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caelite said:
sidicks said:
DavidJG said:
That bit in bold is a great description of the UK at present. A government that has little or no mandate, other than to 'leave', despite the exact meaning of 'leave' being unclear. A Conservative party that, during conference, expressed views that were taken straight from Nazi Germany / BNP / EDL policies (and is subsequently alienating a lot of its supporters, whilst taking new supporters from UKIP). A Labour party that is incapable of functioning as an effective opposition, and is also driving away its supporters through progressively more extreme Marxist policies.
The UK political system is starting to make many 3rd world countries look sophisticated and well organized.
Please explain...The UK political system is starting to make many 3rd world countries look sophisticated and well organized.
2. Many policies encouraging the open discrimination against various immigrant groups, just replace 'the jew', from the nazis early campaigns with 'eu national' or worse, the dreaded 'muslim', such policies include the 'crackdown' on foreign students, economic sanctions for in work immigrants and some other policies as well as a healthy dose of party doublespeak
3. She has voted in favour of every potential UK conflict since Iraq
I dont claim to be a fan of Cameron but at least his pro-business policies had merit and he was the sheer sterotype of a 'tory' which was always rather amsuing. May is FAR to Orwellian for my liking.
Greenmantle said:
I don't know what her goals are. Is she really honestly trying to get Brexit done (soft or hard) or does she want to fail so that she can blame others (judges and then parliament vote, Corbyn, Liberal Democrats) etc. Trust for these "great and good" has now disappeared for me.
John
And I think the key issue is that neither does she. At the beginning of her premiership, I thought (hoped?) that, as a well known pragmatist politician, she was playing her cards close to her chest to give herself all the room to manoeuvre she could in presenting whatever outcome she achieved in negotiating Brexit as a great result for the UK. The more I see of her in action, the more it becomes clear that she is totally and utterly out of her depth and defining policy according to what is on the front page of today's Daily MailJohn
BlackLabel said:
Quite right too. It is essential for democracy that the people have no idea what she is up to. Elysium said:
BlackLabel said:
Quite right too. It is essential for democracy that the people have no idea what she is up to. Well played Theresa.
BlackLabel said:
Leaks are the one constant in politics. The memo was a terrible idea. Of course it would be leaked, the only question is whether or not they meant it to.Team May have fallen out with Nicky Morgan over the price of the PM's trousers.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/dec/11/t...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4019322/Ni...
http://news.sky.com/story/pm-aide-and-mp-nicky-mor...
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/dec/11/t...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4019322/Ni...
http://news.sky.com/story/pm-aide-and-mp-nicky-mor...
I find the whole "her trousers cost just under a grand" thing insulting.
Whilst it's a matter for public how much the PM gets paid. £143,462. So the trousers work out at 0.6% of her wage. Hardly the crime of the century!
What she chooses to spend it on, is no ones business! Rather greatly the designer of said trousers is British so at least she's supporting British interests.
I don't have any problem with her blocking people who get snotty about her choices. It's not Politics, it's envy. It shows the complainant in very poor light. Not the sort of person that can be counted on when it gets tough
Whilst it's a matter for public how much the PM gets paid. £143,462. So the trousers work out at 0.6% of her wage. Hardly the crime of the century!
What she chooses to spend it on, is no ones business! Rather greatly the designer of said trousers is British so at least she's supporting British interests.
I don't have any problem with her blocking people who get snotty about her choices. It's not Politics, it's envy. It shows the complainant in very poor light. Not the sort of person that can be counted on when it gets tough
Rich_W said:
I don't have any problem with her blocking people who get snotty about her choices. It's not Politics, it's envy. It shows the complainant in very poor light. Not the sort of person that can be counted on when it gets tough
Or it could show May as childish and someone who wants surround herself with sycophants. PurpleMoonlight said:
Rich_W said:
I don't have any problem with her blocking people who get snotty about her choices. It's not Politics, it's envy. It shows the complainant in very poor light. Not the sort of person that can be counted on when it gets tough
Or it could show May as childish and someone who wants surround herself with sycophants. PurpleMoonlight said:
Smollet said:
Not unlike another party leader but with less power.
True, but he isn't running the country so nothing to worry about.
