Deutsche Bank - They think its all over.....
Discussion
Pachydermus said:
instead of everyone calling the OP an idiot wouldn't it be better to explain why it's wrong (I realise at least 1 person has had the decency to do this) so all us non-experts can learn something too?
That would be nice, experts sharing their knowledge and explaining things in an inclusive way rather than just trying to ridicule people in luxurious displays of self-aggrandisement. Other sub forums are full of experts freely passing on their knowledge and experience, making them very pleasant places to visit.
el stovey said:
TBF, I don't think it's actually his fault, he's just completely lacking in empathy.
Lack of empathy. Again? You said the same thing yesterday. And yet apparently "we're" the 'automatons regurgitating the same old dogma.'. It's a valid question; if the OP is in finance why is he parroting the gross notional derivative exposure? It's like a doctor telling you the number of atoms of illness you have. Aaaanyway... in the unlikely event it comes to it, it will be very interesting to see if the EU is able to force haircuts on ze Germans; talk about an existential threat to the EU.
el stovey said:
I don't mean to insult you but seriously you do end up arguing with someone on most threads you seem to appear on and calling them idiots. You should probably get yourself checked out. Maybe you're completely different in real life? It's obviously not just me that's noticed it though,
Didn't you ask if he had autism a few weeks ago? I appreciate you don't mean to insult as you don't come across as that kind of person but still.....FWIW off the NP&E and Finance Forums, in areas where he does not have a core competence, Sidicks does ask for help from others and tends to be very appreciative of any advice - holidays, health etc.
sidicks said:
el stovey said:
Other sub forums are full of experts freely passing on their knowledge and experience, making them very pleasant places to visit.
As explained, other sub forums benefit from an absence of people trying to discuss topics they know nothing about...Presumably there are forums about banking or pensions where experts get together for more in depth, high brow discussion. This is just part of a car forum at the end of the day. You can't expect it to be full of other banking and pensions experts.
boxxob said:
but wouldn't you have to know enough about all of those other topics to know that these people know nothing about them? 
Hence, my point about you not fearing imposter syndrome.
Normally there are enough consistent responses by those who have developed a reputation as experts, to be able to identify someone who doesn't really know what they are talking about!Hence, my point about you not fearing imposter syndrome.
boxxob said:
You already know that everyone at your workplace is wrong about what they know.
I said no such thing.el stovey said:
I don't think so, loads of subdorums have people explaining stuff to others.
As I said.el stovey said:
You're one of the experts in this forum and you tend to be insulting people. Why not just explain why they are wrong with a little background information for the rest of us, like you're speaking to non experts.
As explained previously - genuine questions receive friendly and helpful answers, aggressive questions receive aggressive responses (particularly where people are seemingly determined to have an ill-informed rant, rather than trying to add value. That seems reasonable.el stovey said:
Presumably there are forums about banking or pensions where experts get together for more in depth, high brow discussion. This is just part of a car forum at the end of the day. You can't expect it to be full of other banking and pensions experts.
I certainly don't. The point is that those non-experts should recognise they are such, just as when I ask for help on other forums, I don't pretend I know more than those providing the help...To avoid further interrupting the thread, let's agree that I'll take on board your comments, maybe you can take on board mine too?!
Four Litre said:
AyBee said:
Four Litre said:
Pleased to meet to too Zod. You appear to either got out of bed the wrong side today or are a complete and utter cock. Judging by your posting, I can only assume the latter.
Unless your the chairman of DB, why the need to behave like an utter bell-end? Im guessing small guy with a keyboard syndrome?
Zod asked a pretty reasonable question IMO, I'm not sure why you've taken such a hostile approach to responding. It's perfectly reasonable to ask whether the OP actually understands the implications of what they're posting, or whether they're just forwarding on some sentences which sound scary...Unless your the chairman of DB, why the need to behave like an utter bell-end? Im guessing small guy with a keyboard syndrome?
Do I know what Im talking about? I like to think so as I have worked in finance for all my career, which is 25+ years and as a direct result of the 2008 crash am working on the separation of UK Retail and Investment banks. So as I say, I like to think I have a bit of background, not that it needs to be called into question when discussing a news article.
Shame PH has ended up this way...
AyBee said:
Four Litre said:
AyBee said:
Four Litre said:
Pleased to meet to too Zod. You appear to either got out of bed the wrong side today or are a complete and utter cock. Judging by your posting, I can only assume the latter.
Unless your the chairman of DB, why the need to behave like an utter bell-end? Im guessing small guy with a keyboard syndrome?
Zod asked a pretty reasonable question IMO, I'm not sure why you've taken such a hostile approach to responding. It's perfectly reasonable to ask whether the OP actually understands the implications of what they're posting, or whether they're just forwarding on some sentences which sound scary...Unless your the chairman of DB, why the need to behave like an utter bell-end? Im guessing small guy with a keyboard syndrome?
Do I know what Im talking about? I like to think so as I have worked in finance for all my career, which is 25+ years and as a direct result of the 2008 crash am working on the separation of UK Retail and Investment banks. So as I say, I like to think I have a bit of background, not that it needs to be called into question when discussing a news article.
Shame PH has ended up this way...
h and whine all day to your hearts content. el stovey said:
That would be nice, experts sharing their knowledge and explaining things in an inclusive way rather than just trying to ridicule people in luxurious displays of self-aggrandisement.
