school thing annoys me a bit as it wasn't in any party manifesto at the time of the election. The Tories were voted in on a manifesto of promises of varying likelihood, but she's come in halfway through ALA Brown and now decided that we really need grammar schools- isn't her job still to deliver the 2015 manifesto as well as she can?

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

30,259 posts

236 months

Wednesday 14th September 2016
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glazbagun said:
It's going to be our version of Trump vs Hillary.

The grammar school thing annoys me a bit as it wasn't in any party manifesto at the time of the election. The Tories were voted in on a manifesto of promises of varying likelihood, but she's come in halfway through ALA Brown and now decided that we really need grammar schools- isn't her job still to deliver the 2015 manifesto as well as she can?
I think that etch-a-sketch has been shaken

PositronicRay

27,041 posts

184 months

Wednesday 14th September 2016
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I like her, as has been said a thinker and a doer, rather than seeking popularity. Doesn't take st, oh and doesn't blame her phone. wink

dbdb

4,326 posts

174 months

Wednesday 14th September 2016
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Brexit poses such a difficult and complex and overwhelming problem to Theresa May's Government that it is very difficult indeed for her to get it right. The Referendum vote was too close - a huge number of people will be very unhappy whatever the result.

A 'hard' Brexit seems inevitable to me at the moment. If this causes damage to the economy it could prove fatal for her as public opinion shifts behind wanting to stay in the EU - just as her government has taken the country out. If she delivers a 'soft' Brexit, then the right of her party will not forgive her. It seems to me she cannot win this either way.

Theresa May seems to have had a easy time of things in the press so far. That may well not last, especially if the Brexit negotiations go badly. Gordon Brown seemed like he could do no wrong to the media in his first few months in office. The same thing could happen to Theresa May.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,402 posts

151 months

Wednesday 14th September 2016
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He stance on faith schools is a red flag. Rarely should you trust religious politicians, and never should you trust religious politicians who can't leave it at home.


JawKnee

1,140 posts

98 months

Wednesday 14th September 2016
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V6Pushfit said:
I think you'll find she is.
He's a sitting duck.
Yet to see any evidence she can. Today was a case in point. She couldn't handle the questions so kept repeating her original answer before desperately and awkwardly trying to change the subject to employment figures. It was even worse than last week but not dissimilar from her tact while Home Secretary. Only then it went more unnoticed.

The highlight was when she asked JC to "stop casting his mind back to the 1950s". Comedy gold. She shot herself in the foot with that one and left several Tory back benchers squirming.