Theresa May

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JawKnee said:

Labour behind but not by an insurmountable amount. Recovarable over the next 4 years.

For once, I completely agree with you.

I do feel that Labour will probably win the next General Election.

Jeremy has great support among the general public.

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Kermit power said:

There does need to be a caveat to that, though, to say that people won't be charged when it's not their fault. After all, if a council has 50 applicants for two bedroom properties, but they only have 30 two bedroom properties and 20 three bedroom properties, it would be. Pretty unfair to penalise the people they have to put in the larger properties.

If someone is offered a right-sized property and refuse to move out of a larger one, then by all means penalise them.

I can agree with that.

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AC43 said:

So the Conservatives are calling for list of immigrants. Lists. Of immigrants.

And the BNP are having punch ups in the European Parliament.

I'm ashamed to be British.

You should do what I did.

Emmigrate.

Everybody wins!

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B'stard Child said:

Ian Geary said:

don4l said:

Jeremy has great support among the general public.

Does he though?

I love how many people are taking Don's comment as a statement - probably cos he missed a off the post

Michael Foot was the greatest leader that Labour ever had. I think that Corbyn will be even better.

If Corbyn cannot afford a decent donkey jacket for Rememberance Sunday, then I will happily buy it for him,

After all, we wouldn't want him to show disrespect, would we?

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desolate said:

don4l said:

You should do what I did.

Emmigrate.

Everybody wins!

Where did you emigrate to?

Here... the UK.

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desolate said:

don4l said:

Here... the UK.

from Hammersmith?

Keep up at the back.

I was born here. When I was about one tear old, my parents moved back to Ireland.

I was 11 years old when I discovered that I had been born in the UK. It came as a shock.

I then came here when I was 18 to look for a summer job. It's been a hell of a long summer.

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Greg66 said:

Hosenbugler said:

A number of allegedly conservative voters appearing recently trashing TM and the "far right" direction, apparently the govt is taking.

I don't know about trashing, but I'm a bit puzzled at the overall direction of travel outside the Brexit issue. On the one hand you have Amber Rudd throwing around some pretty ill thought out ideas about lists of foreigners, and on the other you have Hammond announcing a tax and spend approach and putting deficit reduction down the list of priorities. It's kind of odd, really. As if May is trying to mop up all UKIP's support and most of Labour's support all in one go, whilst at the same time holding onto her core Tory support.

There's a saying about not trying to be all things to all men. I happen to think it's good advice.

For once, I agree with you.

I was 100% impressed up until the conference. I am hearing some very confusing messages.

I thought that Hammond should be eliminating the defecit sooner. Tax receipts should be higher as a result of the weaker Pound, and they have the opportunity to reduce spending in areas like Foreign Aid.

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DavidJG said:

And so begins the attack on non-British born academics:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-37590044

Non-British researches have now been removed from a Government project. This may be badged / labelled as a 'Security' requirement, but it certainly wasn't a security requirement up until now.

It is entirely sensible that only British people should advise on British National Security.

20 years ago, this was the rule. I wonder when it got dropped?

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Jockman said:

don4l said:

I thought that Hammond should be eliminating the defecit sooner. Tax receipts should be higher as a result of the weaker Pound, and they have the opportunity to reduce spending in areas like Foreign Aid.

Income Tax receipts should be peaking soon. Nothing to do with Brexit, more a case of Osborne's 'divi' tax hike.

Fortunately, I took precautions when Brown introduced the 50% rate. I should be alright for another few years.

I think that what I did is known as "tax avoidance".

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desolate said:

don4l said:

DavidJG said:

And so begins the attack on non-British born academics:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-37590044

Non-British researches have now been removed from a Government project. This may be badged / labelled as a 'Security' requirement, but it certainly wasn't a security requirement up until now.

It is entirely sensible that only British people should advise on British National Security.

20 years ago, this was the rule. I wonder when it got dropped?

So is that project really security related?

I wonder how many non-brit have security clearance.