Thats because people don't normally ask which big brake conversion to buy by stating that all big brake conversions are sh1t and the people who know about them are all sociopaths and crooks. To my knowledge, in the last 8 years, despite chipping in on every single finance thread, you have never actually contributed a single thing of any interest or knowledge, just spurious nonsense and vague insults. If you want to read more finance related 'answers' from more people in finance try reading your posts before hitting submit and ponder why no one can be arsed being 'more inclusive' with you. To be perfectly honest it sounds more like you need a hug, not an explanation as to the difference between the net, collateralised derivatives exposure and the gross notional. boxxob said:
ok, ok, a point of order. No, you didn't explicitly say 'everyone'. Although, you can be candid with us, you really do think it /is/ everyone, yes?
In response to another poster I made a joke about having someone at work who thought he knew more than he actually did, and wondered if it was the OP. It was a joke, that is all. Sorry it went over your head.Zod said:
Four Litre said:
AyBee said:
Four Litre said:
Pleased to meet to too Zod. You appear to either got out of bed the wrong side today or are a complete and utter cock. Judging by your posting, I can only assume the latter.
Unless your the chairman of DB, why the need to behave like an utter bell-end? Im guessing small guy with a keyboard syndrome?
Zod asked a pretty reasonable question IMO, I'm not sure why you've taken such a hostile approach to responding. It's perfectly reasonable to ask whether the OP actually understands the implications of what they're posting, or whether they're just forwarding on some sentences which sound scary...Unless your the chairman of DB, why the need to behave like an utter bell-end? Im guessing small guy with a keyboard syndrome?
Do I know what Im talking about? I like to think so as I have worked in finance for all my career, which is 25+ years and as a direct result of the 2008 crash am working on the separation of UK Retail and Investment banks. So as I say, I like to think I have a bit of background, not that it needs to be called into question when discussing a news article.
Shame PH has ended up this way...
Four Litre said:
Zod said:
Four Litre said:
AyBee said:
Four Litre said:
Pleased to meet to too Zod. You appear to either got out of bed the wrong side today or are a complete and utter cock. Judging by your posting, I can only assume the latter.
Unless your the chairman of DB, why the need to behave like an utter bell-end? Im guessing small guy with a keyboard syndrome?
Zod asked a pretty reasonable question IMO, I'm not sure why you've taken such a hostile approach to responding. It's perfectly reasonable to ask whether the OP actually understands the implications of what they're posting, or whether they're just forwarding on some sentences which sound scary...Unless your the chairman of DB, why the need to behave like an utter bell-end? Im guessing small guy with a keyboard syndrome?
Do I know what Im talking about? I like to think so as I have worked in finance for all my career, which is 25+ years and as a direct result of the 2008 crash am working on the separation of UK Retail and Investment banks. So as I say, I like to think I have a bit of background, not that it needs to be called into question when discussing a news article.
Shame PH has ended up this way...
Derek Chevalier said:
Du1point8 said:
Are we too late to fire up some CDS against DB?
Would suspect that in 2008 to organised some of those would have made you a killing if you timed it right.
Not sure that you were able to trade this as a punter back in 2008, perhaps things have changed in the interim.Would suspect that in 2008 to organised some of those would have made you a killing if you timed it right.
I think the risk is more to equity holders than (senior) debt holders
Zod said:
Four Litre said:
Zod said:
Four Litre said:
AyBee said:
Four Litre said:
Pleased to meet to too Zod. You appear to either got out of bed the wrong side today or are a complete and utter cock. Judging by your posting, I can only assume the latter.
Unless your the chairman of DB, why the need to behave like an utter bell-end? Im guessing small guy with a keyboard syndrome?
Zod asked a pretty reasonable question IMO, I'm not sure why you've taken such a hostile approach to responding. It's perfectly reasonable to ask whether the OP actually understands the implications of what they're posting, or whether they're just forwarding on some sentences which sound scary...Unless your the chairman of DB, why the need to behave like an utter bell-end? Im guessing small guy with a keyboard syndrome?
Do I know what Im talking about? I like to think so as I have worked in finance for all my career, which is 25+ years and as a direct result of the 2008 crash am working on the separation of UK Retail and Investment banks. So as I say, I like to think I have a bit of background, not that it needs to be called into question when discussing a news article.
Shame PH has ended up this way...
Four Litre said:
Zod said:
Four Litre said:
Zod said:
Four Litre said:
AyBee said:
Four Litre said:
Pleased to meet to too Zod. You appear to either got out of bed the wrong side today or are a complete and utter cock. Judging by your posting, I can only assume the latter.
Unless your the chairman of DB, why the need to behave like an utter bell-end? Im guessing small guy with a keyboard syndrome?
Zod asked a pretty reasonable question IMO, I'm not sure why you've taken such a hostile approach to responding. It's perfectly reasonable to ask whether the OP actually understands the implications of what they're posting, or whether they're just forwarding on some sentences which sound scary...Unless your the chairman of DB, why the need to behave like an utter bell-end? Im guessing small guy with a keyboard syndrome?
Do I know what Im talking about? I like to think so as I have worked in finance for all my career, which is 25+ years and as a direct result of the 2008 crash am working on the separation of UK Retail and Investment banks. So as I say, I like to think I have a bit of background, not that it needs to be called into question when discussing a news article.
Shame PH has ended up this way...
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