The moon doesn't cause ocean tides, claims UKIP MP Carswell

[don4l]

Efbe said:

s2art said:

slybynight said:

Q: Why are there high tides on opposite sides of the planet?
A: You are ok with the idea that the moon is trying to pull the water away from the planets surface that is closest to it right? Now imagine that it is also trying to pull the planet away from the water on the far side at the same time.

Correct.

nicely succinctly explained as well

Unfortunately, it makes no sense at all.

On the one hand, it is claimed that the water is being pulled off the Earth. On the other hand, it is being claimed that the moon is pulling the Earth away from the water.

Both options ignore the fact that the Earth has far more gravity than the moon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barycenter
https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/restles3.html

[AW111]

Oceanic said:

Are we really having this conversation FFS ???

You've just got the hump because the moon's out .
You will be feeling flat again in 6 hours time.

[Eric Mc]

Efbe said:

Eric Mc, this is complete and utter bks.

People are not sick of experts. Maybe sick of being told which way to feel, but not expertise.

Do you hear...
Oh balls to you experts, I don't believe these things are falling when I drop them, I don't believe these computers don't work by magic, I don't believe I can fly in a plane, drive cars etc etc.

Were you taught in school to understand what was meant when a word was placed inside inverted commas?

[Eric Mc]

don4l said:

Unfortunately, it makes no sense at all.

On the one hand, it is claimed that the water is being pulled off the Earth. On the other hand, it is being claimed that the moon is pulling the Earth away from the water.

Both options ignore the fact that the Earth has far more gravity than the moon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barycenter
https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/restles3.html

No they don't. The earth does exactly the same to the moon - only more so - precisely BECAUSE the earth is a larger body than the moon and therefore exerts a stronger gravitational pull on the moon.

[s2art]

don4l said:

Unfortunately, it makes no sense at all.

On the one hand, it is claimed that the water is being pulled off the Earth. On the other hand, it is being claimed that the moon is pulling the Earth away from the water.

Both options ignore the fact that the Earth has far more gravity than the moon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barycenter
https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/restles3.html

You really, really dont understand. Newton figured all this out hundreds of years ago. Find a physics textbook and read up on the subject.

[anonymous-user]

don4l said:

Efbe said:

s2art said:

slybynight said:

Q: Why are there high tides on opposite sides of the planet?
A: You are ok with the idea that the moon is trying to pull the water away from the planets surface that is closest to it right? Now imagine that it is also trying to pull the planet away from the water on the far side at the same time.

Correct.

nicely succinctly explained as well

Unfortunately, it makes no sense at all.

On the one hand, it is claimed that the water is being pulled off the Earth. On the other hand, it is being claimed that the moon is pulling the Earth away from the water.

Both options ignore the fact that the Earth has far more gravity than the moon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barycenter
https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/restles3.html

You've stumbled onto the reason that the Moon doesn't suck the oceans off the surface of the Earth. Well done.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

s2art said:

You really, really dont understand. Newton figured all this out hundreds of years ago. Find a physics textbook and read up on the subject.

It's unreal. People are actually arguing about something that was proved beyond all doubt several hundred fking years ago!!!!

Brian Cox explains it here in a way that my cat could grasp.

Ffs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGKgKayuC2M

[chow pan toon]

don4l said:

Efbe said:

s2art said:

slybynight said:

Q: Why are there high tides on opposite sides of the planet?
A: You are ok with the idea that the moon is trying to pull the water away from the planets surface that is closest to it right? Now imagine that it is also trying to pull the planet away from the water on the far side at the same time.

Correct.

nicely succinctly explained as well

Unfortunately, it makes no sense at all.

On the one hand, it is claimed that the water is being pulled off the Earth. On the other hand, it is being claimed that the moon is pulling the Earth away from the water.

Both options ignore the fact that the Earth has far more gravity than the moon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barycenter
https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/restles3.html

And the sun has more gravity than both so logically it must be responsible for the tides

[TwigtheWonderkid]

chow pan toon said:

And the sun has more gravity than both so logically it must be responsible for the tides

Using that logic, why stop at the Sun. The sun is tiny compared to many stars out there, so why aren't they responsible for the tides?

Could it be that the gravitational pull exerted by their mass is negated by their distance.

[johnxjsc1985]

Big moon big tides little moon little tides there is a clue there somewhere.

[Impasse]

johnxjsc1985 said:

Big moon big tides little moon little tides there is a clue there somewhere.

Isn't that some sort of dance move from the nineties?

[Alpinestars]

don4l said:

Efbe said:

s2art said:

slybynight said:

Q: Why are there high tides on opposite sides of the planet?
A: You are ok with the idea that the moon is trying to pull the water away from the planets surface that is closest to it right? Now imagine that it is also trying to pull the planet away from the water on the far side at the same time.

Correct.

nicely succinctly explained as well

Unfortunately, it makes no sense at all.

On the one hand, it is claimed that the water is being pulled off the Earth. On the other hand, it is being claimed that the moon is pulling the Earth away from the water.

Both options ignore the fact that the Earth has far more gravity than the moon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barycenter
https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/restles3.html

Correct. And the Earth is flat.

[anonymous-user]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

chow pan toon said:

And the sun has more gravity than both so logically it must be responsible for the tides

Using that logic, why stop at the Sun. The sun is tiny compared to many stars out there, so why aren't they responsible for the tides?

Could it be that the gravitational pull exerted by their mass is negated by their distance.

Wait.

Are you saying the surface of the sun has tides caused by other suns?

[chow pan toon]

Greg66 said:

TwigtheWonderkid said:

chow pan toon said:

And the sun has more gravity than both so logically it must be responsible for the tides

Using that logic, why stop at the Sun. The sun is tiny compared to many stars out there, so why aren't they responsible for the tides?

Could it be that the gravitational pull exerted by their mass is negated by their distance.

Wait.

Are you saying the surface of the sun has tides caused by other suns?

That is where seasons come from. It is hotter in the summer which corresponds to a high tide on the sun, in the winter there is a low tide so it gets colder.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

chow pan toon said:

hat is where seasons come from. It is hotter in the summer which corresponds to a high tide on the sun, in the winter there is a low tide so it gets colder.

[anonymous-user]

Wait, I'm confused. What's more likely; an economist getting something right or us all being ripped off the surface of the earth and pulled into the sun, or moon? Dangerous times!

[Disastrous]

Let's hope that in a #BrexitBritain we will be able to set our own lunitidal intervals, unencumbered by overpaid Eurocrtas from Brussels dictating when and how the laws of physics should apply to us!

[anonymous-user]

It's becoming easier to see how primitive man thought that when all the planets in the solar system lined up, it would be the end of the world.

It's a big fking surprise though to find out how long some of those primitive men have survived!

[PositronicRay]

Disastrous said:

Let's hope that in a #BrexitBritain we will be able to set our own lunitidal intervals, unencumbered by overpaid Eurocrtas from Brussels dictating when and how the laws of physics should apply to us!

Sounds good to me.

[Halb]

The O'reilly video is very good.