From the article:-
"It says the team leader has now been told only UK passport holders should be involved in talks covering national security and foreign trade talks."

I think that the real area of contention is the "national security" bit.

I suspect that there is a bit of Daily Mail style journalism going on here.

I wonder if, perhaps, the national security people share offices with the trade talks people?? It might be that simple.

Or perhaps I don't understand something about international trade talks.

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desolate said:

don4l said:

DavidJG said:

And so begins the attack on non-British born academics:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-37590044

Non-British researches have now been removed from a Government project. This may be badged / labelled as a 'Security' requirement, but it certainly wasn't a security requirement up until now.

It is entirely sensible that only British people should advise on British National Security.

20 years ago, this was the rule. I wonder when it got dropped?

So is that project really security related?

I wonder how many non-brit have security clearance.

I don't know the current rules.

I got clearance in the early 90s. Even though I was born here, and held a British passport, I know that my form got chucked in the bin. The reason that I know this is that my sponsor went apest when my clearance hadn't come through after 3 months. I received a very strange phone call one night. The person on the other end didn't introduce themselves, but asked me a bunch of questions that had been on the form.

Political correctness had just started at the time.

I had to collect an Id card from the guardhouse of a local MoD base. When I went there to collect it, the woman on the desk was a bit apprehensive. She wouldn't hand over the pass. She called the head of security (on site) and had a very cautious conversation. She wasn't getting anywhere, and eventually blurted out - "But he's Irish".

Next thing she was saying "Hello.. Hello". The person at the other end had hung up.

I was handed my pass.

Sorry about that long story. I seem to have come over all a bit Derek!

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JawKnee said:

davepoth said:

don4l said:

DavidJG said:

And so begins the attack on non-British born academics:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-37590044

Non-British researches have now been removed from a Government project. This may be badged / labelled as a 'Security' requirement, but it certainly wasn't a security requirement up until now.

It is entirely sensible that only British people should advise on British National Security.

20 years ago, this was the rule. I wonder when it got dropped?

The advice they're giving is going to be critical to the vitally important negotiations that are going to happen over the next two years, and the government need to do everything possible to make sure that the EU don't get advanced notice of our position. They didn't want pre-negotiations, after all.

Just to be clear, are you suggesting these academics are some sort of secret EU spy operatives who are secretly feeding information back to Brussels?

I'd suggest seeking medical help if you are experiencing these thoughts.

What age are you?

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Einion Yrth said:

BBC Headline said:

Brexit: LSE foreign experts 'should not advise ministers'

The key word is not "foreign" it's "LSE", and I'm tempted to agree.

Succintly put.

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Randy Winkman said:

B'stard Child said:

Randy Winkman said:

Johnnytheboy said:

Randy Winkman said:

I work for the Civil Service in a central London departmental head office and can tell you with almost complete confidence that pretty much the whole civil service voted "remain". By pretty much I mean 75%+.

To be honest that's about as surprising as finding the majority of administrative staff in the Vatican are Catholic.

But relevant to B'Stard Child's and Wobbegong's posts on page 16 about pro-remain people working on Brexit. The vast majority of the people working on the topic were remainers.

Excellent answer - now would you be so kind as to answer another question?

If the referendum was held again would it still be 75%+

Why would it have changed?

Because so many of the Remain side predictions have been shown to be false.

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ThunderGuts said:

AC43 said:

Nope. Everyone I know voted Remain are universally horrified by the start of the economic carnage

Would like your details on the 'carnage'.

So would I.

All the economic data recently has been positive.

Anyone who sees carnage in falling unemployment, rising production and increased consumer spending must be suffering from the most extreme cognitive bias.

Or maybe they really hate their country.

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AC43 said:

The leFTy is full of it

FTFY.

The FT is very good, but like the Daily Mail, you have to know how to read it.

I read both the FT and the Mail, and I get on fine with both.

