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What he did may have been wrong, but 5 f
king years!?
His life is basically ruined.
People get away with murder for less.
What he did may have been wrong, but 5 f
king years!? His life is basically ruined.
People get away with murder for less.
98elise said:
The Spruce goose said:
tasers are nasty things so can't see the issue.
So are kinves but what you intend to do with one is the important bit. I thought the "hang 'em high" collective on PH wanted to see stiffer sentencing. Or is that just for car vandals and burglars?
98elise said:
So are knives but what you intend to do with one is the important bit.
stun guns are classed as firearms thou, didn't think that needs explaining.not sure anyone has read the story, but the harsh sentence due to using around kids.
Edited by The Spruce goose on Sunday 25th September 15:10
Bit of a strange thing to buy as a "joke" not least because of how he got it back into the UK.
If you compare it to the sentences people get for causing people real physical harm perhaps it seems unfair, but do you want one law for when it's a "good bloke" and another law then it's Wayne off the council estate who everyone knows is a bit of a wrong'un?
If you compare it to the sentences people get for causing people real physical harm perhaps it seems unfair, but do you want one law for when it's a "good bloke" and another law then it's Wayne off the council estate who everyone knows is a bit of a wrong'un?
I was expecting this response, it's stupidity on his part no doubt, but an extremely heavy fine would he more the sufficient. A car driven at 100mph could be considered a lethal weapon could it not?
So should a stun gun be put in the same category as an ak47?
If I was a relative/friend of the man, I'd be fuming at the same time heartbroken at the sentence.
So should a stun gun be put in the same category as an ak47?
If I was a relative/friend of the man, I'd be fuming at the same time heartbroken at the sentence.
The Spruce goose said:
stun guns are classed as firearms thou, didn't think that needs explaining.
not sure anyone has read the story, but the harsh sentence due to using around kids.
It is classed as an absolute offense. Look it up.not sure anyone has read the story, but the harsh sentence due to using around kids.
Edited by The Spruce goose on Sunday 25th September 15:10
Eric Mc said:
I presume he was "stunned" by the severity of the sentence.
ETA: Having read the link I'm with the OP on this one. The man is guilty of being a prat, nothing more. Anybody with malice intent would not be (a) using it on themselves and (b) putting it on YT.
He should have been tasered by the professionals and then sent on his way.
Edited by Countdown on Sunday 25th September 16:15
battered said:
98elise said:
The Spruce goose said:
tasers are nasty things so can't see the issue.
So are kinves but what you intend to do with one is the important bit. I thought the "hang 'em high" collective on PH wanted to see stiffer sentencing. Or is that just for car vandals and burglars?
boxxob said:
matching this against crimes which have received the same or less sentence is a sad exercise. It makes no sense and shows that courts don't seem to care to distinguish between actual nasty, scum who cause irreparable damage to victims and their families (and usually as part of long-standing habitual behaviour) and what is, essentially, a benign act of stupidity.
The judiciary are bound by sentencing guidelines. Part of being 'tough on gun crime' meant that people in possessions of 'guns' receive a 5-year minimum sentence unless there are exceptional circumstances.
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