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boxxob said:
the exceptional circumstances seem to be the stupidity ...
Nothing more needed I suspect.Also, you don't get less for murder.
However...I am a bit more inclined to think an offer of a massive fine and community service (along with a criminal record) might have been more appropriate. At least that costs the rest of us less.
Reminded me of this same offence ( actually thus is worse) why such disparity ? Also didn't a member of so solid crew get caught with a real hand gun in a night club and got let off Scot free saying he found it.
TRICK or treat children fled screaming when a masked Halloween prankster opened his door and activated a stun gun, a court heard.
Bradford Crown Court was yesterday shown a video of Faisal Hussain pulling on a balaclava, going to his door and pointing the weapon towards the frightened youngsters.
Hussain was sentenced to a 12-month community order and ordered to carry out 180 hours of unpaid community work.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/1455927...Masked_prankster_with_stun_gun_sends__terrifiedtrick_or_treaters_fleeing/?ref=mr&lp=7
TRICK or treat children fled screaming when a masked Halloween prankster opened his door and activated a stun gun, a court heard.
Bradford Crown Court was yesterday shown a video of Faisal Hussain pulling on a balaclava, going to his door and pointing the weapon towards the frightened youngsters.
Hussain was sentenced to a 12-month community order and ordered to carry out 180 hours of unpaid community work.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/1455927...Masked_prankster_with_stun_gun_sends__terrifiedtrick_or_treaters_fleeing/?ref=mr&lp=7
Evanivitch said:
skyrover said:
UK law also classes pepper spray as a weapon. Ergo 5 years in jail.
UK law actually qualifies anything as a weapon if you could or intend to use it. Gun, knife, rolled up newspaper, Biro...http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1968/27/sectio...
(see (1)(b))
Normally most prohibited weapons trigger a mandatory minimum 5 year's sentencing, but 5(1)(b) weapons aren't included BUT being a disguised weapon (5(1)(A(a)) meant that it did! If he brought back a normal one he might have got away with a suspended sentence, or perhaps a few months at worst.
Ref: http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/l_to_o/mandatory_and_m...
Personally, I didn't know they were classed as a firearm but that's because I'd never dream of owning or even being in possession of one. If asked to guess before reading of this case I'd have said that having one would probably get you a lengthy prison sentence - and that's without knowing the law on this subject in any way. It's not exactly difficult to work out.
The sentence does seem harsh but was on earth was he thinking of? As others have said, you have to wonder what his true intentions were, although the judge has said there was nothing sinister so perhaps not.
Either way, a salutory lesson in not dicking about with stuff like this.
The sentence does seem harsh but was on earth was he thinking of? As others have said, you have to wonder what his true intentions were, although the judge has said there was nothing sinister so perhaps not.
Either way, a salutory lesson in not dicking about with stuff like this.
boxxob said:
La Liga said:
he judiciary are bound by sentencing guidelines.
Part of being 'tough on gun crime' meant that people in possessions of 'guns' receive a 5-year minimum sentence unless there are exceptional circumstances.
the exceptional circumstances seem to be the stupidity and failure of the system. When these guidelines are drafted, why don't the apparently expert and intelligent people involved do the simple modelling and scenario creation to ensure that the result meets the sort of justice and protection that the public will readily expect, especially in comparison to other crimes? Part of being 'tough on gun crime' meant that people in possessions of 'guns' receive a 5-year minimum sentence unless there are exceptional circumstances.
zarjaz1991 said:
Personally, I didn't know they were classed as a firearm but that's because I'd never dream of owning or even being in possession of one. If asked to guess before reading of this case I'd have said that having one would probably get you a lengthy prison sentence - and that's without knowing the law on this subject in any way. It's not exactly difficult to work out.
The sentence does seem harsh but was on earth was he thinking of? As others have said, you have to wonder what his true intentions were, although the judge has said there was nothing sinister so perhaps not.
Either way, a salutory lesson in not dicking about with stuff like this.
Quite, why would anybody spend good money buying one ?The sentence does seem harsh but was on earth was he thinking of? As others have said, you have to wonder what his true intentions were, although the judge has said there was nothing sinister so perhaps not.
Either way, a salutory lesson in not dicking about with stuff like this.
If we want to evidence 'Tough on crime' then we need deterrents - this should be a good one.
He was daft enough to use it on himself and post the results on youtube (really what a plank).
Maybe he's daft enough to try it on a mate for a laugh or start carrying it around for self defense. Tazers can be lethal, I'm not sure if a shonky one disguised as a mobile phone is as "safe" as a Police one either.
The Judge was right.
I don't think this case was harsh but I do feel other crimes have far too low sentences.
Maybe he's daft enough to try it on a mate for a laugh or start carrying it around for self defense. Tazers can be lethal, I'm not sure if a shonky one disguised as a mobile phone is as "safe" as a Police one either.
The Judge was right.
I don't think this case was harsh but I do feel other crimes have far too low sentences.
andym1603 said:
No sympathy here. A stun gun/taser is classed as a firearm and as such is a prohibited weapon. Has he been living in a cave to think it was okay to keep this? Says a lot about airport security not picking this up.
These things, as well as 'torch' tazers, knuckle dusters, extending 'police' batons, crossbows, etc, etc, are on sale at every street corner in Bulgaria's Sunny Beach. At the nearest airport, Burgas, the security area has a clear bin for impounded items. It's always full of these seized weapons.
I'm sure the security staff have a deal with the Sunny Beach sellers, and each item's been sold dozens of times.
hora said:
Why would you buy a Taser device for a laugh? He's know he's have to smuggle it back through.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJgQzmYOAzMEdited by skyrover on Monday 26th September 07:46
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