I've had to restrain my wife from getting outraged by the Mail. I'm never going to get outraged because every story is designed and crafted to generate such outrage.

The FT is better, but one has to be aware that they are a bit lefty.

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cookie118 said:

don4l said:

So would I.

All the economic data recently has been positive.

Anyone who sees carnage in falling unemployment, rising production and increased consumer spending must be suffering from the most extreme cognitive bias.

Or maybe they really hate their country.

Not all the economic data has been positive.

How about a rising trade deficit despite a falling pound?

Oh I forgot-because I'm not sticking my fingers in my ears and only taking on positive news that means I 'hate my country'

Well, you do seem to be ignoring the fact that unemployment has dropped.

Consumer spending has increased.

House prices are on a steady rise.

GDP is up.

The PMI manufacturing index has risen.

The PMI services index has risen.

Car manufacturing is up.

If you can seek out and publish something negative, (when there is so much good news about) really hints that you do indeed hate your country.

Stop trying to talk down the UK.

You cannot achieve what the Treasury tried to achieve.

You cannot achieve what Mark Carney failed to achieve.

You cannot achieve what the IMF failed to achieve.

You cannot achieve what Obama failed to achieve.

The trade defecit will correct itself very quickly.

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Einion Yrth said:

turbobloke said:

Do we have the capability to build our own nuclear reactor these days? I think not.

I don't think we did the last time we built one either, was only almost a total disaster, we'd be fine.

What on Earth are AWE Aldermaston doing these days?

We used to have people who could design nuclear reactors. Why have we lost this capability?

The public are also under the impression that we still have a Navy. We don't.

There were only 88 vessels the last time that I looked. I reckon that was at least 5 years ago.

IIRC, there were 4 frigates, 4 destroyers, and two aircraft carriers. There were also one or two logistics support vessels.

Brittania doesn't rule the seas any more.

It's all a bit 1936.

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Elysium said:

don4l said:

Well, you do seem to be ignoring the fact that unemployment has dropped.

Consumer spending has increased.

House prices are on a steady rise.

GDP is up.

The PMI manufacturing index has risen.

The PMI services index has risen.

Car manufacturing is up.

If you can seek out and publish something negative, (when there is so much good news about) really hints that you do indeed hate your country.

Stop trying to talk down the UK.

You cannot achieve what the Treasury tried to achieve.

You cannot achieve what Mark Carney failed to achieve.

You cannot achieve what the IMF failed to achieve.

You cannot achieve what Obama failed to achieve.

The trade defecit will correct itself very quickly.

Jingoism and economic commentary are not related. It is simply extraordinary to argue that negative observations about the current conditions equate to a hatred of the UK.

Whilst things are hanging together the indicators are not exactly overwhelming when you factor in 0.25% interest rates, the pound at a 30 year low, the extension of QE and Govt surrendering to our structural deficit.

If you want people to rally to embrace and support Brexit then this sort of nonsense is not going to help.

There isn't a hope in Hell that you will "rally around". So, forgive me if I don't waste my time attempt to woo you.

Very early in the Brexit debate, I noticed that there were a whole bunch of people who would do anything in their power to talk their own country down.

I have not seen such positive economic indicators since the late 80's.

You manage to find just one piece of slightly negative news, and you choose to highlight it. You are trying to talk down your country.

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davepoth said:

JawKnee said:

A policy U-Turn within days of it being announced at party conference is the "slightest "? I'd say that's pretty shambolic. Acceptable for joke parties like UKIP maybe, but not the one running the country. It doesn't bode well.

But by all means carry on trying to divert attention elsewhere to cover up for her government's failings.

Edited by JawKnee on Sunday 9th October 17:21

Amazing how they caved due to pressure from the opposition without Diane Abbott having to say a word.

She probably sat on them.

I can see why people would want to see Jeremy Corbyn as PM.

Just think about how much better things would be today if Michael Foot had become PM?

All school children would qualify for a free donkey jacket.

It's the little details that makes Labour so appealing.