Jeremy Corbyn Vol. 2

[forsure]

Europa1 said:

Does Corbyn still read questions from "Marjorie in Dorking" at PMQs, or has that quietly died?

No. To be fair, he has upped his game a bit at PMQs; still pretty hopeless though.

[jjlynn27]

BBC said:

The number of those who cancelled their direct debit payments or let their subscription lapse represents 4.6% of the party's total 528,000 membership.
Although the majority gave no reason for quitting, party sources said those who did mentioned the party's stance on the EU, which is to back Brexit.
Despite the fall, Labour's total membership is more than 300,000 higher than it was at the 2015 election.

300K higher? What? How? It's not misprint instead of 30k is it?

[Sway]

jjlynn27 said:

BBC said:

The number of those who cancelled their direct debit payments or let their subscription lapse represents 4.6% of the party's total 528,000 membership.
Although the majority gave no reason for quitting, party sources said those who did mentioned the party's stance on the EU, which is to back Brexit.
Despite the fall, Labour's total membership is more than 300,000 higher than it was at the 2015 election.

300K higher? What? How? It's not misprint instead of 30k is it?

Nope, they had a couple of hundred thousand members, then once the leadership election was called every single proper Trot in the country signed up for three quid...

The young ultra Trots are the ones leaving, they're the ones most anti-Brexit.

[Halb]

jjlynn27 said:

BBC said:

The number of those who cancelled their direct debit payments or let their subscription lapse represents 4.6% of the party's total 528,000 membership.
Although the majority gave no reason for quitting, party sources said those who did mentioned the party's stance on the EU, which is to back Brexit.
Despite the fall, Labour's total membership is more than 300,000 higher than it was at the 2015 election.

300K higher? What? How? It's not misprint instead of 30k is it?

Real numbers. Quite powerful if used correctly and in the right constituencies. Who knows if they will be though, or of they will slowly erode. I reckon a good portion of the ones who have gone possibly will be the dimble troublemakers that thought they were being funny.

[0000]

I suspect that's a good portion of the ones left.

[pingu393]

0000 said:

I suspect that's a good portion of the ones left.

So do I. Why leave? I can understand them not renewing membership, but I don't think a Corbyn-Tory would leave.

[Halb]

pingu393 said:

So do I. Why leave? I can understand them not renewing membership, but I don't think a Corbyn-Tory would leave.

Job achieved, Corbyn saved. If any have stayed, it'll be a small portion considering the numbers to begin with, to keep paying money of the wild offchance another leadership election happens, which doesn't look good for the foreseeable.

[Smollet]

Europa1 said:

Does Corbyn still read questions from "Marjorie in Dorking" at PMQs, or has that quietly died?

I thought she came from Hull. Not many Corbynistas in Dorking.

[pingu393]

Have the renewals come out yet? Has it really been a year since the £3 thing finished?

[Andy Zarse]

Camoradi said:

turbobloke said:

If I heard a local radio report correctly, Labour has leaked its own loss of membership, down 26,000 in just over six months. Not good. We need Corbyn to stay put as 'leader' for as long as possible including post-2020 to see off another disastrous Labour economic fustercluck.

It's probably the sane people giving up on Labour as a lost cause and moving to Lib Dems.

Hold on...sane and Lib Dems in the same sentence. Where's that picture?

I read it was 15,000 who had actively left since December. The actual number is probably higher since they don't count people whose membership simply isn't renewed until 6 months after it has expired. So look at this again in the summer...

Meantime, Jeremy's colleagues have plans to stop folk leaving;

"Ay know ware yer kads go ter skerl! "

[turbobloke]

Since mid-2016:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/03/l...

[mybrainhurts]

Andy Zarse said:

Camoradi said:

turbobloke said:

If I heard a local radio report correctly, Labour has leaked its own loss of membership, down 26,000 in just over six months. Not good. We need Corbyn to stay put as 'leader' for as long as possible including post-2020 to see off another disastrous Labour economic fustercluck.

It's probably the sane people giving up on Labour as a lost cause and moving to Lib Dems.

Hold on...sane and Lib Dems in the same sentence. Where's that picture?

I read it was 15,000 who had actively left since December. The actual number is probably higher since they don't count people whose membership simply isn't renewed until 6 months after it has expired. So look at this again in the summer...

Meantime, Jeremy's colleagues have plans to stop folk leaving;

"Ay know ware yer kads go ter skerl! "

Ah, yes...the Black and White Minstrels. Those were the days.

[Gargamel]

Back to policy.

Currently The UK still pays £50bn a year in interest on the total national debt, and this at a time when interest and bond rates are at an all time low.

Given Labours opposition to "austerity" and it increasing noise around spending more both on the National Health and on Social care, where is Labour economic policy for post Brexit and its strategy for dealing with the debt ?

I have to say I feel considerable happier with Phil Hammond running the show than any of the current crop of Labour Ministers.

Elections in the UK are broadly won on credibility of the future PM and Economic trust. I just cannot see why Labour are putting up with these clowns running the show.

[LordLoveLength]

Gargamel said:

where is Labour economic policy for post Brexit and its strategy for dealing with the debt?

I just cannot see why Labour are putting up with these clowns running the show.

Have they ever had an economic policy? Under Blair, they broadly followed the economic policy they inherited for their first term, with some success. Then it was borrow and spend, then deregulation of the banks when the money was running out....

What is 'Labour' other than a name with a hardcore support anyway? The tradition of supporting the working man is long gone. Control seems to lie with momentum just now, which is why they are in such a mess. Party dictates, MPs obey. Control of the party is all that matters, Corbyn is just along for the ride and would only be replaced with another hard left candidate.

[Johnnytheboy]

Gargamel said:

Given Labours opposition to "austerity" and it increasing noise around spending more both on the National Health and on Social care, where is Labour economic policy for post Brexit and its strategy for dealing with the debt ?

Tax the rich/bankers/multinational companies.

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[anonymous-user]

Johnnytheboy said:

Gargamel said:

Given Labours opposition to "austerity" and it increasing noise around spending more both on the National Health and on Social care, where is Labour economic policy for post Brexit and its strategy for dealing with the debt ?

Tax the rich/bankers/multinational companies.

(Delete as applicable)

I thought it was increase taxes for everybody except those on benefits, borrow billions to invest in PS jobs and infrastructure and then use the overall increase to bring down the debt.

Unfortunately, the plan, were it to work, would take s couple of millennia to take effect.

[williamp]

Gordon Brown had many years of financial prudence to prevent the return of "boom and bust". He told us so at many different budgets...

[Crafty_]

As Corbyn's "relaunch" is going so well, Momentum thought they'd have a go.

It seems they anre't too happy with the membership and are chucking out the very left of the left - https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/04/m...

They seem somewhat directionless and unable to tell anyone what they are really about. Reminds me of someone

[KTF]

He published his tax return to show how the opposition are all 'rich' Torres. http://jeremycorbyn.org.uk/articles/jeremy-corbyn-...

Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/jeremy-corby...

[Welshbeef]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/05/jeremy-...

Oh dear

His tax return has missed off £40k of income!!!!
That is tax evasion - it's no good saying oops I forgot this is tax evasion.