Must dash, nursie's calling...;)
Rich_W said:
I find the whole "her trousers cost just under a grand" thing insulting.
Whilst it's a matter for public how much the PM gets paid. £143,462. So the trousers work out at 0.6% of her wage. Hardly the crime of the century!
What she chooses to spend it on, is no ones business! Rather greatly the designer of said trousers is British so at least she's supporting British interests.
I don't have any problem with her blocking people who get snotty about her choices. It's not Politics, it's envy. It shows the complainant in very poor light. Not the sort of person that can be counted on when it gets tough
Agreed about her trousers, look pretty silly to me but that's by the by, no one seemed to mind about Cameron's saville row suits, I beg your pardon his "M&S" suitsWhilst it's a matter for public how much the PM gets paid. £143,462. So the trousers work out at 0.6% of her wage. Hardly the crime of the century!
What she chooses to spend it on, is no ones business! Rather greatly the designer of said trousers is British so at least she's supporting British interests.
I don't have any problem with her blocking people who get snotty about her choices. It's not Politics, it's envy. It shows the complainant in very poor light. Not the sort of person that can be counted on when it gets tough
Oh hang on yes they did https://www.indy100.com/article/number-10-refused-...
The paper of envy. While everyone was having a dig at chairman Corbyn for dressing like vagrant kitted out with a grant from the job centre on his way to an interview...
That it should be another woman and Tory at that Nicky Morgan (no axe to grind) is staggering. Now if it were a man commenting on a woman's appearance he'd be a misogynist. Instead Polly Tuscany Toynbee said this talk of her trous"ers is about something else, something very important. Oh yeah “There’s a special place in hell for women who don’t help each other." Madeleine Albright. That's right it's called the real world.
Edited by Northern Munkee on Sunday 11th December 17:30
O/t but amusing.
A leftie friend of mine was appalled at how much Cameron allegedly spent on handmade suits whilst poor people were visiting food banks etc etc.
I did point out to him that he designed and made expensive bespoke spectacle frames for a living.
Makes one wonder sometimes.
A leftie friend of mine was appalled at how much Cameron allegedly spent on handmade suits whilst poor people were visiting food banks etc etc.
I did point out to him that he designed and made expensive bespoke spectacle frames for a living.
Makes one wonder sometimes.
Rich_W said:
I find the whole "her trousers cost just under a grand" thing insulting.
Whilst it's a matter for public how much the PM gets paid. £143,462. So the trousers work out at 0.6% of her wage. Hardly the crime of the century!
What she chooses to spend it on, is no ones business! Rather greatly the designer of said trousers is British so at least she's supporting British interests.
I don't have any problem with her blocking people who get snotty about her choices. It's not Politics, it's envy. It shows the complainant in very poor light. Not the sort of person that can be counted on when it gets tough
AgreedWhilst it's a matter for public how much the PM gets paid. £143,462. So the trousers work out at 0.6% of her wage. Hardly the crime of the century!
What she chooses to spend it on, is no ones business! Rather greatly the designer of said trousers is British so at least she's supporting British interests.
I don't have any problem with her blocking people who get snotty about her choices. It's not Politics, it's envy. It shows the complainant in very poor light. Not the sort of person that can be counted on when it gets tough
It's a lot more honest to wear those trousers than to do a Cameron (or a Milliband) and somehow try to gloss over the fact they are rich, which itself of course shouldn't be seen as a crime but unfortunately seems to be by many. It would be a lot weirder if a career woman in a child free household, presumably earning a minimum of £3-400k between her and her investment manager husband, didn't have some items far more expensive than the average household can afford
I find the comment from Morgan inexplicable; as frivolous as spending what is 2-3 weeks wages for JAM man/woman on a pair of trousers is, it isn't half as frivolous as spending the same amount on a dress that will be worn once. As virtue signalling goes it's a massive failure, but then Morgan was good at those when in cabinet.
What to make of this? Cozying up to Trump before he starts his new job? Arms contract up for grabs soon with Israel?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38464800
http://news.sky.com/story/us-state-dept-surprised-...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38464800
http://news.sky.com/story/us-state-dept-surprised-...
Edited by glazbagun on Friday 30th December 19:30
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