The moon doesn't cause ocean tides, claims UKIP MP Carswell

[rohrl]

UKIP MP Douglas Carswell has become embroiled in a bizarre argument with scientists over whether the moon or sun causes ocean tides. Contrary to the accepted wisdom that it is the moon which causes tides Carswell insists that the sun is responsible.

http://uk.businessinsider.com/ukip-douglas-carswel...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/doug...

The sun does have a small effect on tides but, contrary to Carswell's claims, the moon is in fact the major driver behind the tidal motion of the oceans, as everyone except him knew already.

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ash73 said:

He should join the climate thread he'd feel right at home.

Strangely enough, Douglas Carswell is indeed a climate change sceptic.

[PositronicRay]

He's a bit of a flat earther, I'm quite surprised he believes in tides.

[Eric Mc]

My mum always preferred Omo.

[PositronicRay]

Eric Mc said:

My mum always preferred Omo.

Does she put it in the front window.

[Eric Mc]

Sadly, she's no longer with us - but she had shifted her allegiance to Ariel in the intervening decades.

[Pesty]

Reminds me of this

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v7XXVLKWd3Q

[Magog]

He's a politician, everything they say and do is designed to appease The Sun.

Why should he assume it is any different for the oceans.

[vetrof]

Pesty said:

Reminds me of this

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v7XXVLKWd3Q

Without even looking, that has to be Bill O'Reilly.

[Biker 1]

I always thought Neptune had something to do with tides. Isn't the Earth flat & the moon made out of cheese?
I saw some geese fly over the house earlier - it was a sign, an omen; I'm sure we're all doomed....

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vetrof said:

Pesty said:

Reminds me of this

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v7XXVLKWd3Q

Without even looking, that has to be Bill O'Reilly.

Nope, this is the Bill O'Reilly "Tides Go In, Tides Go Out" video -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzkRHFl2ppw

[don4l]

Oh... this is a contentious subject.

If it was simply the gratitational effect of the moon, then high tides would only occur on the side facing the moon.

The Earth and moon orbit as a bound pair. The centre of rotation is beneath the Earth's surface. The resulting wobble means that centrifugal forces chuck the water out on both sides.

[Pesty]

rohrl said:

vetrof said:

Pesty said:

Reminds me of this

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v7XXVLKWd3Q

Without even looking, that has to be Bill O'Reilly.

Nope, this is the Bill O'Reilly "Tides Go In, Tides Go Out" video -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzkRHFl2ppw

Never seen that

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don4l said:

Oh... this is a contentious subject.

If it was simply the gratitational effect of the moon, then high tides would only occur on the side facing the moon.

The Earth and moon orbit as a bound pair. The centre of rotation is beneath the Earth's surface. The resulting wobble means that centrifugal forces chuck the water out on both sides.

It really isn't a contentious subject at all. It has been well understood for hundreds of years. The moon causes the tides and the interaction of the sun's gravitational attraction is what causes neap tides at quadrature and spring tides at syzygy.

[powerstroke]

I would guess Nigel said it was the moon that caused the tides , so our Dugie had to take the opposite view...

[nammynake]

I notice the Independent article has slipped in a video of climate expert Brian Cox presenting evidence of man-made climate change. Presumably to plant the notion that challenging the evidence for climate change is as ridiculous tides being caused by the Sun.

[chow pan toon]

What a dumbass, if tides were caused by the sun they'd be made of steam not water.

[Impasse]

chow pan toon said:

What a dumbass, if tides were caused by the sun they'd be made of steam not water.

This is true. There'd also be a low tide on cloudy days.

[PositronicRay]

Enough of these experts, people are fed up of experts, and should make their own minds up.

[don4l]

rohrl said:

don4l said:

Oh... this is a contentious subject.

If it was simply the gratitational effect of the moon, then high tides would only occur on the side facing the moon.

The Earth and moon orbit as a bound pair. The centre of rotation is beneath the Earth's surface. The resulting wobble means that centrifugal forces chuck the water out on both sides.

It really isn't a contentious subject at all. It has been well understood for hundreds of years. The moon causes the tides and the interaction of the sun's gravitational attraction is what causes neap tides at quadrature and spring tides at syzygy.

In what way do you think that the moon causes the tides?