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MarshPhantom said:
alfie2244 said:
MarshPhantom said:
65 million people want Brexit to happen?
What the actual f
k?
I assume you voted to remain......... we are Brexiting, leaving the EU, taking back control.......when I say we I mean me, you and every other UK citizen are now Brexiters, all 65 million of us, and the sooner those that voted remain get used to it, stop whingeing and move on the better.What the actual f
k?An excellent speech
Regardless of how much of what she states she wants, she actually gets, this will increase her popularity hugely here in the UK.
The remainrs will no doubt be going ballistic, saying that we (the UK) never voted to leave the common market etc, but of course the remainers want us to do just about enough to say that technically, we have left the EU, without in practical terms much changing. The speech will therefore polarise, but it was necessary as otherwise we stay in no mans land
I think it was very carefully calculated and makes those demanding she lay out her terms in the immediate few days after taking power look somewhat foolish now - this had the image of something measured, calculated & firm
I suspect if there was an election tomorrow, May's majority would go up massively on the back of this. I can't see what Corbyn could say that would achieve anything other than for those who already worship him.
Of course whether we get what May says she wants is an entirely different matter................
Regardless of how much of what she states she wants, she actually gets, this will increase her popularity hugely here in the UK.
The remainrs will no doubt be going ballistic, saying that we (the UK) never voted to leave the common market etc, but of course the remainers want us to do just about enough to say that technically, we have left the EU, without in practical terms much changing. The speech will therefore polarise, but it was necessary as otherwise we stay in no mans land
I think it was very carefully calculated and makes those demanding she lay out her terms in the immediate few days after taking power look somewhat foolish now - this had the image of something measured, calculated & firm
I suspect if there was an election tomorrow, May's majority would go up massively on the back of this. I can't see what Corbyn could say that would achieve anything other than for those who already worship him.
Of course whether we get what May says she wants is an entirely different matter................
Edited by jonby on Tuesday 17th January 14:14
jonby said:
An excellent speech
The leavers will no doubt be going ballistic, saying that we (the UK) never voted to leave the common market etc, but of course the leavers want us to do just about enough to say that technically, we have left the EU, without in practical terms much changing.
Not sure we were listening to the same speech. I think she was pretty clear that out means out of everything and that is exactly what most leavers voted for. The common market ceased to be years ago and turned into the common country and common government. Very happy to leave the single market if the other option is still being half in the EU.The leavers will no doubt be going ballistic, saying that we (the UK) never voted to leave the common market etc, but of course the leavers want us to do just about enough to say that technically, we have left the EU, without in practical terms much changing.
I thought Theresa May was magnificent. The sentiments and intentions for UK future was so different to the constant dripping of despondency and gloom from the malcontents who will seek to destroy whatever the outcome is, opposition for the sake of it and for their own miserable benefit. At last, we have a star. She should
call a general election tomorrow.
call a general election tomorrow.
We haven't left anything yet and she has put it out there that if we have to leave everything then so be it which is not what the EU would want it kind of negates some of their negotiating position.
My big concern is that Politicians will fk this up for both sides rather than come to a pragmatic agreement that does the least damage to trade between the UK and mainland Europe.
My big concern is that Politicians will f
k this up for both sides rather than come to a pragmatic agreement that does the least damage to trade between the UK and mainland Europe.Thorodin said:
I thought Theresa May was magnificent. The sentiments and intentions for UK future was so different to the constant dripping of despondency and gloom from the malcontents who will seek to destroy whatever the outcome is, opposition for the sake of it and for their own miserable benefit. At last, we have a star. She should
call a general election tomorrow.
Did you watch the Q&As? she couldn't get off the stage quick enough. call a general election tomorrow.
Anyone can read a speech, a speech that was mostly leaked yesterday so no great shakes there but she's far from confidence inspiring, but a star
alfie2244 said:
MarshPhantom said:
65 million people want Brexit to happen?
What the actual fk?
I assume you voted to remain......... we are Brexiting, leaving the EU, taking back control.......when I say we I mean me, you and every other UK citizen are now Brexiters, all 65 million of us, and the sooner those that voted remain get used to it, stop whingeing and move on the better.What the actual f
k?If people aren't happy with Brexit then they are perfectly entitled to say so. I suggest you stop whinging about people whinging and get used to it.
Who is it better for? Better for you? If you don't like it then stop reading about it.
I think she struck the right tone.
Now that the decision to leave is set - there is no point in messing about with all sorts of half way houses. Part of the reason markets are jittery is because of uncertainty. Anything that helps reduce uncertainty has to be correct.
She has effectively removed a bargaining chip from the EU negotiators. They were hoping the UK would want access to the Free Market similar to what a member state gets. Now that they have been told that this is not what the UK wants - they have less in the way of obstacles to throw in the road.
Now that the decision to leave is set - there is no point in messing about with all sorts of half way houses. Part of the reason markets are jittery is because of uncertainty. Anything that helps reduce uncertainty has to be correct.
She has effectively removed a bargaining chip from the EU negotiators. They were hoping the UK would want access to the Free Market similar to what a member state gets. Now that they have been told that this is not what the UK wants - they have less in the way of obstacles to throw in the road.
fatjon said:
jonby said:
An excellent speech
The leavers will no doubt be going ballistic, saying that we (the UK) never voted to leave the common market etc, but of course the leavers want us to do just about enough to say that technically, we have left the EU, without in practical terms much changing.
Not sure we were listening to the same speech. I think she was pretty clear that out means out of everything and that is exactly what most leavers voted for. The common market ceased to be years ago and turned into the common country and common government. Very happy to leave the single market if the other option is still being half in the EU.The leavers will no doubt be going ballistic, saying that we (the UK) never voted to leave the common market etc, but of course the leavers want us to do just about enough to say that technically, we have left the EU, without in practical terms much changing.
jonby said:
fatjon said:
jonby said:
An excellent speech
The leavers will no doubt be going ballistic, saying that we (the UK) never voted to leave the common market etc, but of course the leavers want us to do just about enough to say that technically, we have left the EU, without in practical terms much changing.
Not sure we were listening to the same speech. I think she was pretty clear that out means out of everything and that is exactly what most leavers voted for. The common market ceased to be years ago and turned into the common country and common government. Very happy to leave the single market if the other option is still being half in the EU.The leavers will no doubt be going ballistic, saying that we (the UK) never voted to leave the common market etc, but of course the leavers want us to do just about enough to say that technically, we have left the EU, without in practical terms much changing.
I thought someone had stolen your ID.
fatjon said:
MarshPhantom said:
65 million people want Brexit to happen?
What the actual fk?
She said "The government also has 65m people willing it to make a success of Brexit."What the actual f
k?Are we to assume you disagree with that and want it to fail?
Stunning lack of simple comprehension skills by some posters.
desolate said:
Can anyone comment on why she would make this speech now rather than wait for either the supreme court decision or for the article 50 vote?
Because the entire media pack, European leaders, UK population and probably unknown aliens hordes have been demanding that she explains what she is going to do.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff